darthgoober
Senior Member
Originally posted by Starhawk
Get the last word? What are you 12? I don't care. Feel free to post again and get the last word. You have the right to your beliefs on this subject and so do I. Difference is I choose to take the high road on it. Your whats wrong with this thread and why it has so many problems. People only respect the rights of other's to have their own opinions as long as they aren't contradictary ones. Well this may come as a shock you your system but people have the right to think and believe whatever they wish. You don't like my reasons, that's fine. But there is nothing you can say to convince me differently, hence no need to debate further.No one, and I mean NO ONE has the right to force thier beliefs and opinions on others. I think it's time we all grew up alittle and learned that lesson, I certianly have. And we can't actualy change someones mind if they don't truly believe it cause they will just say they do to get us to stop talking and in reality they will still think the same way they did before. It's pointless to even try to force them not to. All you can do in a debate is throw your ideas, beliefs and opinions out there and see what people think, it's actually funner that way.
So you can have that last word now. I hope it's everything you hoped it would be.
Why thank you, I WILL take the last word. Now to address your post, the problem your little rant, and your stance through out this entire thread in fact is fairly simple. And that problem is this, your posting on a debate forum, NOT an opinion forum. Now the way to win a debate is fairly simple, you present your case(which you have done in abundance) and then you back up that case with what we call EVIDENCE(which you have failed to do). See EVIDENCE actually changes everything. I respect many peoples opinions in a debate that don't coincide with my own as long as they have evidence to back it up. That's not to say that I'll step down from my stance on the issue, but at the end of the day I'll leave them to their opinion. Now, if you don't want to agree with me that's fine(because I certainly don't agree with you) I don't have a problem with that. However, you've taken a stance opposed to mine, and(being on a debate forum) I proceeded to ATTEMPT to engage in a civilized discussion on the issue. Unfortunately, I realized very quickly that you didn't really have a stance on the issue at hand. And not only that, you made NO attempt to actually address the issues, you immediately began to brush aside any and all points brought up as if they were beneath your notice.
So basically, WE have not been debating. I have been debating while you sat back and said "No, I'm not going to agree with you no matter what you say and no matter what evidence has been brought to light. So we're even in our stance on the issue". Well I'm sorry but it doesn't work like that in a DEBATE(you should learn what that word means). See the point of a DEBATE is not to force your views and opinions on another, it's to present your case in a clear and logical manner, back it up with proof, and therefore CONVINCE people to come to your way of thinking. You did none of those.
Now I'll leave you to your manner of illogical thinking and be done with.