Wolverine vs. Gamora

Started by DDurand10 pages

Wolverine :

Unbreakable claws, unbreakable squeletton, magical healing power, resistance against vital point attacks...

Gamora is just another "I'm starlin and i want all characters of the world bow before my creations" character.
Yes, she cybernetically enhanced with healing factor "as powerfull as Wolverine", but Wolverine powers go upscale all the time (You say wank ?).
And i don't think cyber-machines can be repeared by an healing factor.

Yes, she was trained by Thanos, and yes Thanos is said to be wanky warrior, but in fact Thanos never demonstrated real fighting habilities (only big punch in the head against statics super heroes).

Then, Wolverine.

Magical healing power? Resistance against vital point attacks? What have you been smoking, man?

Originally posted by DDurand
Wolverine :

Unbreakable claws, unbreakable squeletton, magical healing power, resistance against vital point attacks...

Gamora is just another "I'm starlin and i want all characters of the world bow before my creations" character.
Yes, she cybernetically enhanced with healing factor "as powerfull as Wolverine", but Wolverine powers go upscale all the time (You say wank ?).
And i don't think cyber-machines can be repeared by an healing factor.

Yes, she was trained by Thanos, and yes Thanos is said to be wanky warrior, but in fact Thanos never demonstrated real fighting habilities (only big punch in the head against statics super heroes).

Then, Wolverine.

Dude,where are you from?

Magical healing power : When a character can, in less than five minutes, regenerate from BONES with complete MEMORIES, i call that MAGIC.

For the resistance against vital point attack, it's from the crossover X-men/Star Treck : Wolverine can counter-act the "finger thing" from Spock.

Originally posted by DDurand
Magical healing power : When a character can, in less than five minutes, regenerate from BONES with complete MEMORIES, i call that MAGIC.

For the resistance against vital point attack, it's from the crossover X-men/Star Treck : Wolverine can counter-act the "finger thing" from Spock.

X-Men/Star Trek? 😆

Originally posted by DDurand
Magical healing power : When a character can, in less than five minutes, regenerate from BONES with complete MEMORIES, i call that MAGIC.

For the resistance against vital point attack, it's from the crossover X-men/Star Treck : Wolverine can counter-act the "finger thing" from Spock.

Wolverine took a LOT longer than minutes to regenerate.

Good try, though.

@ Celestialdemon : Yes, a crossover X-men / Star treck, in 96.
There is even Gladiator in this comic, and he punch the Enterprise !

@ Soljer : Thank, but remember the fight with Nero, in Civil War : He regenerate in few minutes.

Originally posted by DDurand
@ Celestialdemon : Yes, a crossover X-men / Star treck, in 96.
There is even Gladiator in this comic, and he punch the Enterprise !

@ Soljer : Thank, but remember the fight with Nero, in Civil War : He regenerate in few minutes.

Nero? Nitro?

Oh, yes, Nitro. Sorry, i'm just in backup my files :-)

Originally posted by DDurand
Oh, yes, Nitro. Sorry, i'm just in backup my files :-)

Yeah, in that latest arc, I believe I've heard many people saying the writer mentioned in an interview that it took both Nitro and Wolverine hours to recover.

Originally posted by DDurand
@ Celestialdemon : Yes, a crossover X-men / Star treck, in 96.
There is even Gladiator in this comic, and he punch the Enterprise !

It's silly that this crossover actually exists and that you used it in a debate. Crossovers generally shouldn't be used because they aren't canon, and Wolverine countering Spock's "finger thing" means nothing. Gamora is simply a stronger, faster, better, more experienced fighter than Wolverine who has an equal healing factor and unbreakable bones.

Celestial, too things :

1° Cannons are the more chaotic thing that exist. I think Wanda explode if she try to use that as energy source.

2° Well, crossover are often used in vs files, you know ?

