Wolverine vs. Gamora

Originally posted by capt it up
No it does not if any thing a jabb is not true blunt damage. also character like wolverine and spiderman have no real piercing defenses yet there blunt defenses are quite high.

Originally posted by capt it up
I lvoe to see gamora beat cyber.

I'de love to see Wolverine beat Drax... no wait, no I wouldn't...

Originally posted by bigbran
How is a jab, not blunt damage? Does a jab cut things?
Also, blunt damage does more to Wolverine it seems... than a sword. Do you this, as in, "Gamora couldn't", or what do you mean?]

Originally posted by bigbran
[B]I'de love to see Wolverine beat Drax... no wait, no I wouldn't...

Originally posted by capt it up
No it does not. cutting damage u see him heal why blunt damage he hardly ever needs to heal beucase he dense skinn and muscles which protect him from most all blunt damage to certain point. The jabb would of done far far less damage then a freaken sword I can't believe your even argueing this.

How many muscles do people have in there throats? You don't have too much to protect yourselves there.

Originally posted by capt it up
what would she do to cyber?

She isn't odinary, she is not Cap.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Did Gamora get a boost in Annhilation or are Gamora supporters talking out of their asses?

Originally posted by bigbran
In comics, it seems that blunt damage does more. Look at Superman vs Doomsday.
Also, Wolverine seems to heal instantly from cuts, while blunt damage does more, for a more lasting effect.
No, not to my knowledge.
Also, Gamora has always been able to fight with people like Drax.
Her fighting skills are some of the best in Marvel, if not the BEST.
Her enemies don't range from Hulk, to Cyber.

So, where do you see her supposedly getting a boost anyway?

Just before that she explains to him that she went through a cosmic makeover.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No, she DID get a boost. It's covered in Ronan#3. She actually grabs Ronan when he's laying on the ground at her feat,and throws his a really long ass way. Then she speed blitz's him. And he was in that big ass suite of armor when she threw him too.

Just before that she explains to him that she went through a cosmic makeover.

Originally posted by bigbran
Can I just say Hulk,

Originally posted by bigbran
and answer this question? I'm talking about Wolverine. How many times have we seen swords and guns put him down?

It funny your trying to say jabb>>>>>>sword.

Listen man what your saying is ridiculous.

Originally posted by bigbran
How many times have we seen blunt force take him out...

Originally posted by bigbran
How many muscles do people have in there throats? You don't have too much to protect yourselves there.

Sword in the throat>>>>>>>>>>jabb. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by bigbran
What wouldn't she do to Cyber?

Originally posted by bigbran
Hit him in the face, dodge every pathetic attempt he throws at her.

Originally posted by bigbran
Kick him so hard in the stomach he gets winded (like Wolverine).

Originally posted by bigbran
She isn't odinary, she is not Cap.

Originally posted by capt it up
Hulk?

Originally posted by capt it up
Hardly ever how ever that’s due to his healing factor. A bullet is far more damage then a jabb.

Originally posted by capt it up
It funny your trying to say jabb>>>>>>sword.

Listen man what your saying is ridiculous.

Originally posted by capt it up
Not much unless you mean heavy hitters and even that it not very much. Also hulk hitting logan even glancing him is more damage to logan who body then freaking DD punching logan in one spot 20 times.

Originally posted by capt it up
Who needs it when you can heal it instantly.

Sword in the throat>>>>>>>>>>jabb. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by capt it up
A lot of things.

Originally posted by capt it up
You do realize he a level 6 fighter and is extremely skilled. He has superhuman reflexes he would land hits.

Originally posted by capt it up
How would that work when his stomach coat in adamatium

Originally posted by capt it up
So?

I think I'll switch my vote to Gamora 10/10

Originally posted by thedude1948
I think I'll switch my vote to Gamora 10/10

Originally posted by bigbran
😆
Why is that?

Originally posted by thedude1948
That was my mentally challenged cousin who thought Wolverine could win, and that is the only excuse a person can have for picking Wolverine in this fight.

Or was it your cousin? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by bigbran
Oh.

Or was it your cousin? 😖hifty:

Gamora 100/100. Spite thread.

Originally posted by bigbran
Yes Crunk.

