The Flaws of Roman Catholicism

Originally posted by Gregory
30,000 children die each day, and you spend your time arguing that God watches porn.

30,000 children die each day and i dedicate much of my work time donating whatever my small income can give to prevent these unnecessary deaths, while trying to put myself through college without getting kicked out for financial reasons....

I do not aim to judge, condemn, or instigate hostility between any persons. I critisize mainstream Christianity, not Christianity as a whole, because of the superficial morality it tries to collectively push.

A great Evangelical man (I forget his name) recently argued that we in America are wasting a LOT of time, money, and energy on issues such as Abortion and Gay Marriage, issues that PALE in comparison to the REAL EVILS of this world: Poverty, Disease, and Starvation.

He is infuriated that "his people", the Christian Wing, spends more time trying to oppress Homosexual people and tell women what to do with thier pregnancies, while pretty much ignoring the poverty and suffering that exists in our world, let alone our own country.

And btw, Council, when I said "we" I meant ALL OF US, not just you or anyone else. I myself included. WE ARE ALL wasting our time arguing a bunch of bullshit, when the TRUE evils still occur in our reality, and we do nothing but bicker, condemn, insult, and judge each other, a WASTE of our collective potential.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
30,000 children die each day and i dedicate much of my work time donating whatever my small income can give to prevent these unnecessary deaths, while trying to put myself through college without getting kicked out for financial reasons....

I do not aim to judge, condemn, or instigate hostility between any persons.

I critisize mainstream Christianity, not Christianity as a whole, because of the superficial morality it tries to collectively push.

A great Evangelical man (I forget his name) recently argued that we in America are wasting a LOT of time, money, and energy on issues such as Abortion and Gay Marriage, issues that PALE in comparison to the REAL EVILS of this world: Poverty, Disease, and Starvation.

He is infuriated that "his people", the Christian Wing, spends more time trying to oppress Homosexual people and tell women what to do with thier pregnancies, while pretty much ignoring the poverty and suffering that exists in our world, let alone our own country.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
30,000 children all over the world die each day, and here we go arguing about the details of a religion.....

I thnk Christianity distracts us from the true problems that exist in our world.

That... came out of nowhere.

🙂 NOTE😛lease if you are Catholic I'm not trying to be mean but I'm trying to help

🙂 NOTE: I am Born-Again

1.THE CROSS, STATUES, and FIESTAS
For one thing, the cross is a symbol/ a sign of salvation however some factions kiss, wipe their handkerchiefs on it or etc. The Statues of Saints are not required, we don't need to be reminded of their martyrship or what they did because a true Christian knows what they did. Also we do not need Mary or any other saints being carried around in processions.+These fiestas and festivals are really starting to get me thinking that the SAINTS, not CHRIST, but THE SAINTS are being honored.

2.PRIESTS AND HIERARCHY
True Christian Factions have Pastors over them

3.MARY, SAINTS, AND PURGATORY
Mary does not have to be remembered in prayers. Same for Saints.Also do not ask dead guys to pray for you. They aren't selfish but in salvation if you're dead you have no business with the living, they should go frolic in the flower gardens of heaven and spend lost time with your TRUE FATHER. If you're living you have no help from Heaven but GOD so spread the gospel, don't ask for prayers for people who aren't on earth. Also there IS NO PURGATORY, as I said the dead can't pray for you. If you turn out in a bright place, frolic in nearby flower gardens and give GOD an everlasting hug, preferably the latter. If it turns out to be steam, you're probably in YOU-KNOW-WHERE.

4.FORGIVENESS
Priests can't forgive anybody that hasn't committed a sin to the priests because we have the power to forgive anyone WHO HAS TRESPASSED AGAINST US. But to make it quick and easy (since GOD wants it to be easy like signing a contract with nothing on it)we ask forgiveness from GOD. Also no one is the representative of GOD on Earth but CHRIST ALONE.
🙂 PS. No one is perfect but GOD so forgive any of us if we made mistakes ourselves, I myself forgive the Church for it's misleadings to me (I'm a convert)

Why do you bother? Is there a Born-Again/Evangelist meta-game that involves putting down Catholicism for points?

I was raised Roman Catholic, though I don't subscribe to... Well, pretty much any of it.

Just funny seeing a born-again Christian trying to talk about flaws in another aspect of Religion. Irony?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Why do you bother? Is there a Born-Again/Evangelist meta-game that involves putting down Catholicism for points?

I bet if we pointed out all the silly things about his religion, he would say we are being mean to him. Even if we said "I'm not trying to be mean but I'm trying to help".

Ok sorry about the name it was the only thing i could think of .Also I do not do this for points, no religion does that, besides I wouldn't dare put any offenses against any other religious groups ( except atheism and satanist-related junk) unless it was completely necessary (which happens 0.0000000000000000000000001%) of the time. And these posts are not offenses, I am trying to point them out. Also please point out what I said wrong I'm willing to defend my position, although you can ridicule my profile or my name as much as you like but definitely not my religion.

"I wouldn't dare put any offenses against any other religious groups except atheism"
You wouldn't put offense against groups that believe in a different God but would against a group that does no believe in some sort of God?

