Abraxas VS Lucifer Morningstar

Who wins? 🤣

Let's see ...
Vertigo = non canon
Lucifer's prime feat: creating a universe, and he didn't do it with just his own power.
Lucifer second only to the Presence? - Pfft, in Vertigo there's been stated that there are beings above the Presence.

Lucifer looses either way ...

Are you kidding? Lucifer would destroy him, he's at Living Tribunal level.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Are you kidding? Lucifer would destroy him, he's at Living Tribunal level.

1. Lucifer's prime feat - creating a universe.

How did he do it?
He took Michael's power . . .

Lucifer + Michael = One universe
Lucifer + Michael >>>> Lucifer
One universe >>>> Lucifer

Abraxas almost destroyed the entire Multi-verse, his mere presence made it colapse . . .

Second to Presence means nothing ... Presence might have just created a lot of whimps.
It's like saying that SSJ4 Gogeta was the most powerful in his universe.
Means nothing at all . . .

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Let's see ...
Vertigo = non canon
Lucifer's prime feat: creating a universe, and he didn't do it with just his own power.
Lucifer second only to the Presence? - Pfft, in Vertigo there's been stated that there are beings above the Presence.

Lucifer looses either way ...

Vertigo is cannon wtf are you talking about 🙄

So Presence isn't the most powerful being in DC?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=430472&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

Lucifer takes this for the major majority.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So Presence isn't the most powerful being in DC?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=430472&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

The "External Forces" he's talking about are the writers.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Stop shoving around that damn scan!

The "External Forces" he's talking about are the writers.

So ...
TOAA = DC Writer
Presence 2nd = Living Tribunal 2nd

Nah, not even that, since Vertigo is a universe.
Lucifer copyed the creation, and made one universe.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So ...
TOAA = DC Writer
Presence 2nd = Living Tribunal 2nd

Nah, not even that, since Vertigo is a universe.
Lucifer copyed the creation, and made one universe.

🙄

Marvel toaa isnot a write rit is just a character

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So ...
TOAA = DC Writer
Presence 2nd = Living Tribunal 2nd

Nah, not even that, since Vertigo is a universe.
Lucifer copyed the creation, and made one universe.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
🙄

Marvel toaa isnot a write rit is just a character

Marvel GOD is Jack Kirby.

TOAA is Stan Lee, they are them but appear in comics.

Originally posted by Ichigo66666
Marvel GOD is Jack Kirby.

TOAA is Stan Lee, they are them but appear in comics.

and anyways the DC god is the editor in chief

amnd I'm guessing the outside forces that the presence was talking about was our "God" if you beleive in it obviously.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Vertigo is cannon wtf are you talking about 🙄

Vertigo has never been in continuity. 😐

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Vertigo has never been in continuity. 😐

That's like saying that Spawn isn't canon just because it's not in DC.
Not everything is DC and Marvel.

Originally posted by bigbran
Not to DC, but in it's own universe/whatever.

That's like saying that Spawn isn't canon just because it's not in DC.
Not everything is DC and Marvel.

thank you thats what I was trying to say

Originally posted by Devil Lance
thank you thats what I was trying to say

Also, to those that think that it is "non-canon" how the hell, does an entire comic book line, with it's own multiverse title, equal non-canon?
I guess Image is non-canon...

Lucifer has about 70 (is it) comics to himself.

Lucifer wins! He beats gods when hes powerless. And Thanos please drop the anti-DC God crap. It makes you look childish.

During the Abraxas arc,

it seemed that ONLY the Ultimate Nullifier could stop Abraxas.

And it took REMAKING the entire Multi-verse at that.

Originally posted by Mr Master
During the Abraxas arc,

it seemed that ONLY the Ultimate Nullifier could stop Abraxas.

And it took REMAKING the entire Multi-verse at that.