Err... 2.5° It's stated Gamora can't win against She-Hulk (i don't remind where, but it's in one of the Starlin wankery, probably with the Mage or with the Goddess) or the Thing (Gamora say that herself). I'm pretty sure Wolverine can do...
And Gamora be more experienced, faster, better, stronger...
Her only feat are to kill/defeat soldiers. But you know even "elite" soldiers are, in Marvel, pretty noobs. Oh my god, she defeated UN elite squadron ? Well, see the average level of elites soldiers in MU AND the hatred of Marvel for UN, we can't pretend it's a threat (menace ?).
Yes, we see her win against a bunch of superheroes in the Infinity story with the Mage (forgot the name), but it's a Starlin story with a classic fight "One against all". I think all the major Marvel or DC heroes have that in their book...

We can see the feat of Wolverine. We can't see a lot of Gamora.

Yes, i know Wolvy is a WW (Walking-Wankery), but Gamora is a Starlin character...

For what has mentioned the writer, that contradict what we see on panel (hours ? Why, they are on the moon ?).

And yes, sorry, but the ST/Xmen crossover exist.

Originally posted by thedude1948
I think this scan speaks for itself

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this doens´t mean anything bad writing happens all the time in comics.

Gamora stood up against Ronan. she can beat wolverine

The stab shot there was from the Infinity Crusade. She was mind controlled at the time. We all know that mind-controlled characters are especially vulnerable to jobber auras. The only reason why wolverine could possibly beat Ms. G is because he makes Marvel more money than she does.

By the by, modern Gamora isn't cybered. When Warlock resurrected them at the beginning of the IG-mini, he, she, and Pip all got super-bodies.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
The stab shot there was from the Infinity Crusade. She was mind controlled at the time.
Everyone one of thoese heroes and villains were being mind controlled, but it didn't really seem to effect their skills and personalities all that much, just their aggression... she wasn't a zombie or anything, she was well aware of who she was, it's hardly a suitable excuse for wolverine being able to hang with her... therefore he must be able to do it.

Originally posted by DDurand
Celestial, too things :

Err... 2.5° It's stated Gamora can't win against She-Hulk (i don't remind where, but it's in one of the Starlin wankery, probably with the Mage or with the Goddess) or the Thing (Gamora say that herself). I'm pretty sure Wolverine can do...

I've never read anything like that anywhere. I have quite a few of Starlin's stories, so please let me know where any of this is stated.

Originally posted by DDurand
And Gamora be more experienced, faster, better, stronger...
Her only feat are to kill/defeat soldiers. But you know even "elite" soldiers are, in Marvel, pretty noobs. Oh my god, she defeated UN elite squadron ? Well, see the average level of elites soldiers in MU AND the hatred of Marvel for UN, we can't pretend it's a threat (menace ?).
Yes, we see her win against a bunch of superheroes in the Infinity story with the Mage (forgot the name), but it's a Starlin story with a classic fight "One against all". I think all the major Marvel or DC heroes have that in their book...

Her only feat? You besides evading Thanos' attacks and hitting him with a near-fatal blow? Or her kicking Drax so hard he spits out the Power Gem? And you're right. Her defeating a bunch of superheroes is a Starlin story, written by the same Starlin you said it's stated Gamora can't beat She-Hulk or Thing. The same Starlin that wrote the Infinity Crusade where the image of Wolverine stabbing Gamora came from.

Originally posted by thedude1948
I think this scan speaks for itself

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CONTEXT!

During the Infinity War, Gamora was beating the sh*t out of Rogue AND She Hulk. It actually took the combined effort of Wolverine and Guardian(Heather), to hold her so that Strong Guy could deliver the coup de grace. She's shown proficiency with pressure point fighting(which we know Wolverine is vulnerable to, because of his lose to Daredevil) against Thing AND Thanos(although it didn't actually work on Thanos, because of his physiology). Wolverine goes down hard, against ANY version of her(but especially the current up graded version).

Oh shit. If she knows pressure point, she can take down Wolverine a good amount of victories.

Originally posted by darthgoober
During the Infinity War, Gamora was beating the sh*t out of Rogue AND She Hulk. It actually took the combined effort of Wolverine and Guardian(Heather), to hold her so that Strong Guy could deliver the coup de grace. She's shown proficiency with pressure point fighting(which we know Wolverine is vulnerable to, because of his lose to Daredevil)

that was PIS event and I can prove it. Logan taken far worse then a jabb to the adams apple. That was some of the crappiest writting ever. Logan taken swords through the neck and kept fighting yet a jabb takes him down?