Batdude's Tourney Discussion Thread

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Originally posted by darthgoober

Onslaught's fine. You can use both Xavier's and Magneto's feats for all I care. He'd be a pick for "overall power and versatility."

Originally posted by batdude123
Onslaught's fine. You can use both Xavier's and Magneto's feats for all I care. He'd be a pick for "overall power and versatility."
Wait are you sure? I figured he'd fall more into the "Energy Manipulator" category, since his powers was pretty much just psionic and electromagnetic. He doesn't seem more versatile than Blue Supes(who also showed control over psionic and electromagnetic energy).

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait are you sure? I figured he'd fall more into the "Energy Manipulator" category, since his powers was pretty much just psionic and electromagnetic. He doesn't seem more versatile than Blue Supes(who also showed control over psionic and electromagnetic energy).

1. Superman Blue lost all of his strength

2. Magneto's energy running through his body has him on class 100 levels in terms of strength and durability.

3. Magneto's electromagnetic powers + one of the best telepaths in the entire Marvel universe = overall power and versatility

Originally posted by batdude123
1. Superman Blue lost all of his strength

2. Magneto's energy running through his body has him on class 100 levels in terms of strength and durability.

3. Magneto's electromagnetic powers + one of the best telepaths in the entire Marvel universe = overall power and versatility


Ok. But Supes DID have the ability to amp up his strength and durability(like when he fought the Millennium Giant, or wrestled the angel).

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok. But Supes DID have the ability to amp up his strength and durability(like when he fought the Millennium Giant, or wrestled the angel).

Nope. He lost all of his super strength. He was only able to go toe to toe with a Millenium Giant because he converted energy to matter.

In a training session with Kyle, Supes even mensions all his strength is gone. Kyle was dropping thousands of tons of matter on him, but he reversified the force, and repelled Kyle's constructs via an EM field.

Originally posted by batdude123
1. Superman Blue lost all of his strength

2. Magneto's energy running through his body has him on class 100 levels in terms of strength and durability.

3. Magneto's electromagnetic powers + one of the best telepaths in the entire Marvel universe = overall power and versatility

Didn't Superman Blue one punch Majestic?

Originally posted by Validus
GL feats need to be examined on a case by case example. I don't think blanket statements are fair in their regard.

i'm just saying what I'M gonna do, mon ami. judging case by case opens up too much grey area. if i see THAT gl doing a feat, great. if not . . .

. . . . sorry charlie. keeps things nice and simple this way. otherwise we get into -- "can guy do all the things hal or kyle can?" "what about kilowogg??" and since no one has proof . . .

it was ridiculous last tournament, and if i'm judging this one (which i may be) it'll be feats by that gl alone and no ambiguity. 😬

everyone else is of course free to look at it however thye so choose (maybe both other judges WILL allow interchangeable feats . . .)

Originally posted by bigbran
Didn't Superman Blue one punch Majestic?

It never showed him doing anything.

All it showed was a picture of the building from the outside, with Majestic flying out of it.

Leo, if you ever say mon ami again, things will get ugly.

Originally posted by leonidas
i'm just saying what I'M gonna do, mon ami. judging case by case opens up too much grey area. if i see THAT gl doing a feat, great. if not . . .

. . . . sorry charlie. keeps things nice and simple this way. otherwise we get into -- "can guy do all the things hal or kyle can?" "what about kilowogg??" and since no one has proof . . .

it was ridiculous last tournament, and if i'm judging this one (which i may be) it'll be feats by that gl alone and no ambiguity. 😬

everyone else is of course free to look at it however thye so choose (maybe both other judges WILL allow interchangeable feats . . .)

I will only because I think because the the most common reason is that if that person couldn't think of doing and I don't like placing imagination limits on people

Edit: and this isn't an arguement against Leo people this is just me showing how I feel on the subject whatever the general consensus is by then I will go with it

Originally posted by batdude123
It never showed him doing anything.

All it showed was a picture of the building from the outside, with Majestic flying out of it.

Certainly could be taken another way...

What about him fighting the enhanced Doomsday that Mxy made?

Originally posted by Validus
Leo, if you ever say mon ami again, things will get ugly.
😂

Originally posted by bigbran
Certainly could be taken another way...

What about him fighting the enhanced Doomsday that Mxy made?

Exactly. He wasn't shown doing anything to Majestic. Just him flying out after a "BOOM!"

Ambiguous to say the least.

BS can power himself up with his powers to make it seem like he has strength. But he lost the super strength 😬

Originally posted by Validus
Leo, if you ever say mon ami again, things will get ugly.

the french turned you on, didn't?

droolio

Originally posted by batdude123
Nope. He lost all of his super strength. He was only able to go toe to toe with a Millenium Giant because he converted energy to matter.

In a training session with Kyle, Supes even mensions all his strength is gone. Kyle was dropping thousands of tons of matter on him, but he reversified the force, and repelled Kyle's constructs via an EM field.


Yes but when he converted energy to matter, it increased his strength. Could you really see someone who could only lift 300 pounds hanging with a Millenium Giant? He increased his size and strength by converting energy to matter. I mean, if you still want to classify him as energy that's fine, I was just pointing something out.

He's able to "appear" strong because he can convert energy to matter.

http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics744p208kj.jpg

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes but when he converted energy to matter, it increased his strength. Could you really see someone who could only lift 300 pounds hanging with a Millenium Giant? He increased his size and strength by converting energy to matter. I mean, if you still want to classify him as energy that's fine, I was just pointing something out.

All I said was he lost all of his super strength.

His "energy to matter" tidbit is nothing more than another energy manipulating tactic.

Originally posted by batdude123
He's able to "appear" strong because he can convert energy to matter.

http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics744p208kj.jpg

Wouldn't that mean that he can amp his strength up, to high levels?
Basically with the prep, his no strength will turn into that strength.

Originally posted by leonidas
the french turned you on, didn't?

droolio


The use of such an ambiguous smilie is appropriate.