Wolverine vs. Gamora · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Howard_Jones Restricted

Originally posted by capt it up
that was PIS event and I can prove it. Logan taken far worse then a jabb to the adams apple. That was some of the crappiest writting ever. Logan taken swords through the neck and kept fighting yet a jabb takes him down?

Gee, stopping bloodflow to his brain? Well, I guess since he never uses it that wouldn't work.

Kid Kurdy Senior Member

Originally posted by capt it up
that was PIS event and I can prove it. Logan taken far worse then a jabb to the adams apple. That was some of the crappiest writting ever. Logan taken swords through the neck and kept fighting yet a jabb takes him down?

True. That was crap writing, a real low end feat for Wolverine.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Gamora can pretty much beat Superman if she put her mind to it. Wolverine is out of his league. If he had like superior strength on top of his skills, he could win. She's too much for him.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Gee, stopping bloodflow to his brain? Well, I guess since he never uses it that wouldn't work.

logan taken far far more damage to the same area and kept fighting

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Gamora can pretty much beat Superman if she put her mind to it. Wolverine is out of his league. If he had like superior strength on top of his skills, he could win. She's too much for him.

Don't know how much strength you have to add to beat Gamora though.

This thread is funny though.

Originally posted by jinzin
Everyone one of thoese heroes and villains were being mind controlled, but it didn't really seem to effect their skills and personalities all that much, just their aggression... she wasn't a zombie or anything, she was well aware of who she was, it's hardly a suitable excuse for wolverine being able to hang with her... therefore he must be able to do it.

I know how you don't like the idea of pis, but I'll go by what your saying here.
Just because Wolverine has done it once, doesn't mean he can repeat it.

Also, Wolverine got tooken out by a baseball bat to the nuts, and Daredevil took him out with a blow to the throat.

If you don't like pis, then what do you call that?
If Daredevil can take him out like that, then Daredevil x100000000...

Kid Kurdy Senior Member

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Gamora can pretty much beat Superman if she put her mind to it.

My God...

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by capt it up
that was PIS event and I can prove it. Logan taken far worse then a jabb to the adams apple. That was some of the crappiest writting ever. Logan taken swords through the neck and kept fighting yet a jabb takes him down?

Hey, you guys are the ones that are always talking about how precision pressure points strikes are different that random attacks to the same part of the body. In fact, I've heard Wolverine fans(though not necessarily you, I can't remember) say that the only reason DD was able to do that was because it was a pressure point strike, and those work against just about anyone with a human anatomy.

Now, if you have an instance of Wolverine shaking off an actual strike like that(it has to actually be named as such, it can't just be a strike to an area where a pressure point exist), THEN it can be argued as being PIS. Otherwise, it's a valid feat & tactic.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
My God...

If she can hurt Drax, I know she can hurt supes. He's not a great fighter at all.

Kid Kurdy Senior Member

Superman's durability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drax's durability.

End of discussion.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey, you guys are the ones that are always talking about how precision pressure points strikes are different that random attacks to the same part of the body. In fact, I've heard Wolverine fans(though not necessarily you, I can't remember) say that the only reason DD was able to do that was because it was a pressure point strike, and those work against just about anyone with a human anatomy.

First off I never once said that and I really don’t know of a knowledgeable wolverine fan who has stated this. This would be beyond unlikely. First his healing factor would heal the nerve strike instantly. Also wolverine anatomy is not the same as a humans his body is far denser he ahs enhanced human durability, he been stated of having magnitude durability that be 10 times a human one.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Now, if you have an instance of Wolverine shaking off an actual strike like that(it has to actually be named as such, it can't just be a strike to an area where a pressure point exist), THEN it can be argued as being PIS. Otherwise, it's a valid feat & tactic.

Wolverine/trek cross over is one. Other than that I have to look around through my comics. I also like to mention that DD instant was PIS. First of it was written by Enis who we all know writes comics full of PIS. Logan drank freaken acid in that comic.

Also logan took a sword to the neck in the same area the strike when and kept fighting so yes that instant is PIS. A sword through your neck is far more damaging to a jabb to the adams apple. I sword was in the same place as were the jabb had hit.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Superman's durability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drax's durability.
End of discussion.

Draw with the power gem was pretty much as durable as they come. Any way she beats wolvering and he doesn't get a chance to lift one claw.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by capt it up
First off I never once said that and I really don’t know of a knowledgeable wolverine fan who has stated this. This would be beyond unlikely. First his healing factor would heal the nerve strike instantly. Also wolverine anatomy is not the same as a humans his body is far denser he ahs enhanced human durability, he been stated of having magnitude durability that be 10 times a human one.

