What's worse: Pedophiles or Murderers?

Originally posted by PVS
do you know what a mental disorder is?
do you know the difference between that and a crime?

apparently not, so you may as well drop out of law school and quit wasting dad's money.

Did you read my post about how I distinguished between someone who has the PONTENIAL to commit crime and someone who ACTUALLY commits a crime?

And no, I am going to become a crown attorney and work my entire career to bring back the death penalty and work towards harsher punishments for monsters like these.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Well you can have your bleeding heart view of sympathy for rapists, pedophiles and murderers.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I think both should [murderers and Pedophiles] not be considered under the law to be human beings.

Originally posted by Starhawk

1. I'm am preposing a punishment on people who COMMIT crimes, not ones that have potential to. Until they actually commit the crime in my eyes they have a shot.

nuff said. go to your room and quit pretending to have a consistant or valid opinion. dont replay, dont try to win, just stfu and reflect on your folly so that you might grow from this. 🙂

Your inability to understand my posts really isn't my problem, Starhawk. I have expressed sympathy for non-practicing pedophiles. Why shouldn't I? They have a terrible mental disorder that will prevent them from ever entering into a normal relationship.

If you think your statement is based on things I've posted, tell me where I have expressed sympathy for practicing pedophiles, rapists, and murderers. It will no doubt be easy for you, since all my comments on this board are preserved for all to see.

allow me:

Originally posted by Gregory
Your inability to understand my posts really isn't my problem, Starhawk. I have expressed sympathy for non-practicing pedophiles. Why shouldn't I? They have a terrible mental disorder that will prevent them from ever entering into a normal relationship.

If you think your statement is based on things I've posted, tell me where I have expressed sympathy for practicing pedophiles, rapists, and murderers. It will no doubt be easy for you, since all my comments on this board are preserved for all to see. [/B]

I think my cases has been very consistant, Murderers and Pedophiles should be put to death. But until they actaully COMMIT a crime they deserve the benefit of a doubt.

That seems a very easy point of view for someone to understand.

It's hard for us to understand because in your very first post in this thread, you say that pedophiles who haven't actually commited a crime should be forcibly drugged or mutilated, just in case.

That is not what most people consider "giving the benefit of a doubt."

I consider Pedophile to be someone who ACTUALLY rapes or molests a child.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I think my cases has been very consistant, Murderers and Pedophiles should be put to death. But until they actaully COMMIT a crime they deserve the benefit of a doubt.

inconsistancy #1
a murderer is one who has committed a crime

inconsistancy #2
pedophelia, for the 12th frikin time, is a mental disorder and not a crime.
do you mean child rapist? then say that. or shall we just go on assuming that pedophiles will rape children and psychotics will kill?

you're self contradiction is downright exhausting to watch

Originally posted by Starhawk
I consider Pedophile to be someone who ACTUALLY rapes or molests a child.

then you are factually wrong, and the fact that you pretty much declare in that statement that you will boldly continue to be deliberately spiteful of fact and definition, you deserve no respect here or anywhere. i think willful ignorance should be punishable in the court of law. how about that?

Yes murderers (meaning someone who has commited a murder) and Pedophiles (meaning someone who HAS raped or molested) should be put to death.

Nothing inconsistant about that.

i hate people who make their own definitions in spite of reality.
you really should work at mcdonalds. do it now rather than in 2 years
when you'll also be buried in student debt.

Originally posted by PVS
then you are factually wrong, and the fact that you pretty much declare in that statement that you will boldly continue to be deliberately spiteful of fact and definition, you deserve no respect here or anywhere. i think willful ignorance should be punishable in the court of law. how about that?

Originally posted by PVS
then you are factually wrong, and the fact that you pretty much declare in that statement that you will boldly continue to be deliberately spiteful of fact and definition, you deserve no respect here or anywhere. i think willful ignorance should be punishable in the court of law. how about that?

Worse then being just wrong, this is clearly gibberish. He said in his first post that

Pedophiles- 2 ideas, I believe that there are chemicals which can kill a persons sex drive and prevent them from becoming aroused. Or if that doesn't work simply take a jackhammer to their testicles.

So he believes that people who rape children should be put to death, but he also believes that people who rape children--since that's what he thinks a pedophile is--should be drugged so that they can't be aroused, or forcibly mutilated.

Huh?

Do we drug them while they're waiting on death row?

Originally posted by Starhawk
I consider Pedophile to be someone who ACTUALLY rapes or molests a child.

1) What do you call an 80 year old man who watches kiddie porn ?

2) What do you call a 40 year old man who masturbates over the thought of naked children ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
2) What do you call a 40 year old man who masturbates over the thought of naked children ?

ok let me nip this one in the bud
BARDOCK, IM TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW!!!! DONT SAY IT, ****ER!!!! 😠

People who rape and moltest children should ethier be chemically steralized of put to death. Which ever works best. Some people have a strong resistance to medication.

But in the end people are going to get so sick of this type of violent cirme that they will enact the death penalty and strict punishments, not out of want but out of need. The number of child molesters and rapist is growing in number. And some asmit to assualting as much as 100 kids. Think of all the grief that wouldve been spared if we just put a bullet in their head after the first kid.

In any event I will work my whole life to make sure that they pay for what they do. And I know many people in my classes who agree with me. So say whatever you want it will not sway me or those that agree with me.

Originally posted by PVS
ok let me nip this one in the bud
BARDOCK, IM TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW!!!! DONT SAY IT, ****ER!!!! 😠

Wow you really don't respect the rights of other people. he can say whatever he wants.

People who rape and moltest children should ethier be chemically steralized of put to death. Which ever works best. Some people have a strong resistance to medication.

That wasn't what you said in your first post. There it was, "People who rape children should be sterilized or castrated"--given your totally absurd definition of "pedophile."

I like how you admit that it's completely impossible to sway you. Being open to other people's arguments is a sign of weakness!

(I also like how you tried to turn PVS' joke into proof that he doesn't believe in free speech, but he doesn't need me to fight his internet battles for him, least of all against you.)

Originally posted by Starhawk
People who rape and moltest children should ethier be chemically steralized of put to death. Which ever works best. Some people have a strong resistance to medication.

But in the end people are going to get so sick of this type of violent cirme that they will enact the death penalty and strict punishments, not out of want but out of need. The number of child molesters and rapist is growing in number. And some asmit to assualting as much as 100 kids. Think of all the grief that wouldve been spared if we just put a bullet in their head after the first kid.

In any event I will work my whole life to make sure that they pay for what they do. And I know many people in my classes who agree with me. So say whatever you want it will not sway me or those that agree with me.

Why can't you answer my questions ? Are you stupid ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
1) What do you call an 80 year old man who watches kiddie porn ?

2) What do you call a 40 year old man who masturbates over the thought of naked children ?

Starhawk..please answer

Originally posted by Starhawk
Wow you really don't respect the rights of other people. he can say whatever he wants.

did that joke mess your hair up as it flew over your head?
maybe you should take a breather

anyway, apologies in advance to all reading this since im forced to drop a websters bomb, but its needed here:

pe·do·phile [noun]
-an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.

no second definition. no "one who rapes children." its not open to translation/interpretation. its a mental disorder, which directly implies that it is neither a crime nor that the commiting of a crime to satisfy those urges is unavoidable.

you're lack of willingness to concede a point in which you are blatantly and factually wrong, on a level which a 6 year old can grasp, proves that you are not fit to participate in any debate.