Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's not a secondary mutation, it's still their primary mutation that manifests at puberty.
Originally posted by capt it upNo if you gain additional mutations to your primary mutation, normally after puberty after your initial mutations have manifested, then it's a secondary mutation. Storm didn't gain the power to control weather until her teen years. White hair and blue eyes isn't exactly natural for a black woman.
No if your born with a mutation and then you gain another one later on it a secondary mutation. She was born with the ability to shape shift and so was night crawler born with the ability to teleport
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
No if you gain additional mutations to your primary mutation, normally after puberty after your initial mutations have manifested, then it's a secondary mutation. Storm didn't gain the power to control weather until her teen years. White hair and blue eyes isn't exactly natural for a black woman.
Originally posted by capt it upYes it's part of his powerset. But the rest of his primary powerset didn't manifest until puberty like pretty much all mutations that aren't purely physical. Unless you know of issues where a baby Nightcrawler can teleport?
yes but there not un heard of. Some one being blue and furring now thats un heard of and is a mutation.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes it's part of his powerset. But the rest of his primary powerset didn't manifest until puberty like pretty much all mutations that aren't purely physical. Unless you know of issues where a baby Nightcrawler can teleport?
Originally posted by capt it upBeast had only a physical mutation. Notice above "that aren't purely physical".
I will see if I can find one. Also when wa sit every said he was unable to gain his teleportation to puberty if any thing he like beats was born as a mutant. NOT ALL mutants gains there abilities during puberty SOME are BORN with it.
Originally posted by Soljer
Does it REALLY matter whether Logan can die of old age or not? 😬. Why is it such a debate? There is really not much evidence to prove either side.
see, in a question about which type of immortality one would want, this is the most important question to me
If they both do not age, I'd go with Deadpool's without question. There is no chace that you will loose the fight or be tempted into the light, eternal life.
If they do age, I want to go with Wolvie. Imagine, even if it took 60 000 years, being wolverine aged to the equivelent of a 140 year old mortal. Being immortal at that point would be a curse, your body would be destroying itself but the soul would be trapped. In this case, being able to choose the light or die in a fight would be much more preferable.
Still, its all about the Man-Thing immortality. As long as there is a swamp at the Nexus, he will be there...
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Beast had only a physical mutation. Notice above "that aren't purely physical".
Originally posted by capt it up
to bad she like ngith crawler had her abilitlies since brith if im not mistaken as did beast
Too bad I said "RARELY". Mystique couldn't morph until that power manifested in puberty. Do you have proof to say otherwise? Nightcrawler (aside from that weird, nonsensical BAMF during "The Draco"😉 most likely couldn't teleport before puberty. And only Beast's first part of his mutation appeared at birth. The other (fur, claws, more animalistic, etc.) was unlocked during an experiment
Originally posted by capt it up
again if you get your mutations at a later date they are secondary mutations. That means it imposssiable for night crawler or raven to of mutated later becuase then they them self would have secondary mutations which they do not
When did you become THE word of Marvel? What says that they don't have secondary mutations? It makes a lot of sense.
Kurt was born blue and furry, with three toes, three toes and fingers, and yellow eyes. His ability to teleport manifested during puberty.
Hank was born bigger and stronger than any other child. However, his other mutations appeared later during his teen years.
Polaris was born with green hair (I assume) and manifested her powers in puberty.
Now, what's the problem with them having secondary mutations?
Why? I wanna know why it retarded for logan to be immortal
If logan can regenerate from a single cell, there is no point in the matter.
Theres a reasonable story line behind DP's reason for being immortal, not because he choses to, or fights someone in purgatory.
Why not? Why does he have no reason to be immortal? Being born it is not enough?
He DOESN'T need to be. Therefor there is no reason for it. He can regenerate from a single cell. The adamantium is bonding to his bones. You would have to completely destroy him and the adamantium in order to remove EVERY cell. Thats not going to happen with an unbreakable admantium surrounding your bones.
You never read the issue did you. Logan soul leaves his body when his body dies and then he has a chooses and if he decides to go back to the living world his body will regenerate no matter if there nothing to regenerate.
