Originally posted by Remulous
Dude you think what you want and I will do the same. I refuse to believe that just becuase Talbaine is in DarkStalkers he can beat SF becuase if you can beat Ryu than you can just about beat everyone else too. It's like saying that Gregory the cricket can beat Terry Bogard because he is in DBZ and lives on th Kai planet where gravity is extremly intense.
Actually, I gave you detailed reasons which you ignored.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarI did not ignore it. But how in the hell do those feats equate to beating Ryu? None of those are physical feats of him actual doing any thing. You mean to tell me that in the DS universe Ryu would be below Class C?
Actually, I gave you detailed reasons which you ignored.
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To fight against these creatures,
having a fit body, martial arts skills and fire arms are not enough. It is
possible for a class C creature to kill an entire army of first class elite
soldiers.
So what do you need? Talbaine seems to be extremly simillar Ryu exept for the fact that he's a ware wolf.
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A strong mind/spirit is needed to keep one self from losing their
own sanity is needed.
So Talbain has that yet Ryu doesn't, even thoe Ryu expeled his dark side the same way Talbain did.
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And a dark heart is needed so that they are not poisoned
with the aura that the creatures give off.
I don't think that those l creatures will effect Ryu with their aura, Ryu has an extremly strong mind and spirit. Even if the aura does work Ryu wont die he'll just turn into Dark Ryu.I find it strange that Talbain defeated his dark side yet he was uneffected by the atmosphere of Makai.
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So, just by being in his presence, Ryu is in a disadvantage. Nevermind that a C class darkstalker can kill an army. Jon Taliban is a warrior of makai so that makes him B Class. Not, to mention they can defy the laws of physics by fighting vertically up walls. So, how does ryu win?
I don't think so. Talbain a B class? His fathers side of the family were wariors of Makai, not him. You cant just assume his class, he never even fought for Makai. Talbain is in the human world now. He doesn't even posses a dark poisoness arua, which is why he can enteract with humans with out them dying. In fact Talbain never had an aura, he's a half breed, not a full darkstalker. He wasn't even born in Makai, he was born in the human world in England. So how is it a being foreign to Makai can enter it with no problem, Talbain, yet Ryu can't and they both have strong minds and spirits and a darker side? And Ryu can basicly climb verticliy up walls as well, also climbing verticly up wall is definently not a huge advantage, especialy since Ryu can through balls of destructive chi.
Originally posted by Remulous
I did not ignore it. But how in the hell do those feats equate to beating Ryu? None of those are physical feats of him actual doing any thing. You mean to tell me that in the DS universe Ryu would be below Class C?
Originally posted by Remulous
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To fight against these creatures,
having a fit body, martial arts skills and fire arms are not enough. It is
possible for a class C creature to kill an entire army of first class elite
soldiers.So what do you need? Talbaine seems to be extremly simillar Ryu exept for the fact that he's a ware wolf.
The fact he's a darkstalker gives him a massive advantage
Originally posted by Remulousquote:
A strong mind/spirit is needed to keep one self from losing their
own sanity is needed.So Talbain has that yet Ryu doesn't, even thoe Ryu expeled his dark side the same way Talbain did..
Originally posted by Remulousquote:
And a dark heart is needed so that they are not poisoned
with the aura that the creatures give off.I don't think that those l creatures will effect Ryu with their aura, Ryu has an extremly strong mind and spirit. Even if the aura does work Ryu wont die he'll just turn into Dark Ryu.I find it strange that Talbain defeated his dark side yet he was uneffected by the atmosphere of Makai.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
The fact he's a darkstalker gives him a massive advantage
The fact that Ryu is a human in the human world is an advantage.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Is ryu a darkstalker?
No, but is Talbaine a human?
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Taliba, did not defeat his darkside, and what evidence can you offer
showing me that ryu would transform into his dark side?
So then who was Talbain's boss in DarkStalkers 3, in fact he was the only 1 in that game that didnt't have to fight Jedah. He fought a weird glowing evil version of himself. Also, what proof do you have that Ryu wont turn into Dark Ryu, it seems to me that when ever Ryu is subjected to darkness or intense negative power he transforms using the Satsui No Hadou.
Originally posted by Remulous
The fact that Ryu is a human in the human world is an advantage.
Originally posted by Remulous
No, but is Talbaine a human?
Originally posted by Remulous
So then who was Talbain's boss in DarkStalkers 3, in fact he was the only 1 in that game that didnt't have to fight Jedah. He fought a weird glowing evil version of himself.
He was in 2 games, not 1.
Originally posted by Remulous
Also, what proof do you have that Ryu wont turn into Dark Ryu, it seems to me that when ever Ryu is subjected to darkness or intense negative power he transforms using the Satsui No Hadou.
No, he doesn't, and I don't have to prove anything. you made a claim, you offer proof. I can't prove a negative.
You know you guys argue alot about proff of this and proff of that, Here is my oppinoin since this is the gouki vs Hanma topic we stick to that.
I havent read the manga because i cant seem to download it anywhere but i saw the anime both of them and here is my oppinion because that is all I have.
Hanma has a darkness inside of him that and the fact he has huge amount of strength. Gouki has a huge amont of manifested chi energy and is capable of fighting toe to toe with someone the caliber of hanma without using his full strength i mean look at his battle with gen he never transfored to shin akuma witch is his true form and they fought to a stand still in there first incounter. and the same with oro while oro had his hand tied.
the parallel is hanma and orochi fought with orochi having the upperhand till hanma unlished his ogre power.
this makes it seem like hanma with his ogre power would fight to a stand still with gouki, and with gouki becoming shin aka true gouki he would beat hanma but possibly kill him because he would face him at his strongest and beat him meaning he was a worth opponent but must die, like his quate to lose is to give up on living.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarYes it is, DarkStalkers are Weaker outside of Makai, humans are not.
no, it's not.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarDoesn't matter, he's not hole human and does not posses the best of both worlds.
He's half human, but his darkside took over.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarWho was in 2 games?
He was in 2 games, not 1.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarYes he does and you made claim that my claim is incorrect, if you feel that you don't have to prove anything, neither will I. This has gone on long enough and has nothing to do with this thread.
No, he doesn't, and I don't have to prove anything. you made a claim, you offer proof. I can't prove a negative.