Also on KMC saying things like "you can ridicule my profile but definitely not my religion" is an equivalent of waving a red flag in bull's face. Sometimes it feels like ridiculing religions is all people do on this forum.

Originally posted by SamZED
"I wouldn't dare put any offenses against any other religious groups except atheism"
You wouldn't put offense against groups that believe in a different God but would against a group that does no believe in [b]some sort of God?

Also on KMC saying things like "you can ridicule my profile but definitely not my religion" is an equivalent of waving a red flag in bull's face. Sometimes it feels like ridiculing religions is all people do on this forum. [/B]

To be fair sometimes they criticize nationalities.

Originally posted by Bentley
To be fair sometimes they criticize nationalities.

Originally posted by Bentley
To be fair sometimes they criticize nationalities.

Originally posted by SamZED
lol so true.

Originally posted by Y do I bother
Ok sorry about the name it was the only thing i could think of .Also I do not do this for points, no religion does that, besides I wouldn't dare put any offenses against any other religious groups ( except atheism and satanist-related junk) unless it was completely necessary (which happens 0.0000000000000000000000001%) of the time. And these posts are not offenses, I am trying to point them out. Also please point out what I said wrong I'm willing to defend my position, although you can ridicule my profile or my name as much as you like but definitely not my religion.

I find it interesting that one group of Christians would attack the beliefs of other Christians. After all, Predestines came from Catholics.

Here's a thought - if you take offense when other people criticize your religion, don't go to a public forum and announce how much better it is compared to anything else. I'm cool with people believing in whatever helps them through the day. When they start doing stupid shit like claiming other groups are fake (when these groups are by definition Christian and came first) or trying to belittle established science, it just deserves a good smiting.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

Here's a thought - if you take offense when other people criticize your religion, don't go to a public forum and announce how much better it is compared to anything else.

Is that a particularly good thought?

If he really does have the best option available, is not going public precisely what he SHOULD do to help the greatest possible number of people?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

I'm cool with people believing in whatever helps them through the day.

No, Moose.

You and I both know you are not cool with people believing in whatever helps them through the day.

JesusIsAlive would still be a poster on this forum if that were true.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

When they start doing stupid [things] like claiming other groups are fake (when these groups are by definition Christian and came first)
or trying to belittle established science, it just deserves a good smiting.

The Catholic Church is fake, and in any other place you'd be the one saying so in the guise of inappropriate jokes about priests molesting young patrons.

Nor is the Catholic Church the first group to call itself Christian.

Nor do they concern themselves overmuch with the word Christ himself is supposed to have inspired as the Christian guide.

You're not going to find commands to pray to Mary, Virgin Mother of God anywhere in an actual Bible, for instance.
So ... where'd they adopt the practice from?
From one of the religions that did have female deities, perhaps?

Do some research and you'll find nearly every aspect of pagan culture was adopted by the Catholic Church to add to its numbers and power.

And your argument that groups like the Catholic Church are "by definition" Christian doesn't hold much water either.

The Bible itself makes a case against the mere calling of a group "Christian" as a sufficient qualification of actually BEING Christian.

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21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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(Matthew 21-23)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7&version=AKJV

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
JesusIsAlive would still be a poster on this forum if that were true.

To be fair, JIA was trolling and was doing little to encourage debate.

If the Catholic Church is an imposter, then all religions that came from the Catholic Church are also imposters.

“…Protestantism formed from the split with Roman Catholicism during the Reformation in the 16th century…”

http://www.patheos.com/Library/Protestantism.html

“…The Protestant Reformation of the early 16th century was an attempt to reform the Catholic Church…”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Protestantism

The idea that Protestantism was not derived from Catholicism is an attempt to deceive people by re-writing history.

Four things, BWR:

1. If you think pulled pork sandwiches are the best sandwiches ever, there's places where it's inappropriate to push this agenda. If you feel Republicans are the only sane American political party, there's places where it's inappropriate or at least inadvisable to push such an agenda and expect amiability. If you single-mindedly say that tattoos are morally wrong, posting in a predominantly tatoo'd forum is a special, stubborn kind of stupid. The kind that says "I don't care about your right to be different because you're wrong, according to my group's beliefs".

2. JIA went utterly apeshit one morning, without any provocation from me, and necro'd something like 20 threads, some over six years' abandoned, just to spam his agenda. The same agends which he has had since day one, and the same one which people have called him out for all that time. I had nothing to do with the previous bannings. I am not responsible for his behaviour. But I do remain steadfast in he had crossed the line. The staff, given his history, opted to ban him. He then immediately and obviously socked, showing his agenda is more important than the forum's collective opinion or rules.

3. The only people I call out for their beliefs are those too numb to realize such beliefs are subjective of a group. You can believe in whatever the hell you want and I truly don't care. When you come to this forum and act like you have a monopoly on the sole truth, expect pushback. Stop whining like a butthurt ***** about it.

4. That special kind of agenda-driven stupid JIA had? You've picked up his torch. Prepare for the heat which is a natural consequence.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
When you come to this forum and act like you have a monopoly on the sole truth, expect pushback.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
It is incredibly astounding just how many people, anywhere, don't understand this one.

You mean I'm not right and the center of the universe?