What Comic People Have Died And Came Back The Most? · Comic Books

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by capt it up
really now? how would you knwo that? he come abck from the dead on 4 occassions at least would you like me to name then for you?
I don't care if you don't like it does that make it any less fact?

He's never come back from just a skeleton before. His healing factor's been taxed many times before from healing small injuries multiple times. He's never shown this level of regeneration before.

And you don't seem to be getting my point yet again- whether or not it actually happened doesn't mean it makes sense. This is a prime example: it happened, but it didn't make sense and just feels like a cop-out from the writer. Hence, every one's problem with it.

I need more than just a few random writers hinting that he's immortal to justify him healing from a skeleton. I need something to explain HOW he came back from a skeleton. Just saying he can't die without any thing else to go with it just isn't going to do it.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by capt it up
No biggy a lot of people said that as well I am not sure why every one thinks that was what was said.

Cool.
Originally posted by capt it up True how ever I doubt he will lose. If any thing logan will find away to defeat him for good. Also in the issue it said he was not always there so back before he killed the guy he simply just choose.

Yes but doubting that he will ever lose is speculation. He still only has the POTENTIAL for immortality. He never came back after King Thor killed him.
Originally posted by capt it up Who said he died early in the battle? Wolverine died about a panel or 2 before thing and hulk which means he died a second or two before them.

The comic said that he died early in the battle. The heroes jumped out, Wolverine slashed at Thor, and Thor reduced him to a skeleton with an eye blast. Then time skipped forward(which we know because Thor says that the heroes fought with him for hours), so he died first and didn't come back the entire time.
Originally posted by capt it up Maybe maybe not I am not really sure because logan only died a few seconds before hulk and thing

I already addressed this. Wolverine died HOURS before Hulk and Thing(well, at least hours before some of the heroes, we're not sure who died in what order other than Wolverine, because most of the fight took place during the time skip).
Originally posted by capt it up No he died it was stated by jean in an annual after they found out wolverine was Death.

I'll check it out.
Originally posted by capt it up I look them up when I get home I do not have my comics at school.

Ok.
Originally posted by capt it up In you opinion.

Exactly.
Originally posted by capt it up In issue 48 when logans talking about the times he died it shows the picture in the back round if I am not mistaken.

I'll check it out.
Originally posted by capt it up Yes, because on the forum character fighting out of there abilities is PIS. How ever PIS does not stand to when an author gives or reveals a characters abilities.

Yes but PIS moments aren't all I mention. I also mentioned things like the "Clone Saga" of Spiderman. And another BS writing of abilities Supes T-Vo. Bad story arcs and wild abilities are ALL open to criticism along with incidents of PIS. That doesn't mean that their not true occurrences or legitimate facts, but bad writing of any form is subject to criticism. And that's what Wolverine's potential immortality is, bad writing. I'm not trying to sway you to my way of thinking or deny that Wolverine isn't potentially immortal, I'm simply stating my opinion on the matter and criticizing the writers. Feel free to disagree.
Originally posted by capt it up Yes how ever on the forum that is PIS.

Which is one form of bad writing.

Originally posted by capt it up Yes how ever it still fact even on the forum’s. It not a battle or a fight so there no PIS because the writer is revealing logans powers.

He's revealing what I(and many others) consider to be a BS ability. That's why it's being criticized by so many. Our criticism doesn't change the fact, but we have every tight to do so(just as much as you have to support the fact).

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
Cool.
Yes but doubting that he will ever lose is speculation. He still only has the POTENTIAL for immortality. He never came back after King Thor killed him.
The comic said that he died early in the battle. The heroes jumped out, Wolverine slashed at Thor, and Thor reduced him to a skeleton with an eye blast. Then time skipped forward(which we know because Thor says that the heroes fought with him for hours), so he died first and didn't come back the entire time.
I already addressed this. Wolverine died HOURS before Hulk and Thing(well, at least hours before some of the heroes, we're not sure who died in what order other than Wolverine, because most of the fight took place during the time skip).
I'll check it out.
Ok.
Exactly.
I'll check it out.
Yes but PIS moments aren't all I mention. I also mentioned things like the "Clone Saga" of Spiderman. And another BS writing of abilities Supes T-Vo. Bad story arcs and wild abilities are ALL open to criticism along with incidents of PIS. That doesn't mean that their not true occurrences or legitimate facts, but bad writing of any form is subject to criticism. And that's what Wolverine's potential immortality is, bad writing. I'm not trying to sway you to my way of thinking or deny that Wolverine isn't potentially immortal, I'm simply stating my opinion on the matter and criticizing the writers. Feel free to disagree.
Which is one form of bad writing.
He's revealing what I(and many others) consider to be a BS ability. That's why it's being criticized by so many. Our criticism doesn't change the fact, but we have every tight to do so(just as much as you have to support the fact).

