Do you think it's ok that China bans religion freedom?

Originally posted by Kinneary
I think it's possible to be religious without being a zealot.

yes, its very possible to make scientific breakthroughs in spite of religious beliefs. however religion still tends to be the restricting factor and never the catalyst.

anyway, this point that everyone is debating is irrelevant to the topic. restricting religion is just another means of squashing individual freedom, which is the same motive of oppressive theocracies and attempts at such as we see in the u.s. today.

kinda like fascism and communism. both at extreme ends of the political scale, but leading to the same exact ends when we see it applied as opposed to in theory. so defending one extreme is no solution, or else its the tired old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" folly

When the topic is about whether religion can be motivation for war or bigotry, the opponents of such an assertion state that it is the people not the religion. When the topic is about whether religion can be motivation for ingenuity, the proponents of such an assertion emphasise the importance of the religion. And vice versa for proponents of the former who also often happen to be opponents of the latter.

The innovative minds, desire for knowledge and inquisitive nature would still be present in those who have achieved success in the sciences. Likewise bigots would still be bigots regardless of whether they had religion as a crutch.

Taking a more institutional view, yes the common religions generally are restrictive of scientific progress rather than supportive.

On the actual thread topic. I don't personally see the need for religion, but I don't think that the right should be taken away to practice religion, in so much as it doesn't harm others.

China has the right idea. All religions should be banned.

Looks like I'm moving to china to get away from retards.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Looks like I'm moving to china to get away from retards.

Well they will just kill you if you dont follow Communism instead.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
China has the right idea. All religions should be banned.

Originally posted by ysh227
Do you think it's ok that China bans religion freedom?

Yes. Religion sucks dirty butthole.

Good, maybe all the liberals in this country will move to China then. I'm not suprised, China is a communism.

Now, do I think it's right? Ofcourse not. But, it's not my problem. It's China, not America. My only concern is the well-being of America and it's inhabitance.

Alfheim, why are you spamming the thread with your proaganda? Science did not happen due to religion, which is basically what you're saying. And Francis Bacon's quote was that too much philosophy leads to religion, making it almost as bad. Bacon was an atheist or an agnostic, he always saw atheism as good and religion as bad.

As previously stated, this is just another tool for further government control over it's subjects. One freedom taken away today will eventually lead too more tomorrow. All those debating that China has the right idea in banning religion and taking away this right; you wouldn't be so quick to agree if they did the reverse and made religion mandatory... Why not?

Originally posted by Robtard
As previously stated, this is just another tool for further government control over it's subjects. One freedom taken away today will eventually lead to more tomorrow. All those debating that China has the right idea in banning religion and taking away this right; you wouldn't be so quick to agree if they did the reverse and made religion mandatory... Why not?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Alfheim, why are you spamming the thread with your proaganda?

What? So basically you're just going to ignore everything I put down. You're going to ignore.

Sir Isaac Newton
Einstein
Muslim inventors
Sir Thomas Edison

So basically you are a waste of time you are one of these people who just ignore things because they dont like it.

Originally posted by lord xyz

Science did not happen due to religion, which is basically what you're saying.

Er no im saying that religon has contributed alot to science.

Originally posted by lord xyz

And Francis Bacon's quote was that too much philosophy leads to religion, making it almost as bad. Bacon was an atheist or an agnostic, he always saw atheism as good and religion as bad.

Im sorry you're going to have to get me a quote for that. Wiki blantantly says he had spritual beliefs, and no that doesn't seem to be what he is saying.

Sir Francis Bacon

"The Essays: Of Atheism" that "a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy bringeth men’s minds about to religion", suggesting he continued to employ inductive reasoning in all areas of his life, including his own spiritual beliefs.

I dunno maybe im misunderstanding wiki. I thought Athiests dont have spiritual beliefs, or is wiki spreading religous propaganda?

Although I don't really like communist laws, I think China does it wise this time....
They ban religions because they are very aware that religions are the main blurs to our world, and banning religions will redu8ce more violent acts.

So if you are a liberal, and you'd like to move to a country where has less religious threats, come to Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, and Hong Kong.

Most young people really don't give a damn about religions in those Asian nations.

It's sad that US is the only nation with the best technology available, because US is such a religious nation...
I am feeling bad...

Although I really think communism is very tranic, Mr. Bush and republicans are worse.........

Come to Japan or other nations with less religious influences, you will love there....

And I think religion is such a waste in our existing world...

Do you have any idea what it's like to live in Japan?

Originally posted by Kinneary
Do you have any idea what it's like to live in Japan?

Religion is a waste

Originally posted by ysh227
Although I don't really like communist laws, I think China does it wise this time....
They ban religions because they are very aware that religions are the main blurs to our world, and banning religions will redu8ce more violent acts.

So if you are a liberal, and you'd like to move to a country where has less religious threats, come to Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, and Hong Kong.

Most young people really don't give a damn about religions in those Asian nations.

It's sad that US is the only nation with the best technology available, because US is such a religious nation...
I am feeling bad...

Although I really think communism is very tranic, Mr. Bush and republicans are worse.........

Come to Japan or other nations with less religious influences, you will love there....

And I think religion is such a waste in our existing world...

There not doing it for that reason! 🙄

i hope all the people that think telling people what they are allowed to believe in is a good idea are shipped of to ching chong chinaland.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Er no im saying that religon has contributed alot to science.

At an institutional level, religion has very often been hindrance rather than help for scientific advancement.