What's worse: Pedophiles or Murderers?

Started by lord xyz88 pages

Originally posted by Starhawk
Nope I'm not a hypocrite, I feel Murder and Pedophilia should be captial crimes. They are two crimes where you can never repair the damage you've done.

I'm sick of people trying to come up with ideal solutions for a far from ideal world. We need to be more realistic and find ways that work for the world we have not the one we wish we had.

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let me again remind everyone that pedophilia is a psychological disorder and not a crime...and that acting upon urges and raping a child is the crime.

unless you're of the logic that people who are psychotic should be put to death because some of them are dangerous.

SOME of them are? They don't feel sympathy or compassion or remorse. You should read up on the internet what allot of Psychotics have done. (Make sure you don't eat first)

And it's a condition which can never be cured.

As you can tell I'm a big supporter of Capital Punishment.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Nope I'm not a hypocrite, I feel Murder and Pedophilia should be captial crimes. They are two crimes where you can never repair the damage you've done.

I'm sick of people trying to come up with ideal solutions for a far from ideal world. We need to be more realistic and find ways that work for the world we have not the one we wish we had.

Realistic ? Let's pop thier testicles..... 🙄

Originally posted by Starhawk

As you can tell I'm a big supporter of Capital Punishment.

Doesn't that make you a murderer ?

Originally posted by Starhawk
SOME of them are? They don't feel sympathy or compassion or remorse.

Don't they?

Some of them are monsters; the ones who act on their urges.

No it doesn't. It's a legally sanctioned punishment. Motive is also key here. Your killing them for commiting a heinous crime. I'm also an ends justify the means person....

I would rather see a killer put to death then pay taxes to keep them in prison for the rest of their life.

Originally posted by Starhawk
SOME of them are? They don't feel sympathy or compassion or remorse. You should read up on the internet what allot of Psychotics have done. (Make sure you don't eat first)

ignorance is very ugly, as clearly illustrated here. research psychosis before you declare yourself a professor on the subject

Originally posted by Starhawk
And it's a condition which can never be cured.

exactly. psychotic people have to stay medicated their entire lives and have to struggle to achieve some remnants of normalcy. i imagine its especially tough when ignoramuses label them as dangerous just because they read articles about murderers who were psychotic on teh intranet.

Originally posted by Starhawk
As you can tell I'm a big supporter of Capital Punishment.

...who supports killing people for any psychological disorder which they are afflicted with, so long as even a minority of those afflicted have dangerous tendencies. hey, lets kill retarded people too, right? you know, many violent crimes have been committed by people who are developmentally disabled.

Well I think we should execute all heterosexual males. Look how many rapes they've commited! They're a menace to society.

Originally posted by Starhawk
No it doesn't. It's a legally sanctioned punishment. Motive is also key here. Your killing them for commiting a heinous crime. I'm also an ends justify the means person....

I would rather see a killer put to death then pay taxes to keep them in prison for the rest of their life.

Do you honestly beleive the Death Penalty is worse than Life In Prison ?

Death Penalty can sometimes be merciful compared to Life In Prison where the Child Rapist will be harassed, tormented, raped, brutalized, and even eventually killed in prison by other cell mates.

Originally posted by Gregory
Well I think we should execute all heterosexual males. Look how many rapes they've commited! They're a menace to society.

BAZIIIING!!! *hat tip*

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Death Penalty can sometimes be merciful compared to Life In Prison where the Child Rapist will be harassed, tormented, raped, brutalized, and even eventually killed in prison by other cell mates.

sexual offenders are never placed with the general population as they will be immediately killed. there are seperate fenced-off prisons which house them.

Originally posted by Gregory
Don't they?

Some of them are monsters; the ones who act on their urges.

No they don't, and it's a larger number then you would think. I'm a Law Student and I've studied this at length.

And remember what I said about MOTIVE being key?

And it's nice to have a very libreal view on this. Wait until somehting like this happens to someone you know and your views would change drastically.

One thing I hope to do in my legal career is bring back Captial Punishment in Canada.

Originally posted by PVS
sexual offenders are never placed with the general population as they will be immediately killed. there are seperate fenced-off prisons which house them.

Maybe in the US, but they aren't up here. And let's not forget, no one forced them to become sex offenders they made that choice and they deserve what they get both during and after prison.

"No they don't" what? I didn't include "They do x" anywhere in my posts.

I don't care what you study.

Just because you're a vengeful person, don't assume that everybody will become like you given the motivation. I know people who have had loved ones murdered but oppose the death penalty.

Meanwhile, your stated goal is to make the world a worse place. Congratulations.

Did you even bother to look at the site I linked?

Originally posted by Starhawk
No they don't, and it's a larger number then you would think. I'm a Law Student and I've studied this at length.

so you studied cases in law dealing with psychotics. thus psychotics who have committed crimes.
...so i guess your opinion is no more relevant than ours. bring in an advanced psychology student and i'll listen.
you however are being a blow hard:

Blowhard feels the need to present his credentials before entering the fray - even if they are irrelevant to the discussion. For example, in a movie forum conflict he might attempt to settle the matter by saying, "As a Ph. D. candidate in particle physics I believe I can say with some authority that the 'Beavis and Butthead' movie represents the emergence of a new cultural paradigm." Huh?

psychosis is not automatically violent or
dangerous, unless considering being a danger to one's self.

No a safer one. The world is already a worse place, the only way it will get better is when we get tough on crime in a serious way. And I've read over case after case of what these monsters have done and in many cases the families do wish the criminal to be put to death.

Why don't you stop feeling sorry for the monsters and start feeling something for the victims?

Originally posted by Starhawk
Maybe in the US, but they aren't up here. And let's not forget, no one forced them to become sex offenders they made that choice and they deserve what they get both during and after prison.

may as well put them to death then. the modern western prison system/theory was concieved as a means of rehabilitation and public safety. it was not concieved to give people "what they deserve". i thought you were a law student...i pity your future clients 🙄

Why don't you stop feeling sorry for the monsters and start feeling something for the victims?

Did PVS or myself say we do not feel sorry for victims of child-rape? Where did we say this? Some people--not you, evidently--can feel compassion for more then one group of people.

great...we have another strawman basher who refuses to read anyone's posts...he'll fit right in here