Ironman vs Colossus

Started by xmarksthespot6 pages

Originally posted by Scoobless
http://www.unit-conversion.info/temperature.html

10,000 oK = 17540.33 oF

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So the required 9,000 oF = 5255.37 oK

Which is way below 50% power output for that particular armour.

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Heat dissipates over distance. He would have to stand close, stand still, and power up. Colossus would probably just dodge it and snap his head off.

He still gets melted.

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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Heat dissipates over distance. He would have to stand close, stand still, and power up. Colossus would probably just dodge it and snap his head off.

Alternativley, if Colossus acted quickly, with his level of durability, if Ironman attempts to use that attack, he doesnt even need to dodge until the heat gets pretty high, so he just steps through the beam and deals a metal fist to the head.

Within the first second of that heat based attack the temperature went above Colossus highest tolerance point.... there's no way that he can walk through it.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Heat dissipates over distance. He would have to stand close, stand still, and power up. Colossus would probably just dodge it and snap his head off.

Sorry, but there's no way he could pull that off. Iron Man is quicker than he is, and has faster reaction times. Also, the temp was 10,000 Kelvin, not 10,000 farenheight. Colossus would be a pile of melted metal with the initial blast.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Sorry, but there's no way he could pull that off. Iron Man is quicker than he is, and has faster reaction times.
Not in this thread. Conversely Colossus has enhanced speed while armoured. [/B][/QUOTE]
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Also, the temp was 10,000 Kelvin, not 10,000 farenheight. Colossus would be a pile of melted metal with the initial blast.
That wasn't the initial blast, he had to stand close, stand still and power up. Besides it couldn't melt Graviton it's not melting Colossus.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Full nelsons are pretty damm easy to get out of. I believe somebody mentioned IM being stronger than Colossus. Sh!t the handbooks even say Colossus is stronger.

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Full nelson's are easy to get out of? You can kill a man from that position with ease?

You don't know anything about unarmed combat, do you?

Ignorance must be bliss for you. You practice it quite often.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Retrains Iron Man who was unable to break Colossus' hold.(Iron Man was under the influence of a outside force but still had his abilities):

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/ColossusandIMIW2.jpg

that's just a feat for hulk if anyone... 馃槢

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Not in this thread. Conversely Colossus has enhanced speed while armoured.
That wasn't the initial blast, he had to stand close, stand still and power up. Besides it couldn't melt Graviton it's not melting Colossus. [/B][/QUOTE]

Graviton > Colossus.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
That wasn't the initial blast, he had to stand close, stand still and power up. Besides it couldn't melt Graviton it's not melting Colossus.
Graviton > Colossus.
In terms of overall power definitely. But afaik not with regard to his resistance to heat.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
In terms of overall power definitely. But afaik not with regard to his resistance to heat.

That feat there is proof that he is. 馃槓

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
That feat there is proof that he is. 馃槓
Or that the temperatures stated are just artistic license.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Or that the temperatures stated are just artistic license.

Not really. Graviton's shown in the past to have a lot of durability, considering he is a team wrecker.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Full nelson's are easy to get out of? You can kill a man from that position with ease?

You don't know anything about unarmed combat, do you?

Ignorance must be bliss for you. You practice it quite often.

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Listen Albert. If the person applying the hold to you is stronger than you are then yes they are impossible to get out of. But, if your stronger than the person applying it then you can get out of it. I mean if you're mom put me in the full-nelson I'm pretty sure I could get out of it. But if Shaq put me in it I would be dead.

Regardless he would have to stop, stand close, stand still and power up.

Dodge, crush head.

And the actual handbook entries say nothing of melting. The only time Colossus has been superheated, he's turned white hot, but I don't recall him melting.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
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Listen Albert. If the person applying the hold to you is stronger than you are then yes they are impossible to get out of. But, if your stronger than the person applying it then you can get out of it. I mean if your mom put me in the full-nelson I'm pretty sure I could get out of it. But if Shaq put me in it I would be dead.

True enough. However, when two people of similar strengths are in the hold, it is still a difficult hold to get out of, especially when someone applying it has a size advantage.

Originally posted by Ni帽oAra帽a
that's just a feat for hulk if anyone... 馃槢
Well not really. Hulk punched Colossus in the back of the head and Colossus got back up on his feet.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The only time Colossus has been superheated, he's turned white hot, but I don't recall him melting.

Yeah, but has Colossus ever been heated up as hot as the temperature in that IM pic?

And that pic of Colossus holding Iron Man in a full nelson really holds no merit because regardless if it's a doppelganger or an alien possessing Iron Man, it's still technically not Iron Man.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Heat dissipates over distance. He would have to stand close, stand still, and power up. Colossus would probably just dodge it and snap his head off.

also I know the bio says the whole he can only stand so much heat but colossus has survived becoming white hot before with out sweeting it. SO I think the bio is wrong iron man isn't taking colossus out with his blasters. However he programed his armor to have cap America fighting ability. and that will handle colosus quite nicely.

Originally posted by jasofisc
also I know the bio says the whole he can only stand so much heat but colossus has survived becoming white hot before with out sweeting it. SO I think the bio is wrong iron man isn't taking colossus out with his blasters. However he programed his armor to have cap America fighting ability. and that will handle colosus quite nicely.

He can't program his armor to have Captain America's fighting ability. That wasn't what that scene in civil war meant.

He was just mentioning that the armor recorded Captain America's movements - it gave him a pseudo 'pre-cog'.