I am gunna pick up the thor issue when i get a chance.

I don't care if you all disagree how ever it can't be written off as PIS becuase it not the same type of thing. It a stated power that like trying to say spiderman ahs no stingers or his spider senses is not that good as it truly is. power are not able to be written of as PIS not when it revealing an ability.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Accel
He's never come back from just a skeleton before. His healing factor's been taxed many times before from healing small injuries multiple times. He's never shown this level of regeneration before.
And you don't seem to be getting my point yet again- whether or not it actually happened doesn't mean it makes sense. This is a prime example: it happened, but it didn't make sense and just feels like a cop-out from the writer. Hence, every one's problem with it.
I need more than just a few random writers hinting that he's immortal to justify him healing from a skeleton. I need something to explain HOW he came back from a skeleton. Just saying he can't die without any thing else to go with it just isn't going to do it.

He can't die and his body regenerates what don't you get? He has a healign factor in his DNA as Long as his soul remains his body will heal it self. Logan ehaled froma skeleton in venom on the run. He came back from the dead in x-men annual the issue after they find out logan is death.

He immortal and just becuase u dislike the writting won't change his stated ability.

also why don't you eevr have problems with deadpool healing from impossable things or hulk heal from a skeleton?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by capt it up
I am gunna pick up the thor issue when i get a chance.
I don't care if you all disagree how ever it can't be written off as PIS becuase it not the same type of thing. It a stated power that like trying to say spiderman ahs no stingers or his spider senses is not that good as it truly is. power are not able to be written of as PIS not when it revealing an ability.

You misunderstand. I'm not trying to write it off as PIS. I'm criticizing the writer for being a moron. And I'm criticizing Marvel for being so stupid(by giving Wolverine BS healing feats that needed to be explained away) as to make such a recton necessary. I mean, your right in saying that it's established that he's potentially immortal, there's no denying that. But I think it was the wrong direction to go with his character, and I think whoever came up with the entire concept is a moron. THAT'S where my criticism stems from.

And bigbran has that issue of Thor, I'll have him post the relevant pages when he get's back online.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
You misunderstand. I'm not trying to write it off as PIS. I'm criticizing the writer for being a moron. And I'm criticizing Marvel for being so stupid(by giving Wolverine BS healing feats that needed to be explained away) as to make such a recton necessary. I mean, your right in saying that it's established that he's potentially immortal, there's no denying that. But I think it was the wrong direction to go with his character, and I think whoever came up with the entire concept is a moron. THAT'S where my criticism stems from.
And bigbran has that issue of Thor, I'll have him post the relevant pages when he get's back online.

sounds good. also Logan healign factor was stated to be in his DNA a long time ago. The whol immortal think makes it far more blievable becuase his soul stay that is why he rengerates.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by capt it up
sounds good. also Logan healign factor was stated to be in his DNA a long time ago. The whol immortal think makes it far more blievable becuase his soul stay that is why he rengerates.

But it wouldn't be necessary to make it more believable, if they'd kept a leash on his writers that wanted him to have uber-healing in the first place. NOW they're having to cover their ass.

The funny thing, is that even though I do think of it as bad writing, I'm still grateful that the bad healing feats can't be used in debates around here. Now it's been established, when he suffers a lot of damage, he dies. Period. Whether he comes back or not is irrelevant, because at the very least his dieing represents a KO by forum rules.

bigbran Dead

Ok.

In those hours, Wolverine never came back.
Also, those scans happen in a row, so those are 3 pages, and they happen right after one another.
(sorry about the wait)

Accel Senior Member

Originally posted by capt it up
He can't die and his body regenerates what don't you get? He has a healign factor in his DNA as Long as his soul remains his body will heal it self. Logan ehaled froma skeleton in venom on the run. He came back from the dead in x-men annual the issue after they find out logan is death.

I'm aware of his ability to heal, but if there's nothing for him to heal from (ie some skin or muscles or organs) then it doesn't make any sense.

As for the Venom run, we never actually saw him turn into a skeleton. His pants weren't even damaged in that scenario, so saying he was reduced to a askeleton is just silly.

Originally posted by capt it up
He immortal and just becuase u dislike the writting won't change his stated ability.

Good lord, have you even been paying attention to what I'm saying? I'm not disputing that it happened, I'm saying it doesn't add up and I feel cheated out of an explanation behind him healing from a skeleton.

If his soul is going to stick around after his body has been destroyed, I prefer the idea of him being reincarnated than having him heal in a way that makes no sense to his character whatsoever.

Originally posted by capt it up
also why don't you eevr have problems with deadpool healing from impossable things or hulk heal from a skeleton?

I already told you about Deadpool's HF- it was given to him by Thanos, who has powerful cosmic powers. If the same applied to Wolverine, this wouldn;t bother me, nor any one else at all.