Originally posted by bigbran
Obviously, not to Wolverine.

Originally posted by bigbran
If we look back on Wolverine, I don't think a sword or bullet has ever put him down.

Originally posted by bigbran
Punches and kicks however...

Originally posted by bigbran
Look back on the conversation. I never said that!
I said, to Wolverine, it seems like blunt force is the superior to cutting force.

Originally posted by bigbran
There is a difference in hitting anywhere, and hitting in a pressure point.

Originally posted by bigbran
But, Wolverine has no feats to disregard this.

Originally posted by bigbran
Every thing in Wolverine's history says, that blunt force (to him), seems to be more that piercing.

Originally posted by bigbran
No, Gamora would destroy Cyber (not literly, but she would beat him hard!).

Really and how would she hurt him.

Originally posted by bigbran
So? Cap would be like he is standing still to Gamora,

Originally posted by bigbran
what the hell is a level 6 going to do?
Level 6 fighting skills .

[QUOTE=7868615]Originally posted by bigbran
[B] Umm, Wolverine did it, didn't he?

Originally posted by bigbran
That she isn't like Cap, she is far, far ahead.

Ok you two, I started a Gamora vs Cyber thread for you to continue on.

Originally posted by capt it up
? that makes no senses lol

Originally posted by capt it up
Like I have said over and over blunt force does far less damage then slashing force unless your talken class 100.

Originally posted by capt it up
It has.

Originally posted by capt it up
From who? Who has put him down with punches and kicks? Besides high level character really no one has. Unless your talken a PIS event such as the DD insistent

Originally posted by capt it up
But that not true. Your also trying to say DD jabb to the throat did more damage then a sword going through wolverine throat in the same place.

Originally posted by capt it up
The adam apple is not a nerve lol. It a weak point, but it not a nerve attack. Not to mention a sword going through it is a lot more damaging.

Originally posted by capt it up
Yes he does a sword through the freaken throat.

Originally posted by capt it up
That’s not true your just bull shitting. You want that feat to be useable, but frankly it PIS and it easy it see a sword through the throat is far more damaging.

Originally posted by capt it up
Really and how would she hurt him.

Originally posted by capt it up
She not that fast. If were using classic she no were near that fast.

Originally posted by capt it up
If he did it should be PIS.

Originally posted by capt it up
Does not really matter. Capt would get killed fighting cyber.

Originally posted by bigbran
Haven't you ever watched Dexter's Lab?

Originally posted by bigbran
Yes, but Wolverine's character, to me, almost seems to go against that...

Originally posted by bigbran
How many times?

Originally posted by bigbran
Pip put him down with a rock. Thing.

Those are to low end showings. I am not even sure pip KOed him. Pip also well over DD strength. Thing one was a lot more damage then let on if you add in the speed of rogue and he strength.

Originally posted by bigbran
I never said Daredevil's feat wasn't pis.

Originally posted by bigbran
I'm just saying, that to Wolverine's character, it would seem, that blunt force, applies more damage than piercing force.

Originally posted by bigbran
I said pressure point.

Originally posted by bigbran
Is that a pressure point hit?

Originally posted by bigbran
As you should have seen, I have already admitted that that feat was pis, to jinzin.
This has just escaladed into something else.

Originally posted by bigbran
Does he have adamantium covering his face?

Originally posted by bigbran
Oh, no, absolutely not that fast... 🙄
Thanos couldn't lay a hand on her, what the hell is Cyber going to do?

Originally posted by bigbran
Ya, but Cap could land blows on him.

Originally posted by bigbran
I know how you don't like the idea of pis, but I'll go by what your saying here.
Just because Wolverine has done it once, doesn't mean he can repeat it.

Originally posted by bigbran
Also, Wolverine got tooken out by a baseball bat to the nuts, and Daredevil took him out with a blow to the throat.

