Originally posted by ThePittman
Well rape is more about control then sex, it is the domination of the other person that fuels their fire.
true, and to thwart the 'natural' argument, one could argue that it is an extention of the instinctive drive to be the alpha male. also not exclusive to males since women who are aggressive/violent tend to have alot of testosterone. so yes its a male trait, but not its not exclusively or even predominately male.
Originally posted by ThePittman
Well rape is more about control then sex, it is the domination of the other person that fuels their fire.
Sounds ridiculous. Probably due to being it.
Also when you say "fuels their fire" aren't you basically meaning "satisfies their natural (and sexual) urges". I mean. Really?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
In ANY sociology / criminology Book. Or even better, try the British Crime Surveys. This is a standard statistic!I don't get my sources from shitty websites, if thats what you meant.
I'm just not satisfied with that answer. Have you anything to say that proves the website called www.angryharry,com is shitty? You have still not given a strong argument against the article [I have now posted on this thread]. Coming from any British survey [meaning from the government] I find this "standard statistic" extremely inaccurate. Why so Akira? Read the dam article and give me an argument with elaborates on Angry harry being whom you see fit to call a "prick" and his website shitty when you have CLEARLY not read the articles or set foot on it - if you had you would give some solid arguments!
Its quite clear that women's views and feelinsg are talked about, explained and debated everywhere from the newspapers to this very thread but it feels like no-one [mostly due to men not speaking up] knows SHIT about what goes on the minds of men
Originally posted by Bardock42No, not at all, many rapes are about sex but others are purely about control over another person. It is a fine line I will admit but where it is not the sex that drives them but it is the switch in their brain that has made the domination of people sexual for them.
Sounds ridiculous. Probably due to being it.Also when you say "fuels their fire" aren't you basically meaning "satisfies their natural (and sexual) urges". I mean. Really?
Originally posted by PVS
i guess to you it is, and perception is reality, however in that of the psychiatric community that reality is still up for debate.
Sure, but one is wrong. Since both can't apply fully, can they? Just slight logic there.
Originally posted by ThePittman
No, not at all, many rapes are about sex but others are purely about control over another person. It is a fine line I will admit but where it is not the sex that drives them but it is the switch in their brain that has made the domination of people sexual for them.
Yes, that may be, but to deny that they are about sexual urges is ridiculous. They are in some cases. That is just a fact.
Originally posted by lil bitchinessYou're creating false dichotomies. That every mother does not kill her child, or that every man does not rape, does not preclude that the underlying causative factors may be "natural".
They are not natural causes. In most cases they are learnt behvaiours. Depression is a psychological disproder.Resentment is a learnt behaviour, so is stress.
The fact that rape does not stream from natural sources is clear. If that was the case EVERY SINGLE male would have urge to rape, or would have raped a women.
Same goes for mothers. If the nature is the core of the problem, then ALL women would initially kill one of their children after birth - but they don't.
So that theory is bullshit, since it does not include MAJORITY of human population.
Originally posted by Akira99Read your sentence out loud, it answers your own question.
Have you anything to say that proves the website called www.angryharry,com is shitty?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You're creating false dichotomies. That every mother does not kill her child, or that every man does not rape, does not preclude that the underlying causative factors may be "natural".
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Originally posted by Bardock42It is about the control that gives them a sexual release, much the same way that people do extreme sport for the adrenalin rush but this has manifested to a sexual nature. This has also been show to happen with serial killers that they kill and during the act or later thinking about it gives them a sexual release.
Sure, but one is wrong. Since both can't apply fully, can they? Just slight logic there.Yes, that may be, but to deny that they are about sexual urges is ridiculous. They are in some cases. That is just a fact.
Now I will admit I’m no psychology major but this is more from what I have read and talked to my friends that have or are in law enforcement so I may not explain it the best but as said this is still debated in the psychology community and no “real” answer has been found.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Sure, but one is wrong. Since both can't apply fully, can they? Just slight logic there.
it is fact that the sex drive motive does not apply fully. i know that, regarding prison rape psychology.
in fact i believe that neither apply fully and that its really case by case.
To deny that the desire for sexual gratification plays at least some role in the motivation and mentality behind rape is relatively silly.
Originally posted by Bardock42Aww, how sweet. We should go to Holland and have a three-way marriage with Monica Bellucci.
I am awfully fond of you. And not only because you always have such ridiculously nice sigs and avis.