Originally posted by StarhawkThat is a term commonly used throughout modern society and not just the law; this is why I seriously doubt you are even in law school. Normally when someone is learning a new subject they like to use it and I have not even once seen you use any legal terms or any type or reference to one.
By that I meant a term commonly used by people in the legal profession.
But I have to go now and get back to my normal "uneducated non-law knowing life".
I am, lawyers study through 5 years of university in Canada, this is after 3 years getting a bachelor degree and then they spend 2 years after that articling with a law firm. That makes them qualified. [/QUOTE]
Originally posted by chithappens
What does that have to do with having an informed opinion about the average citizen who is not as fortunate? Are you no one those who think people do not get an education because they do not want one?
Originally posted by Starhawk
If they aren't willing to invest the time to learn what they need to they do not need to be brought into the process.
Originally posted by chithappens
Not qualified to make laws for society. If there are people like you in control, Canadian immigrants will run ammuck in the U.S. (not like this is a much better option in terms of corruption) fearing you will tell them not to make jokes you do not think are funny or go to prison. 😆
Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes we are qualified enough after devoting 10 years of our lives to study on the subject. And we study case history and theory of law and believe me by the time we are done we are more then ready to take up the burden.The average person is not well informed enough on the subject to be brought into the process.
Originally posted by chithappens
I still think living it informs them more than just simply been educated about "what it is like to be there."They may not know how to put laws in place or put any sort of movement into affect, but people like you are supposed to HELP them and it doesn't seem like you care to interact with them, only impose new sanctions.
If I am wrong in this assumption that's fine but that is what it seems like thus far.
Originally posted by Starhawk
It isn't about fairness, in any career field you require training. 10 years is enough to be qualified. And I already explained why lawmakers don't look for a show of hands.
Originally posted by chithappens
I said nothing about fairness. Not helping others be educated enough to make decisions worthy of their autonomy is BS. That is unfair - since you brought up fairness.Saying you are worthy enough to make laws and apply the law because you know what they do not is complete BS.
Shouldn't one of your goals be to help educate the average citizen? Might also help reduce the very thing you would not mind executing people for.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Thats what law professors are for. And Law is taught in high school as well. But I wouldn't trust someone with only a high school biology class experience to operate on me. Not everyone needs to be involved int he legal process. Their are lawyers with a wide range of political and ideological views to represent the country as a whole in the law making process.
Originally posted by chithappens
Why should certain people be excluded from the political process?
Originally posted by Starhawk
Read the other thread and you will see why some people do not need to be brought in to the process.
Originally posted by chithappens
I read them. Why don't you teach these people so they will be able to make educated, informed decisions?
Originally posted by Starhawk
I tried, they don't want to learn. You can't teach everyone. Besides it would be chaos if everyone was involved because they would all have an opinion.
hysterical
Originally posted by chithappens
You do not have a degree yet. You are not in position to handle laws.What method have you used to try?
Everyone has an opinion, informed or not.
Originally posted by Starhawk
None I will wait until I have my degree to start the process of having capital punishment restored.
Originally posted by chithappens
Then what is this talking about?
(I quoted "I tried but they don't want to learn."😉
Originally posted by Starhawk
That sentence makes no sense.
That is good enough.
Originally posted by ThePittman
That is a term commonly used throughout modern society and not just the law; this is why I seriously doubt you are even in law school. Normally when someone is learning a new subject they like to use it and I have not even once seen you use any legal terms or any type or reference to one.But I have to go now and get back to my normal "uneducated non-law knowing life".
Simply put if I were to use legal terms, I have no way of knowing you would understand them. I am trying to have this debate on your level of comprehension.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Simply put if I were to use legal terms, I have no way of knowing you would understand them. I am trying to have this debate on your level of comprehension.
I use neurological terms frequently
people seem to get them
If you explain and present things right, people can understand a lot, give them a chance 😛
Originally posted by inimalist
I use neurological terms frequentlypeople seem to get them
If you explain and present things right, people can understand a lot, give them a chance 😛
According to him, we are incapable because our knowledge is not as vast and he is certain of this because we do not go to school with him and he has telekinesis.
Originally posted by Starhawk
A [B]LAW STUDENT . Haven't you been paying attention to those other guys? LOL I thought I would have some fun there.In any event, I don't have faith in the average person to be able to make a well-thought out decision when it comes to matters of law and the judicial branch of government. [/B]