You didn't read my post did you? His soul makes two bits of difference. When his body "dies" was it fully destroyed, obliderated into nothing? With an unbreakable skeleton, I doubt it, therefor off his being able to regenerate from 1 cell, would mean with enough time, he would be alive again.
If you need to further understand what im talking about, check DP when he gets his heart ripped out, he DIES. Regeneration kicks in, and back alive he comes. In Secret Wars, wolvering gets his heart exploded. He DIES, regeneration kicks in, and back alive he comes. As long as there is a cell, he can/will regenerate. Therefor immortality for him has no point.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
If logan can regenerate from a single cell, there is no point in the matter.Theres a reasonable story line behind DP's reason for being immortal, not because he choses to, or fights someone in purgatory.
He DOESN'T need to be. Therefor there is no reason for it. He can regenerate from a single cell. The adamantium is bonding to his bones. You would have to completely destroy him and the adamantium in order to remove EVERY cell. Thats not going to happen with an unbreakable admantium surrounding your bones.
You didn't read my post did you? His soul makes two bits of difference. When his body "dies" was it fully destroyed, obliderated into nothing? With an unbreakable skeleton, I doubt it, therefor off his being able to regenerate from 1 cell, would mean with enough time, he would be alive again.
If you need to further understand what im talking about, check DP when he gets his heart ripped out, he DIES. Regeneration kicks in, and back alive he comes. In Secret Wars, wolvering gets his heart exploded. He DIES, regeneration kicks in, and back alive he comes. As long as there is a cell, he can/will regenerate. Therefor immortality for him has no point.
so what? Marvel is all about the metaphysical new age stuff these days
did you read the other?
seriously, this is no more stupid than "are you a man who wanted to become a spider, or a spider who wanted to become a man".
Im not putting forth an arguement of his soul or anything relating to it, it references back to religion and that isnt a topic for discussion here. What I was referring to as being "stupid" is just handing Wolverine "immortaltiy" for no reason, when he doesnt need it. Wades has a story behind it a legitimate one at that. He wasnt handed it to decide if he "Wants to die or not". It was given to him as a curse.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
When did you become THE word of Marvel? What says that they don't have secondary mutations? It makes a lot of sense.Kurt was born blue and furry, with three toes, three toes and fingers, and yellow eyes. His ability to teleport manifested during puberty.
Hank was born bigger and stronger than any other child. However, his other mutations appeared later during his teen years.
Polaris was born with green hair (I assume) and manifested her powers in puberty.
Now, what's the problem with them having secondary mutations?
did I ever say I was the word of marvel?
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Im not putting forth an arguement of his soul or anything relating to it, it references back to religion and that isnt a topic for discussion here. What I was referring to as being "stupid" is just handing Wolverine "immortaltiy" for no reason, when he doesnt need it. Wades has a story behind it a legitimate one at that. He wasnt handed it to decide if he "Wants to die or not". It was given to him as a curse.
My point...I never said one was better than the other, I said DP's had a legitimate reason behind it. Due to his healing he doesnt need it, but was cursed with it so he COULDN'T be with death. Why was Wolverine given his? Just because? Wolverine regenerating from one cell is why I stated his doesnt need immortality, he isnt being cursed with it for a reason so what is the point? His regenerating from one cell is immortality enough, he doesnt need any help in staying alive.
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
My point...I never said one was better than the other, I said DP's had a legitimate reason behind it. Due to his healing he doesnt need it, but was cursed with it so he COULDN'T be with death. Why was Wolverine given his? Just because? Wolverine regenerating from one cell is why I stated his doesnt need immortality, he isnt being cursed with it for a reason so what is the point? His regenerating from one cell is immortality enough, he doesnt need any help in staying alive.
Do I really need to post scans of both of them "DYING" and their regeneration alone bringing them back to life? Neither of them need immortality at all, DP got his because of a story arc, Wolverine was handed his just because, thats what I was referring to as being "stupid". The words "I dislike or hate Wolverine" were never typed in any of my post, im actually a fan of his. Like I said neither of them need it as both have died and came back, if scans are necessary I can get them. Deadpools has a story arc behind it and he wasnt just handed his for the hell of it, hence why I said DP's made sense and Wolvies didnt.