What's worse: Pedophiles or Murderers?

Originally posted by chithappens
Skim the last three pages. It's in response to what I was saying about educating those who do not know how legal proceedings are handled. I do not know how to quote properly. I'll try but it'll be a trial and error thing. Give me a few minutes

dont even worry about it, he seems to have summed it up here:

Originally posted by Starhawk
If your going to speak for me do it only by quoting me to make sure you get it right. The average person is involved in that they vote in the politicians who make and adjust the laws. But that is where their involvement ends.

which is preposterous. Move to a medieval society

Originally posted by inimalist
dude, its 68 pages of majority spam. Thank you for the respect, I am trying to get to the origins of your opinions here

Can you at least say positively that you have a single study or article that implies a positive case for capital punishment

honestly, a name, a philosophy, a ruling, a title of a book, a case. Something I can look up for myself. I just have no clue where you are coming from

Since your the only one who seems interested in a real debate I will collect it together and PM it to you.

Originally posted by inimalist
dont even worry about it, he seems to have summed it up here:

which is preposterous. Move to a medieval society

It's not preposterous it's how our society works.

there is much more interaction between the political system and private citizens than the vote

My paraphrasing was pretty accurate. If I knew how to quote multiple quotes properly I would do it.

Anyone mind explaining how to do it real quick?

Originally posted by chithappens
My paraphrasing was pretty accurate. If I knew how to quote multiple quotes properly I would do it.

Anyone mind explaining how to do it real quick?

There's a quote button right across from the PHP and List button.

Originally posted by chithappens
When are you going to say something specific to law school that we "average" Joes do not know

Originally posted by inimalist
there is much more interaction between the political system and private citizens than the vote

Not as much as you think, politicians pass allot of laws and legislation that the public doesn't like.

Originally posted by chithappens
My paraphrasing was pretty accurate. If I knew how to quote multiple quotes properly I would do it.

Anyone mind explaining how to do it real quick?

quote a post, copy the text, click back, go to the next post and quote itm then paste the previous post there. Do as many times as necessary. 🙂

Originally posted by ThePittman
I asked him to show me the legal term "smoking gun" and couldn't even do that, as far as I know I don't remember reading about that law term, I know what the common term is but I want to see the legal reference which I couldn't find any. 😮

Smoking gun is a term lawyers use to describe a situation where you have absolute proof of guilt, such as an eye witness or video or DNA evidence that links the criminal to the crime without doubt.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Not as much as you think, politicians pass allot of laws and legislation that the public doesn't like.

lobby?

Originally posted by Starhawk
Since your the only one who seems interested in a real debate I will collect it together and PM it to you.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Smoking gun is a term lawyers use to describe a situation where you have absolute proof of guilt, such as an eye witness or video or DNA evidence that links the criminal to the crime without doubt.

Originally posted by inimalist
lobby?

There have been groups lobbying for reforms in many areas for over 20 years that meet with no success.

Originally posted by Starhawk
There have been groups lobbying for reforms in many areas for over 20 years that meet with no success.

Same with politicians who have wanted to go against the people's wants and needs.

Originally posted by Starhawk
The death penalty has never been a successful deterrent due to the lack of support given to it by the legal community. And it's not just about deterrence, that is only one of the goals of punishment, another one is societal retribution.

The point is these crimes are so savage and cruel that it is justified, and they can never repair or make up for the damage they caused.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Forcing your opinion onto others by attempting a change in law is hypocritical.

-AC

Originally posted by Starhawk
No it's the option we all have in a free society

Originally posted by chithappens
When the average citizen has no say in what laws are placed upon them, it can not be defined as a free society.

Not finished. This is a process...

Originally posted by ThePittman
That is the general description of the term, you said this was a [b]legal term so show me where this is in ANY legal books, website or what ever. [/B]

By that I meant a term commonly used by people in the legal profession.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Not everyone is qualified to make laws or adjust them.

damn left this out... sorry, first time doing multiple quotes

Originally posted by inimalist
you are kidding right?

From what one can determine the basis for reinstatement of death as a penalty is to kill some "scumbag murderers" at the hypocritical risk of state execution of innocent individuals, tantamount to state endorsed murder. Even though it doesn't act as a deterrent, nor does it increase the number of convictions of first degree murder, but purely because, you know, they're "scumbag filth less-than-human cocksucking dirty sanchezes" who need to just die. I.e. he's a vindictive angry person obsessive about vengeance who needs to take a chill pill. Preferably two.

Edit: Oh and he knows best because he's a first year pre-law student, and the rest of society should have no input in legislation whatsoever.

Originally posted by ThePittman
As I've said before I'm not worried about this, I'm worried about you becoming a lawyer and having some poor sole intrusting his/her freedom to your very flawed and poor debating skills. 😉

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Same with politicians who have wanted to go against the people's wants and needs.

What are you smoking? They do it all the time and the people have no problem with it because all the politicians have to do is promise to reduce taxes and the people stop complaining in any meaningful way.