Wolverine vs. Gamora

Originally posted by Soljer
If the pressure point strike includes pain, it includes tissue damage.

If it is painless, yet, somehow, still effective? Then, it's arguable that it is 'unhealable.'

Pressure: The baroreceptor in the carotid artery is pressure-sensitive, allowing the body to control the bloodflow into the brain. Pressure against this region will 'trick' the body into thinking that blood pressure is too high, and thus will constrict and lower blood pressure - which can cause blackout. Striking veins and arteries can also cause them to shut or tear, both of which will definitely cause black-out and possible death if not treated immediately.

There are lots of techniques that can be activate with minimal damage to the artery, nerve etc. And besides, you can feel pain without getting physhicalle damaged. Pain receptors can be fooled rather easily.

Pressure point attacks work on many areas, sensitive spots, nerve clusters, veins, ateries.

To break an attacker's grip, apply strong pressure to the cuticle of his thumbnail. Your attacker will find it painful, but you won't cause any physical damage.

Pretty much tells you that you can cause pain without physical damage.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Pressure: The baroreceptor in the carotid artery is pressure-sensitive, allowing the body to control the bloodflow into the brain. Pressure against this region will 'trick' the body into thinking that blood pressure is too high, and thus will constrict and lower blood pressure - which can cause blackout. Striking veins and arteries can also cause them to shut or tear, both of which will definitely cause black-out and possible death if not treated immediately.

There are lots of techniques that can be activate with minimal damage to the artery, nerve etc. And besides, you can feel pain without getting physhicalle damaged. Pain receptors can be fooled rather easily.

Pressure point attacks work on many areas, sensitive spots, nerve clusters, veins, ateries.

To break an attacker's grip, apply strong pressure to the cuticle of his thumbnail. Your attacker will find it painful, but you won't cause any physical damage.

Pretty much tells you that you can cause pain without physical damage.

You can wiki things? 😱

At least cite your source, friend.

Also: Pain IS indicative of tissue damage. If it's painful, it's likely because there is tissue being destroyed.

Originally posted by Soljer
You can wiki things? 😱

At least cite your source, friend.

Also: Pain IS indicative of tissue damage. If it's painful, it's likely because there is tissue being destroyed.

Does it matter where I get it from? It's more handy to copy & paste than describe it by your own words. Especially if you're not english. But anywho, it's valid. I stated this long before I went for a quote. And I did italize it. But in the future I will state my sources, in order to avoid you getting upset. 🙂

And pain receptors can be fooled. Easily, there's no doubting that.

Pain can be a signal of tissue damage or inflammation, but this is often not the case. wikiwiki.

On the matter at hand, most martial arts teach you to aim at different pressure points & weak points. Arteries etc. Wolverine could be easily KOed by a simple artery push.

And don't you think it's rather ignorant to say:

A pressure point is damaging the nerves and also bruising the skinn both of which would be heal instantly if you had a healing fact.

When actually these are usually called nerve strikes. Pressure points don't usually cause damage to the area of the hit/press and don't usually require lot's of strenght to apply.

And then afterwards he states:

He does not need to since that is not what a pressure point does. It attacks your nerve causing damage to it.

Give me a break please. Even nerve strikes don't actually have to cause damage to the tissue, they trigger the nerve causing effects varying the area or usually intense pain.

And then he implies that I don't know anything about pressure points (This is quite correct though, I'm not an expert on the area) but he says he knows more than we, when he doesn't even realize that nerve strikes are only part of the freaking pressure point cateqory. Or, that he wont have his favourite character be weak against such attacks.

Was Capt acting a bit ignorant? Sure. Just saying that pain is often tissue damage. The few instances where pain is NOT tissue damage are mostly either a 'mislabeling' of the feeling as pain, or mental in nature.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Does it matter where I get it from? It's more handy to copy & paste than describe it by your own words. Especially if you're not english. But anywho, it's valid. I stated this long before I went for a quote. And I did italize it. But in the future I will state my sources, in order to avoid you getting upset. 🙂

And pain receptors can be fooled. Easily, there's no doubting that.

Pain can be a signal of tissue damage or inflammation, but this is often not the case. wikiwiki.

On the matter at hand, most martial arts teach you to aim at different pressure points & weak points. Arteries etc. Wolverine could be easily KOed by a simple artery push.

And don't you think it's rather ignorant to say:

When actually these are usually called nerve strikes. Pressure points don't usually cause damage to the area of the hit/press and don't usually require lot's of strenght to apply.

