Keith Ellison, D-Minn. to swear on Koran...

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's not what I'm talking about, I don't give a rats ass who he believe's in. I'm saying a tradition should not be changed because the guy wants to pious and people want to be politically correct. You on the other hand keep talking about land of the free, religion, and slavery now. I dunnoo where your head is, Try to to hold it steady for one second.

if you want to debate with me, learn to read and process those words. then when you are able to actually grasp a simple point in its context you may rebutt that point if you disagree. rightnow you're just being a toolbox

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's not what I'm talking about, I don't give a rats ass who he believe's in. I'm saying a tradition should not be changed because the guy wants to pious and people want to be politically correct. You on the other hand keep talking about land of the free, religion, and slavery now. I dunnoo where your head is, Try to to hold it steady for one second.

It's not about being politically correct, he's swearing an oath on his religion, and he is free to do so.

The tradition started because the first ones being sworn into office were Christians, they chose their most meaningful book. That's the same thing this guy is doing.

You're acting as if it's the end of American culture.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
First of all, no other culture is forcing anything onto American traditions,

Bullshit

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman

he's still taking the oath, just on a book he considers more meaningful than the Bible.

I don't care what he considers more meaningful than the bible or about the bible in general. He should swear in like any other congressmen.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Bullshit

wow, what a well thought retort

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I don't care what he considers more meaningful than the bible or about the bible in general. He should swear in like any other congressmen.

says who? YOU? not the law, not the constitution, just bigot knee-jerker crybaby xenophobes, who btw are a minority. so by your logic/code on majority-rules you should now stfu

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's not what I'm talking about, I don't give a rats ass who he believe's in. I'm saying a tradition should not be changed because the guy wants to pious and people want to be politically correct. You on the other hand keep talking about land of the free, religion, and slavery now. I dunnoo where your head is, Try to to hold it steady for one second.

You're acting like this is the first time in the history of the world that someone's taken an oath on something other than the bible.

Why shouldn't traditions change? Simply because they're tradition?

It's already been stated in this thread that him taking the oath on the koran is going to be a private ceremony for him and the actual swearing in will occur with all of Congress.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar Bullshit

Prove it or shut the **** up.

I don't care what he considers more meaningful than the bible or about the bible in general. He should swear in like any other congressmen.

Not every Congressman has been sworn in through the Bible. Get your head out of your ass. Some have been sworn in through a judge.

Going to argue that weddings not done in a church with a priest are bullshit too?

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
It's not about being politically correct, he's swearing an oath on his religion, and he is free to do so.

The tradition started because the first ones being sworn into office were Christians, they chose their most meaningful book. That's the same thing this guy is doing.

You're acting as if it's the end of American culture.

I know how the tradition started, that isn't my point. My point is not a religuos one like your making it to be. Again, He should swear in like any congress man should. Swearing on the bible is simple an ornamental ritual, like I said the bible has no bearing in the agendas of the legislative body. It's only when you start substituting it for other religous text it becomes one.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
Prove it or shut the **** up.

I'm not talking this off topic, to prove to some ignoramus something that's freakin obvious.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman

Not every Congressman has been sworn in through the Bible. Get your head out of your ass. Some have been sworn in through a judge.

Going to argue that weddings not done in a church with a priest are bullshit too?

EDIT:Weddings have nothing to with government, genius.

stop flapping your lips for 15 seconds and read this because it is FACT, and the FACT is that you are 100% WRONG and should SHUT UP

Originally posted by Lana
It's already been stated in this thread that him taking the oath on the koran is going to be a private ceremony for him and the actual swearing in will occur with all of Congress.

here, it seems the psychology behind learning for some is repetition/parroting, so allow me to endulge you:

Originally posted by Lana
It's already been stated in this thread that him taking the oath on the koran is going to be a private ceremony for him and the actual swearing in will occur with all of Congress.

Originally posted by Lana
It's already been stated in this thread that him taking the oath on the koran is going to be a private ceremony for him and the actual swearing in will occur with all of Congress.

