Originally posted by |King Joker|
Probably less so than you, who parades around spelling Ahsoka "assoka" lmfao
As blatant I'm about it, you are still more biased 馃檪
Originally posted by |King Joker|
I'm aware people besides you don't think the feat is impressive lmao, I was originally responding to your insinuation that I'm wrong in my interpretation of Dooku's feat because of my opinion on Ahsoka's feat by citing your own ridiculous view on the Dooku feat
And my ad hominem was originially a response to you deliberately ignoring the context of Dooku's feat while reading everything you possible can into assoka's.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
You're acting as if literally everyone else doesn't think Ahsoka's feat is impressive besides Beni and I, which is honestly hilarious because it's 1. factually false and
Eh, no. You pretended I'm the only one who thinks it isn't impressive when 1. that's factually false 馃檪
Originally posted by |King Joker|
2. I'm supposed to give a shit if it was true? Half the people who shit on Ahsoka do it due to their own separate agendas anyways lol
Right, everyone has an agenda but you and Beni, and DMB. Is that right? Then name someone other than me or Sel who in your view lowballs assoka 馃檪
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Alright got it I know exactly the place to see a perfect representation of a ragdollBy getting smashed around the ship, right
Repeatedly bringing up the same out of context feat that started our argument suppose to mean something? You got a lot to learn about shit talking kid.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
But it isn't because your proposed power levels are retarded
Ben is a shadow of his former self, meaning he's significantly below his prime. Ben performed similarly enough to assoka against a more powerful/experienced Vader. I can see why it would look retarded to a blatant fanboy tbh.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
I'm not the one relying on the "Vader just decided not to use the force" argument that is used near-constantly now to excuse away Vader's performances whenever he doesn't do as well as you want him to.
Which is a legit argument, you shitting on it just makes you look bad tbh. Sith sometimes elect not to use the force. You somehow only using the logic "if he didn't, he can't" with Vader is kinda pathetic.
What about Maul vs Kenobi, Jinn in TPM? What about Maul vs Kenobi on the shuttle in TCW? What about Maul vs Bruu Jun-Fan in The Sith Hunters? What about Dooku vs Kenobi and Anakin in AotC? Or Dooku vs Kenobi in TCW S6?
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Besides, the likelihood of Ben Kenobi being > RotS Kenobi in the Force in the new canon is very high
We can get back to that once it becomes a fact, but it has nothing to do with my original point.
Originally posted by cs_zoltanSure buddy, whatever you say. 馃檪
As blatant I'm about it, you are still more biased 馃檪
Originally posted by cs_zoltanYou keep bringing up this 'context' that supposedly excuses away the fact Kenobi got ragdolled but you've yet to actually mention what it is yet. I hope you're not referring to the junior novelization, lmao.
And my ad hominem was originially a response to you deliberately ignoring the context of Dooku's feat while reading everything you possible can into assoka's.
Originally posted by cs_zoltanNo, I just did the exact thing you did to me. 馃檪
Eh, no. You pretended I'm the only one who thinks it isn't impressive when 1. that's factually false 馃檪
Originally posted by cs_zoltanBecause that's what I said
Right, everyone has an agenda but you and Beni, and DMB. Is that right?
Originally posted by cs_zoltanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgxzQVGkTHk&t=0m55s
Then name someone other than me or Sel who in your view lowballs assoka 馃檪
Originally posted by cs_zoltanIf it got you triggered enough to insight this 'discussion' then here you go:
Repeatedly bringing up the same out of context feat that started our argument suppose to mean something? You got a lot to learn about shit talking kid.
Originally posted by cs_zoltanHe could be a shittier combatant yet more powerful to prevent a ragdoll.
Ben is a shadow of his former self, meaning he's significantly below his prime.
Originally posted by cs_zoltanI don't recall Vader being amped on the Death Star, do you? 馃檪
Ben performed similarly enough to assoka against a more powerful/experienced Vader.
Originally posted by cs_zoltanYawn. Fanboy accusations don't prove your point and are hilariously ironic coming from the resident Kenobi cocksucker, but if projection is your preferred defense mechanism I won't discourage you 馃檪
I can see why it would look retarded to a blatant fanboy tbh.
Originally posted by cs_zoltanIf you had actual proof Vader was holding back his abilities and that he could ragdoll Ahsoka whenever he wanted, then maybe I'd be like 'Hey, I can see where he's coming from', but you don't, and when Vader doesn't use the Force, your automatic assumption, without any critical thinking, is 'yeah, he totally could have ragdolled the entire time'. But if we look at modern canon fights with Vader, we see he doesn't really neglect using the Force, 1. vs. Kanan and Ezra where one of his opening moves was a Force push, then after that he completely dominates Ezra, and it was all while ****ing around with them -- 2. against Karbin where he basically immediately slammed him on the ground with the Force.
Which is a legit argument, you shitting on it just makes you look bad tbh. Sith sometimes elect not to use the force. You somehow only using the logic "if he didn't, he can't" with Vader is kinda pathetic.