And then afterwards he states:

Give me a break please. Even nerve strikes don't actually have to cause damage to the tissue, they trigger the nerve causing effects varying the area or usually intense pain.

And then he implies that I don't know anything about pressure points (This is quite correct though, I'm not an expert on the area) but he says he knows more than we, when he doesn't even realize that nerve strikes are only part of the freaking pressure point cateqory. Or, that he wont have his favourite character be weak against such attacks.

in order to cause pain it would have to damage a part of his body. hitting any were on a body will cause damage though slight. So are you trying to tell me pressure point attacks cause no damage? becuase that be false. They damage the body and last I checked a healing factor fix'es damage done to the body. Pressure can well force in postion and mantained such as what elecktra did with his sia's would work since there no way to heal the damage. How ever pressure points done with hands and such is stille damage it just as a much much smaller rate. damaging nerves, skinn, messing up blood flow is due to damaging the body at a small degree, but still does not matter becuase the healing factor would simply fix the damage. also the picture your argueing was to the adam's apple not a pressure point. also some people are simply immune to certain nerve strikes due to medical reasons, but thats a whole nother story. The place DD hit was center of the neck which caused logan to stop breathing it was the adams apple that was indeed hit which should have been healed instantly that is why the feat is clearly PIS

last time I checked any one and I mean any one can write on wiki.

So basically, despite all the arguing over pressure points, we can all agree that either version of Gamora kicks Wolverines ass at this point right?

i know its so easy to bash wiki and say that they are inaccurate but im sure if you all look closely they usually post a bibliography of where they got the info from. in fact most of the time the articles are just a summary of the direct issues... if anything wiki's only failing is that it has outdated info on some of the most obscure characters. but it's fairly accurate fro the most part

Originally posted by capt it up
in order to cause pain it would have to damage a part of his body. hitting any were on a body will cause damage though slight. So are you trying to tell me pressure point attacks cause no damage? becuase that be false. They damage the body and last I checked a healing factor fix'es damage done to the body. Pressure can well force in postion and mantained such as what elecktra did with his sia's would work since there no way to heal the damage. How ever pressure points done with hands and such is stille damage it just as a much much smaller rate. damaging nerves, skinn, messing up blood flow is due to damaging the body at a small degree, but still does not matter becuase the healing factor would simply fix the damage. also the picture your argueing was to the adam's apple not a pressure point. also some people are simply immune to certain nerve strikes due to medical reasons, but thats a whole nother story. The place DD hit was center of the neck which caused logan to stop breathing it was the adams apple that was indeed hit which should have been healed instantly that is why the feat is clearly PIS

I don't really argue the issue where DD hit Wolverine as I haven't read it in a while. It could be PIS.

Tell me this. A guy hits a nerve, the nerve is fooled to do something Ie. relax a muscle. Now, the damage that was occurred to the NERVE might be healed, but the nerve is still fooled to relax the muscle. Pretty much same with blood pressure.

Tell me, how do you heal a stuck vein/artery?

Nerves can be fooled without really damaging them. Arteries can be stuck without really damaging them. And even if the hit would damage the nerve or vein, the outcome would be the same.

*sigh* besides, you can cause pain without damage. Wikipedia it up 🙂

last time I checked any one and I mean any one can write on wiki.

Then it's a good thing I only used one quote from there. It's all pretty much basic information anyways.

Logan loses. Silence fanboys.

Originally posted by Bald Bugger
Logan loses. Silence fanboys.

For real. 😒

Originally posted by Bald Bugger
Logan loses. Silence fanboys.

I'm not entirely sure that Capt is even arguing that Wolverine wins at this point. He conceeded earlier that Gamora would win.

I think he's arguing over semantics, and the Wolverine hate at this point.

Thread with Wolverine that contains Wolverine hate. What a surprise. 🙄

Oh ya, Wolverine never to my knowledge outfought Gamora...

Gamora is distracted by teh Prof. Hulk falling on Samsquanch.
Then comes the cheapshot of the hour.

I find it funny how only one piece of that page is ever shown...

Originally posted by bigbran
Damnit, I was just going to make his thread!
With or without Godslayer?
Doesn't matter, Gamora 1000/10.

Originally posted by capt it up
He lifted more then 30 tons in one arms with ease before. First off your using a fan created bio. What I used for evidence was a direct BIO form marvel and also a direct references in comics. Maybe you should try using official evidence instead of fan made. You might actually learn some thing.

Tiger shark is far from dumb. Also he goes head to head with namor. Again your using fan made Bio’s they are no official, but nice try.

🙄 ok if you say so.

Gamora wins then.

Gamora Wins !

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Gamora still wins.