which immortality would you rather have?

Started by Metalmanx8 pages

Logan was born in the late 1800s, if I recall correctly. Mystique is, in fact, older than him. She just doesn't have as many interesting story lines from her past.

Hell, just look at "The Draco" story arc. Look at that time that she is living in when she first meets Azazel. That's waaaaaay old. Much older than Logan.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Logan was born in the late 1800s, if I recall correctly. Mystique is, in fact, older than him. She just doesn't have as many interesting story lines from her past.

Hell, just look at "The Draco" story arc. Look at that time that she is living in when she first meets Azazel. That's waaaaaay old. Much older than Logan.


no it not I have the draco series there no indecation she older in it

Originally posted by capt it up
no it not I have the draco series there no indecation she older in it

Then go read it again. Look at the era she is living in. Seriously. Look at it. I know you can tell that the era she's living in is older than before Wolverine was even born. Come on, man.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Then go read it again. Look at the era she is living in. Seriously. Look at it. I know you can tell that the era she's living in is older than before Wolverine was even born. Come on, man.

which issue?

Originally posted by capt it up
which issue?

I believe it's the very first issue of "The Draco". Uncanny X-Men #428.

But you know what? I was wrong about something. I just read the issue description again (even though I own it), and apparently it states the whole thing took place about 20 years ago. Not sure how I missed that when I read it. I think what threw me off was just the appearance of the location. It looked really medieval, ya know? Look at it again and see if you don't agree with me. Eh, it's weird. I guess that issue is not the proof I need then. I continue my search.

Well, Id say Mystique and Logan are about the same, with Mystique being a bit older, seeing as Logan was something like 10 in the turn of the 20th century, and Mystique was already like 20-40:
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=79&page=2

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Well, Id say Mystique and Logan are about the same, with Mystique being a bit older, seeing as Logan was something like 10 in the turn of the 20th century, and Mystique was already like 20-40:
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=79&page=2
Additionally it's hinted that Mystique in the MU is the inspiration for Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes novels in a way. Destiny's real name is Irene Adler, and meets Mystique around the same time as Doyle published "A Scandal in Bohemia." with the character of the same name.

Im going to have to agree with Metalmanx, so far everything I've read about this supposed Wolverine being immortal just sounds this side of retarded. The deadpool and thanos immortality arc makes sense. Thanos wants Death, but Death and DP have their own thing. Thanos is jealous of DP and curses him with immortal life so he can never have death. If thanos cant have her, no one can.

Think of it this way if it still doesnt sense, that hot chick in school you always wanted to date, but couldnt because of her boyfriend and it pissed you off. Jealously...same applies to the DP arc.

Wolverine has no reason to be immortal.

If he can FULLY regenerate from 1 cell, in order to kill him you would have to completely destroy every part of him, adamantium and all. Just because you kill him, does not mean that youve destroyed every cell in his body, therefor he can regenerate and "come back to life". That isnt immortality, thats his HF, no more no less.

Who knows, maybe Death just has a soft side for Logan? Wouldn't be the first time some abstract chooses an mortal to favor...

Well if thats the case, we better make sure no ones got an STD, or shes gonna be infecting the entire MU!

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Well, Id say Mystique and Logan are about the same, with Mystique being a bit older, seeing as Logan was something like 10 in the turn of the 20th century, and Mystique was already like 20-40:
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=79&page=2

thats hard to say seeing as how even if mystigue was 10 she could simply make her self look older

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Im going to have to agree with Metalmanx, so far everything I've read about this supposed Wolverine being immortal just sounds this side of retarded.

Why? I wanna know why it retarded for logan to be immortal.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
The deadpool and thanos immortality arc makes sense.

Wait so thanos making deadpool immortal because he jealous makes more sense then Logan being born immortal? By your logic mister immortal makes no sense, nor does Adam from clan destine.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Thanos wants Death, but Death and DP have their own thing. Thanos is jealous of DP and curses him with immortal life so he can never have death. If thanos cant have her, no one can.

So that makes more sense then wolverine being born immortal? Wait so death falling in love with deadpool and then thanos getting jealous and turn him immortal makes more sense? If any thing they make about the same sense or deadpool’s makes less sense.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Think of it this way if it still doesn’t sense, that hot chick in school you always wanted to date, but couldnt because of her boyfriend and it pissed you off. Jealously...same applies to the DP arc

So I make hi immortal? .

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Wolverine has no reason to be immortal.

Why not? Why does he have no reason to be immortal? Being born it is not enough?

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
If he can FULLY regenerate from 1 cell, in order to kill him you would have to completely destroy every part of him, adamantium and all. Just because you kill him, does not mean that youve destroyed every cell in his body, therefor he can regenerate and "come back to life". That isnt immortality, thats his HF, no more no less.

You never read the issue did you. Logan soul leaves his body when his body dies and then he has a chooses and if he decides to go back to the living world his body will regenerate no matter if there nothing to regenerate.

Originally posted by capt it up
thats hard to say seeing as how even if mystigue was 10 she could simply make her self look older
🤨 That's not exactly sound logic. For one thing active mutant powers do not usually develop until puberty despite physical mutations that may be apparent from birth. Additionally she had the mental maturity to engage with Irene Adler. If anything it's more likely that she's older than she looks considering she's maintained this appearance for the remainder of her adult life thus far.

Originally posted by capt it up
thats hard to say seeing as how even if mystigue was 10 she could simply make her self look older

Too bad the X-gene RARELY shows itself before puberty. And the age of 10 is not quite puberty just yet.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
🤨 That's not exactly sound logic. For one thing active mutant powers do not usually develop until puberty despite physical mutations that may be apparent from birth. Additionally she had the mental maturity to engage with Irene Adler. If anything it's more likely that she's older than she looks considering she's maintained this appearance for the remainder of her adult life thus far.

My point exactly.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
🤨 That's not exactly sound logic. For one thing active mutant powers do not usually develop until puberty despite physical mutations that may be apparent from birth. Additionally she had the mental maturity to engage with Irene Adler. If anything it's more likely that she's older than she looks considering she's maintained this appearance for the remainder of her adult life thus far.

she like night crawler ahs had her abilities sicne birth.

also if you look at dark crawler link it said logan new her back then there no indecation she older from the link at all.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Too bad the X-gene RARELY shows itself before puberty. And the age of 10 is not quite puberty just yet.

to bad she like ngith crawler had her abilitlies since brith if im not mistaken as did beast

Originally posted by capt it up
she like night crawler ahs had her abilities sicne birth.

also if you look at dark crawler link it said logan new her back then there no indecation she older from the link at all.

She hasn't been able to morph into other people since birth, she had her physical mutations. Likewise I'm pretty sure Nightcrawler couldn't teleport as a baby.

It says Logan knew her when she was going to assassinate Hitler, not when she befriended Irene Adler.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She hasn't been able to morph into other people since birth, she had her physical mutations. Likewise I'm pretty sure Nightcrawler couldn't teleport as a baby.

It says Logan knew her when she was going to assassinate Hitler, not when she befriended Irene Adler.


wait are you trying to say she had one mutation, but not the other? if that was the case she and night crawler would both of had a secondary mutation which I know they do not.

Also even still the time frame they said she met Irene adler logan was already a full grown man.

Originally posted by capt it up
wait are you trying to say she had one mutation, but not the other? if that was the case she and night crawler would both of had a secondary mutation which I know they do not.

Also even still the time frame they said she met Irene adler logan was already a full grown man.

It's not a secondary mutation, it's still their primary mutation that manifests at puberty.