If you don't like pis, then what do you call that?
If Daredevil can take him out like that, then Daredevil x100000000...

dd put logan down with a shot to the throat but later ennis worte wolverine being punched across a state line by hulk and literally getting right back up and hopping the next train back to the fight...

ennis wrote wolverine to be taken down by a nutshot but in the same arch wolverine stands up to having his entire torso groin and legs blown away by an lcd rocket (he's not even remotely unconcious), and getting his entire face blown off literally by punisher's shotgun....

you've got two different sides of polarity using the same athur in the same arch... so you're gonna have to bring up someone besides ennis to prove your point.

and like you said, just because they did it once they aren't guaranteed to do it again. the problem for your counter point is that the evidence that wolverine can stand up to that type of punishment (well the nutshot should actually put logan down for a lil while IMO) or heal from it near instantly HEAVILY outweighs the feats where he can't. In terms of his fighting ability vs. gamera... well his fighting ability increased after origins and endings so it's highly likely that he would not only do as good, but better than before.

Originally posted by jinzin
true.

Both occurances you're reffering to happened under garth ennis' run... I wouldn't have such a problem with them but ennis has admitted bias against super powered superheroes, which is why he made everyone with superpowers look like a cartoon in that story arch...

dd put logan down with a shot to the throat but later ennis worte wolverine being punched across a state line by hulk and literally getting right back up and hopping the next train back to the fight...

ennis wrote wolverine to be taken down by a nutshot but in the same arch wolverine stands up to having his entire torso groin and legs blown away by an lcd rocket (he's not even remotely unconcious), and getting his entire face blown off literally by punisher's shotgun....

you've got two different sides of polarity using the same athur in the same arch... so you're gonna have to bring up someone besides ennis to prove your point.

and like you said, just because they did it once they aren't guaranteed to do it again. the problem for your counter point is that the evidence that wolverine can stand up to that type of punishment (well the nutshot should actually put logan down for a lil while IMO) or heal from it near instantly HEAVILY outweighs the feats where he can't. In terms of his fighting ability vs. gamera... well his fighting ability increased after origins and endings so it's highly likely that he would not only do as good, but better than before.

So, he fighting ability, minus claws could make him able to beat the shit out of Ronin? He could fight Thanos alone? He could beat Drax?
Wow, that run, must have given him a massive damn upgrade!
Also, even in classic form, I think she would win.
Gamora has also gotten an upgrade too. She said this, before she flung Ronin about a football field+ length, with one arm, not even trying...

Also, what is the excuse behind this one:
Pip put Woverine down with a rock to the head.
Thing put Wolverine down with a punch on the top of the head.

Originally posted by capt it up
Yes how ever I do not recall some one named crunk. Though I have no seen it in year.

That’s your opinion how ever I do not agree.

More then I like

Those are to low end showings. I am not even sure pip KOed him. Pip also well over DD strength. Thing one was a lot more damage then let on if you add in the speed of rogue and he strength.

Then why are u arguing me then?

From class 100 maybe lol. Blunt force is not more damaging hell almost all of Logans rouges are slashing attack users. Sabertooth, ogun, silver samuri, lady death strike and so on.

Yes and what DD did was not a pressure point.

Not how ever if there was a pressure point were the sword went it would of ripped it apart causing far more damage then any pressure point.

The only reason it escaladed is because you argued with me about some thing you agreed with.

Nope, but really does not matter when he has a superhuman healing factor.

Show three feats of classic feats.

Yes and it would do absolutely nothing.

Ya, there was also Thor, don't remember his name.

Of course, aren't arguements formed off of disagreeing?

Probably.

Well, he was down, and he didn't apear for quite a while...
Ya, Thing put him down, but your answer before was CLASS 100.
Thing isn't in that level.

I argue for many reasons, mostly just for the sake of argueing.

Maybe, but I gave you examples of two, lower than class one hundsky.
Also, how many times have those people beat him in a fight?
I remember bone claw staleamting Deathskrike, after he had no healing factor, and was incredibly weakened.

It sure looked like one...

Yes, but accordingly to Logan, and 90% of his showings, swords don't have what it takes to put him down like that.
Honestly, you have to agree, that Logan takes piercing damage pretty damn good.

Nahh... it happened because of Logan's showings vs cuts, and Logan's showings vs Punches... I think... 😕

So, how much do you think it would take to overload this bugger?
How did he die again, anyway?

Do you mean 'show me', as in scans, or say the feats?
You might have to wait on that one, a little bit.