huh 馃槕 what the hell did that say? Just cause OB1 "quit" is in no way indicative of the ultimate outcome. I could just as easily say that he knew he couldn't win/escape and gave up...you don't know that OB1 would have won. And people seem to forget that, yes Vader had a suit that might weigh more, but he also has cybernetic enhancements to aid with strength. And not even ROTS ob1 can match Vader's force mastery. What good is being faster and younger when you have the force choking the shit out of you?
Gotta go get the son a haircut...I'll finish later...
ok, if that was to me, you may want to reread what i wrote. I said force mastery, not raw force power. And no, OB1 would not be able to contend with Vader in the force. He couldn't when he was Anakin, and after learning a controlled darkside (which takes immense mastery of the force) aspect of the force, there's no way in hell he could contend with Vader.
Any proof to the contrary? Last I remember, Anakin wtfpwned Dooku and walked away with his saber. And don't use lightning as a power booster, it's a technique learned, not a feat based on power, but rather on knowledge. I don't see how you can be "off guard" in a fight with someone that can out right kick your ass. Sounds kinda lame to me to be honest. Also, the word instantly never came out of mouth (keyboard, whatever), I said what good would being younger and faster be if you were caught in a choke.
For examples of Anakin's/Vader's power in the force, look in the Respect thread and watch the OT. Choking someone on a completely different ship from god knows how far apart, is pretty amazing, What has Dooku done?