And comparing Wolverine's regenrative abilities to Hulk's isn't going to get you any where, especially seeing as how unlike Wolverine, Hulk's healign factor has conistently been shown at high levels. Even Maestro coming back from practically nothing had a similar, yet better explanation behind it to Wolverine's recent healing feat.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Accel
Even Maestro coming back from practically nothing had a similar, yet better explanation behind it to Wolverine's recent healing feat.

Yup, also since he actually could use the cells in his bones (in other words, not covered/bonded/whatever the hell you want to call it, in adamantium), and it also took him a while.

darthgoober Senior Member

Nevermind, bigbran beat me to it.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nevermind, bigbran beat me to it.

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capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Accel
I'm aware of his ability to heal, but if there's nothing for him to heal from (ie some skin or muscles or organs)

Cells since his healing factor is in his DNA and Cells.

Originally posted by Accel
then it doesn't make any sense.

Yet it makes sense for deadpool to heal instantly from a puddle?

Originally posted by Accel
As for the Venom run, we never actually saw him turn into a skeleton. His pants weren't even damaged in that scenario, so saying he was reduced to a askeleton is just silly.

Actually yes we do. I was not talking about the nuke I was talking about the robot when he blasted wolverine into a skeleton.

Originally posted by Accel
Good lord, have you even been paying attention to what I'm saying? I'm not disputing that it happened, I'm saying it doesn't add up and I feel cheated out of an explanation behind him healing from a skeleton.

Cool. Maybe they will explain it more in later issues.

Originally posted by Accel
If his soul is going to stick around after his body has been destroyed, I prefer the idea of him being reincarnated than having him heal in a way that makes no sense to his character whatsoever.

? how does that make no sense to the character? He a mutant who has a superhuman healing factor and is immortal. Makes perfect senses.

Originally posted by Accel
I already told you about Deadpool's HF- it was given to him by Thanos, who has powerful cosmic powers. If the same applied to Wolverine, this wouldn;t bother me, nor any one else at all.

Wait a sec deadpool was only given immortality from thanos not his healing factor. There is no reason for why his healing factor was upgraded. Being immortal has nothing to do with deadpool healing far faster then when he was not immortal.

Originally posted by Accel
And comparing Wolverine's regenrative abilities to Hulk's isn't going to get you any where, especially seeing as how unlike Wolverine, Hulk's healign factor has conistently been shown at high levels. Even Maestro coming back from practically nothing had a similar, yet better explanation behind it to Wolverine's recent healing feat.

Yet it been shown as low before.

Also logan a mutant the more he uses his ability the stronger it becomes so it makes senses that his healing kept getting stronger and stronger

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
Yup, also since he actually could use the cells in his bones (in other words, not covered/bonded/whatever the hell you want to call it, in adamantium), and it also took him a while.

the adamatium in logans body does not interfear with the cells normal functions. so ya the adamatium would not have stopped logans cells.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by capt it up
the adamatium in logans body does not interfear with the cells normal functions. so ya the adamatium would not have stopped logans cells.

Wait, so the adamantium is porous? wouldn't that mean that it should have destroyed all the cells of his bones also, leaving only the shell that covered them?

bigbran Dead

Hate to but in...

Originally posted by capt it up
Yet it makes sense for deadpool to heal instantly from a puddle?

Deadpool's healing factor is better than Wolve's, and also Deadpool had cells to regenerate from.
When Wolverine was a skeleton, where did his DNA come from, where did his cells come from, so he was able to regenerate, they didn't.
The nuke wiped out everything, except his skeleton. Last I heard, adamantium was indestructable, and his skeleton was under that, so where did he get a cell to regenerate from?
And if they do come out, like I heard from someone else a while ago, then shouldn't the immense heat, have went in there and wiped out any sign of DNA/cells?
(damnit, Darth beat me to it!)

Originally posted by capt it up
? how does that make no sense to the character? He a mutant who has a superhuman healing factor and is immortal. Makes perfect senses.

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Originally posted by capt it up
Wait a sec deadpool was only given immortality from thanos not his healing factor. There is no reason for why his healing factor was upgraded. Being immortal has nothing to do with deadpool healing far faster then when he was not immortal.

Deadpool was able to heal his heart in a little bit before his curse, his healing factor was never upgraded. He was never completely disintegrated, or healed, when he had nothing to heal from, so when did his healing factor get upgraded?
It is also based off of his will.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait, so the adamantium is porous? wouldn't that mean that it should have destroyed all the cells of his bones also, leaving only the shell that covered them?

I don't know I not sure how hot adamtium gets not that it matter. I happened. though the red light it logans eyes seem to show that there must of been some cells or such left.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
Deadpool's healing factor is better than Wolve's,

Yes it was not until he was immortal,. It really makes no senses how he could of gotten such a healing factor up grade since he know mutant so his powers should remain at the level given to him.