Originally posted by cs_zoltanIs Maul not noted specifically that he holds back his powers? BTW, I obviously don't think that *every* fight where someone doesn't use the Force against their enemy means they can't.
What about Maul vs Kenobi, Jinn in TPM?
Originally posted by cs_zoltanWasn't Maul just getting back into the swing of things during that fight, since he was pretty recently physically restored by Talzin? Who knows if he actually could have effectively used the Force against Kenobi there.
What about Maul vs Kenobi on the shuttle in TCW?
Originally posted by cs_zoltanHaven't read the comic and I don't care enough to find it so ~whatever~
What about Maul vs Bruu Jun-Fan in The Sith Hunters?
Originally posted by cs_zoltanYou mean the fight where he electrocutes Anakin and slams him against a wall and attempts to electrocute Kenobi after? Regardless, Dooku was trolling the shit out of them in AotC.
What about Dooku vs Kenobi and Anakin in AotC?
Originally posted by cs_zoltanGood point -- probably because his martial abilities were already humiliating Kenobi.
Or Dooku vs Kenobi in TCW S6?
Originally posted by cs_zoltanI've kind of forgotten what the original point was at this point, this whole thing is getting pretty boring and forgettable tbh
We can get back to that once it becomes a fact, but it has nothing to do with my original point.
What the **** is up with people who blatantly despise a character accusing that character's fans of being so extremely biased due to their preference for the character, despite the fact that the same people levying these accusations at times seem to be even more obsessed with the character in question, but in the opposite direction. After three years on this forum, I've seen this repeat with various different characters, fans, and haters, and it's honestly pretty ****ing retarded all things considered.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
You keep bringing up this 'context' that supposedly excuses away the fact Kenobi got ragdolled but you've yet to actually mention what it is yet. I hope you're not referring to the junior novelization, lmao.
Maybe because you never asked. When I said Dooku didn't dominate Kenobi your reaction was:
Originally posted by |King Joker|
ahaha good one zoltan
So instead of asking what I base that on, you rather started a pissing contest. And people wonder why sw debating is dead 馃檪
And yes, it's the junior novel. I suppose you have a legit argument to the contrary instead of just laughing it off again?
Originally posted by |King Joker|
I don't recall Vader being amped on the Death Star, do you? 馃檪
Show me a quote that says Vader was amped on Malachor. A specific one, not a vague opinion about a vague ability when the guy even admited he doesn't know shit and refered to Filoni.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Yawn. Fanboy accusations don't prove your point and are hilariously ironic coming from the resident Kenobi cocksucker, but if projection is your preferred defense mechanism I won't discourage you 馃檪
You mean unlike your ad hominems about me being an assoka hater? Sure you stand on a moral high ground...in some fantasy of yours.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
If you had actual proof Vader was holding back his abilities and that he could ragdoll Ahsoka whenever he wanted, then maybe I'd be like 'Hey, I can see where he's coming from', but you don't, and when Vader doesn't use the Force, your automatic assumption, without any critical thinking, is 'yeah, he totally could have ragdolled the entire time'. But if we look at modern canon fights with Vader, we see he doesn't really neglect using the Force, 1. vs. Kanan and Ezra where one of his opening moves was a Force push, then after that he completely dominates Ezra, and it was all while ****ing around with them -- 2. against Karbin where he basically immediately slammed him on the ground with the Force.
Because it's a retarded assumption to make, as I pointed out in my previous post. You can make all the mental gymnastics you want, but as long as we don't see Vader actually fail to ragdoll assoka, or assoka shows TK feats that would logically put her out of ragdoll range it's all unsubstantiated fan theory.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
I've kind of forgotten what the original point was at this point, this whole thing is getting pretty boring and forgettable tbh
It was about whether Dooku dominated Kenobi or was just an opportune ragdoll. We could've cut out all this crap if you wouldn't be so butthurt 馃檪
Originally posted by Emperordmb
What the **** is up with people who blatantly despise a character accusing that character's fans of being so extremely biased due to their preference for the character, despite the fact that the same people levying these accusations at times seem to be even more obsessed with the character in question, but in the opposite direction. After three years on this forum, I've seen this repeat with various different characters, fans, and haters, and it's honestly pretty ****ing retarded all things considered.
Except I'm not? I always get dragged into this bullshits by the assoka wankers. Most of the time I don't even comment on her, but once I do I get wall of texts for 57 directions. Like last time, not even a week ago, I just tried to point out a fallacious argument Joker made and ended up with a 3 pages shit slingging with Beni...
Originally posted by Beniboybling
As I recall, it started with you saying Ahsoka had a faster learning curve than the Chosen One among other brain farts. Kek. 馃檪
It was started by whether assoka is a writer's pet or not, for which your reply was that she's a prodigy, as if the writers didn't make her one.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
What does the junior novelisation say about Kenobi vs Dooku?
That he could've countered the choke but it was too fast.