Thing's a lot more dense than 10 times a normal human. And you guys still use THAT pressure point strike. And Gamora actually took down Thing with a pressure point strike also, so I'm pretty sure that she could handle the denseness of Wolverines skin.

Originally posted by capt it up Wolverine/trek cross over is one. Other than that I have to look around through my comics. I also like to mention that DD instant was PIS. First of it was written by Enis who we all know writes comics full of PIS. Logan drank freaken acid in that comic.[/B]

Wolverine/Trek I'm pretty sure is non cannon, so that doesn't count. And whether or not there was PIS throughout the rest of the comic, that doesn't mean that the feat is invalid without proof.

Originally posted by capt it up Also logan took a sword to the neck in the same area the strike when and kept fighting so yes that instant is PIS. A sword through your neck is far more damaging to a jabb to the adams apple. I sword was in the same place as were the jabb had hit. [/B]

I'm pretty sure that Thing's had things pierce his body in the same area as his shoulder and never went down like he did against Wolverine, so does that mean that Wolverine's piercing his shoulder feat is invalid? Unless those swords were specifically stated as to have hit a pressure point, that doesn't count either.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Superman's durability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drax's durability.
End of discussion.

When did this happen?
Drax is basically duribility!

Even if Drax was less durible, it wouldn't be by much anyway.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
Thing's a lot more dense than 10 times a normal human. And you guys still use THAT pressure point strike.

Yes , but that’s because of the use of a bladed weapon and thing does not have a healing factor. Also logans claws can by pass things defenses.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And Gamora actually took down Thing with a pressure point strike also, so I'm pretty sure that she could handle the denseness of Wolverines skin.

I am not argueing that wolverine would lose. I was only argueing that DD feat was straight up PIS.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wolverine/Trek I'm pretty sure is non cannon, so that doesn't count. And whether or not there was PIS throughout the rest of the comic, that doesn't mean that the feat is invalid without proof.

Wait wait wait wait. You think a jabb to the neck does more damage then a sword placed in the same area by some one equally as skilled?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm pretty sure that Thing's had things pierce his body in the same area as his shoulder and never went down like he did against Wolverine,

Proof it and it better be by some one nearly as skilled as logan in martial arts.

Originally posted by darthgoober
so does that mean that Wolverine's piercing his shoulder feat is invalid?

Not unless you can prove things taken a shot there by some one who is a high skilled martial artist who weapon could by pass thigns defenses

Originally posted by darthgoober
Unless those swords were specifically stated as to have hit a pressure point, that doesn't count either.

Why do they have to be stated? They were stabbed there by a highly skilled martial artist aiming at a vital place to put logan down. There were aimed at the same place by some one of immense skills. DD event was PIS plain and simple

bigbran Dead

Butting in...

Originally posted by capt it up
Wait wait wait wait. You think a jabb to the neck does more damage then a sword placed in the same area by some one equally as skilled?

No, a jab to the neck stuns you, but a sword kills you.
A little different...

Wolverine can't die to that stuff, so technically a jab should do more.

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

Did Gamora get a boost in Annhilation or are Gamora supporters talking out of their asses?

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
Butting in...
No, a jab to the neck stuns you, but a sword kills you.
A little different...
Wolverine can't die to that stuff, so technically a jab should do more.

Jabb would not do more. a jab would heal instantly while a sword would would most deffently create a lot more damage.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by capt it up
Jabb would not do more. a jab would heal instantly while a sword would would most deffently create a lot more damage.

In comics, it seems that blunt damage does more. Look at Superman vs Doomsday.
Also, Wolverine seems to heal instantly from cuts, while blunt damage does more, for a more lasting effect.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Did Gamora get a boost in Annhilation or are Gamora supporters talking out of their asses?

No, not to my knowledge.
Also, Gamora has always been able to fight with people like Drax.
Her fighting skills are some of the best in Marvel, if not the BEST.
Her enemies don't range from Hulk, to Cyber.

So, where do you see her supposedly getting a boost anyway?

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
In comics, it seems that blunt damage does more. Look at Superman vs Doomsday.

No it does not if any thing a jabb is not true blunt damage. also character like wolverine and spiderman have no real piercing defenses yet there blunt defenses are quite high.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
In comics, it seems that blunt damage does more. Look at Superman vs Doomsday.
Also, Wolverine seems to heal instantly from cuts, while blunt damage does more, for a more lasting effect.
No, not to my knowledge.
Also, Gamora has always been able to fight with people like Drax.
Her fighting skills are some of the best in Marvel, if not the BEST.
Her enemies don't range from Hulk, to Cyber.
So, where do you see her supposedly getting a boost anyway?

I lvoe to see gamora beat cyber.