Originally posted by bigbran
and also Deadpool had cells to regenerate from.

Yes but the rate in which he heals makes no senses.

Originally posted by bigbran
When Wolverine was a skeleton, where did his DNA come from, where did his cells come from, so he was able to regenerate, they didn't.

They may have been in his skeleton I do not know maybe his body was recarnated in sorts.

Originally posted by bigbran
The nuke wiped out everything, except his skeleton. Last I heard, adamantium was indestructable, and his skeleton was under that, so where did he get a cell to regenerate from?

His skeleton has cells in it you know.

Originally posted by bigbran
And if they do come out, like I heard from someone else a while ago, then shouldn't the immense heat, have went in there and wiped out any sign of DNA/cells?
(damnit, Darth beat me to it!)

Not sure if adamtium heats up the same.

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Originally posted by bigbran
Deadpool was able to heal his heart in a little bit before his curse,

Logan healed his heart in 5 panels if I am not mistaken.

Originally posted by bigbran
his healing factor was never upgraded.

Really no so why can deadpool now heal from being a puddle almost instantly?

Originally posted by bigbran
He was never completely disintegrated, or healed, when he had nothing to heal from, so when did his healing factor get upgraded?
It is also based off of his will.

Yes after he was turned immortal he started healing from any thing almost instantly like when he got eaten.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by capt it up
Yes it was not until he was immortal,. It really makes no senses how he could of gotten such a healing factor up grade since he know mutant so his powers should remain at the level given to him.

Deadpool's healing factor was used to be a replacement for Wolverine's, but when it started to get more powerful, they donned him as a failure, if I'm not mistaken.
So, maybe Deadpool's goes up, if that is what the past dictates.
Also, I don't see any changes.

Originally posted by capt it up
Yes but the rate in which he heals makes no senses.

He has always healed fast.

Originally posted by capt it up
They may have been in his skeleton I do not know maybe his body was recarnated in sorts.

Ya, maybe some pis was involved...

Originally posted by capt it up
His skeleton has cells in it you know.

Ya, but how did they get out, when the adamantium covers all his bones?
Also, if he does have pores for his skeleton, then the heat should have been able to wipe all of those out.

Originally posted by capt it up
Not sure if adamtium heats up the same.
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Not talking about heat, talking about fire, and shit getting through his supposed pores, and wiping out all his cells.

Originally posted by capt it up
Logan healed his heart in 5 panels if I am not mistaken.

I forget how fast Deadpool did.

Originally posted by capt it up
Really no so why can deadpool now heal from being a puddle almost instantly?

He has always healed fast. Also, he didn't heal that fast, actually, he was on the floor for a while, and couldn't heal, until after Cable swallowed him. That healed both Cable, and Deadpool.

Also, after the immortality, he got his ankles shattered by Rhino, and it didn't heal right away, this was after.

Originally posted by capt it up
Yes after he was turned immortal he started healing from any thing almost instantly like when he got eaten.

Is this the only example?

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
Deadpool's healing factor was used to be a replacement for Wolverine's

No they got dead pools healing factor from coping wolverines.

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Originally posted by bigbran
but when it started to get more powerful, they donned him as a failure, if I'm not mistaken.

Not only would that make no senses, but that never happened.

Originally posted by bigbran
So, maybe Deadpool's goes up, if that is what the past dictates.
Also, I don't see any changes.

No it does not and should not there no reason it should. Why would it get better it be against the character.

Originally posted by bigbran
He has always healed fast.

Yes, but not to the extent it was shown after he was made immortal.

Originally posted by bigbran
Ya, but how did they get out, when the adamantium covers all his bones?
Also, if he does have pores for his skeleton, then the heat should have been able to wipe all of those out.

We don’t know if adamatium heats up. Also wolverine adamatium does not stop his normal

Originally posted by bigbran
Not talking about heat, talking about fire, and shit getting through his supposed pores, and wiping out all his cells.

The fire would not have gotten into his pores. It was an explosion not so much fire.

Originally posted by bigbran
He has always healed fast. Also, he didn't heal that fast, actually, he was on the floor for a while, and couldn't heal, until after Cable swallowed him. That healed both Cable, and Deadpool.

His hand formed right after been puked out. It freak ridiculous. He also healed from a hand almost instantly his healing feats are ridiculous and make no sense since he never got an up grade.

Originally posted by bigbran
Also, after the immortality, he got his ankles shattered by Rhino, and it didn't heal right away, this was after.
Is this the only example?

That an extremely low end showing for him. After his was made immortal his heal feats got out of hand with out and reasoning excpt he was immortal not that he got a healing factor up grade or any thing.