Originally posted by Lana
It's already been stated in this thread that him taking the oath on the koran is going to be a private ceremony for him and the actual swearing in will occur with all of Congress.

Originally posted by Lana
It's already been stated in this thread that him taking the oath on the koran is going to be a private ceremony for him and the actual swearing in will occur with all of Congress.

Originally posted by Lana
It's already been stated in this thread that him taking the oath on the koran is going to be a private ceremony for him and the actual swearing in will occur with all of Congress.

Originally posted by Lana
It's already been stated in this thread that him taking the oath on the koran is going to be a private ceremony for him and the actual swearing in will occur with all of Congress.

OMFG IN HEAVEN!!!!!!!!! 😖

Originally posted by PVS
stop flapping your lips for 15 seconds and read this because it is FACT, and the FACT is that you are 100% WRONG and should SHUT UP

here, it seems the psychology behind learning for some is repetition/parroting, so allow me to endulge you:

OMFG IN HEAVEN!!!!!!!!! 😖

PVS, I'm not flapoping my lips, maybe your yelling at the comp I could careless. I just read lana's post before, I didn't know that it was his own Private Ceremony. If it's private no biggie. . .

thank god 🤪

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I'm not talking this off topic, to prove to some ignoramus something that's freakin obvious.

Ugh, you obviously lack the mental capcity to get my point. It's not about the book, it only becomes an issue when you change the book and that's the problem. Swearing on the bible doesn't have any religous significance. It's only when you change the book for another religous book for the sake of being pious it becomes a religous matter.

EDIT:Weddings have nothing to with government, genius.

No, you're not going to prove it because you can't. Don't try to lie to me.

He's not doing for the sake of being pious, he's swearing on something that means something to him, which is why the Bible was used in the first place.

Yea, they do. Tax exemptions and legal status, etc etc. That's why alot of them are done with judges, and have paperwork.

And to add to PVS' meltdown, read this:

Originally posted by [i
Sithsaber[/i]]The official swearing in is with the whole congress together, and they don't even use a book.

Originally posted by [i
Sithsaber[/i]]The official swearing in is with the whole congress together, and they don't even use a book.

Originally posted by PVS
thank god faint

LOL, you took it too seriously...usaflag

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
No, you're not going to prove it because you can't. Don't try to lie to me.

I can't, this is the ****ing internet I can find so many articles proving it, stfu.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman

He's not doing for the sake of being pious, he's swearing on something that means something to him, which is why the Bible was used in the first place.

So, the bible has to mean something to you to swear on it...okay...Anyway, like I said the book should not change for another religous book unless like lana said it's a private ceromony.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman

Yea, they do. Tax exemptions and legal status, etc etc. That's why alot of them are done with judges, and have paperwork.

Tax exemptions have what to do with a ruling body of government, stop taking out of this context. Infact stop quoting me this shit is over already,lol.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Infact stop quoting me this shit is over already,lol.

He's right guys... Laws and Rights have bo business getting in the way of "traditions", even Tevye says we must stick to traditons!

"If I were a rich man, yadda-yadda-yad-da..."

I say go for it, unlike Christians, Muslims will find him and cutoff his head if they findout he lied under oath sense he mocked The Koran.

The only reason liberals like Muslims is because of the large quantity of terrorists, and like them, terrorists hate America. If it weren't for terrorism, liberals would see Islam as just another religion of anti-choice schmucks that needed to be crushed by secular progressive laws.

what a silly troll you are whob.

got aids?

Originally posted by Green Arrow
I say go for it, unlike Christians, Muslims will find him and cutoff his head if they findout he lied under oath sense he mocked The Koran.

The only reason liberals like Muslims is because of the large quantity of terrorists, and like them, terrorists hate America. If it weren't for terrorism, liberals would see Islam as just another religion of anti-choice schmucks that needed to be crushed by secular progressive laws.

Please indulge me with your insight... Why would liberals want to destroy America considering America is were they live, make their money and keep their possessions? Sounds suicidal.

why did you ask him that?