Wolverine vs. Gamora

Originally posted by capt it up
No you clear do not understand. A pressure point is damaging the nerves and also bruising the skinn both of which would be heal instantly if you had a healing fact. Second it was a adam apple pushed in which again is not a pressure point and is clearly damage done to the body. A sword through the throat is far more damaging and harder to heal then a pressure point. Also the sword was left in logans throat.

He does not need to since that is not what a pressure point does. It attacks your nerve causing damage to it. It also can indent the skinn which is also damage to the skinn which if you had a healing factor would heal instantly. You should really learn what pressure point attacks does it causes damage which is either to the nerve or to the skinn causing in blood clots of sorts all of which heal over time now if you heal far far greater then a normal human it would heal instantly.

That would make no senses what so ever. Both cause damage how ever a stab causes about 100 times more damage.

No, there are different kinds of pressure point attacks.

Pressure: The baroreceptor in the carotid artery is pressure-sensitive, allowing the body to control the bloodflow into the brain. Pressure against this region will 'trick' the body into thinking that blood pressure is too high, and thus will constrict and lower blood pressure - which can cause blackout. Striking veins and arteries can also cause them to shut or tear, both of which will definitely cause black-out and possible death if not treated immediately.

And if you want to belive in Chi (In comics, it does exist) That pressure point attacks alter the current of this natural bio energy, with consequences. The throat strike could have been a one which affects his natural "chi", and we really can't tell wether it was just a jab to the throat as we can't really rely on what the artist draws.

Anyway, I'm not sure how Wolverine can "heal" his nerves as some pressure point attacks fool the nerve without doing much, or any damage and have other consequences.

It's hilarious that you tell me to read up on pressure points when you clearly have no idea about them.

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Jinzin - Still up for the debate wether Deathverine was enhanced or not..?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
rolleyes1

You know, I dont think I've ever seen you actually debate. It seems like you just hang around threads, trying to act superior to other people, so you can be 'cool'. Lemme guess, your little school buddies don't think your popular enough, so you come onto internet forums and find out who is, and try to be cool too? All you've ever done is criticize and act accusatory or holier-then-thou. 😬

Originally posted by thedude1948
I think this scan speaks for itself

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For **** sake! Was that an upgraded Gamora?

Originally posted by capt it up
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wait why am I stupid? Are you calling me stupid becuase I disagree and know that the DD fight was pure PIS.

also I could out debate you in my sleep

Wolverine fanboy = 😖hit:

Oh and I could out spell you in my sleep.

wolvie is not god, jack kirby is!

Ok, anyone who thinks Wolverine has a shot at winning should check this out.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t432516.html

Originally posted by Jyppe
No, there are different kinds of pressure point attacks.

Pressure: The baroreceptor in the carotid artery is pressure-sensitive, allowing the body to control the bloodflow into the brain. Pressure against this region will 'trick' the body into thinking that blood pressure is too high, and thus will constrict and lower blood pressure - which can cause blackout. Striking veins and arteries can also cause them to shut or tear, both of which will definitely cause black-out and possible death if not treated immediately.

And if you want to belive in Chi (In comics, it does exist) That pressure point attacks alter the current of this natural bio energy, with consequences. The throat strike could have been a one which affects his natural "chi", and we really can't tell wether it was just a jab to the throat as we can't really rely on what the artist draws.

Anyway, I'm not sure how Wolverine can "heal" his nerves as some pressure point attacks fool the nerve without doing much, or any damage and have other consequences.

It's hilarious that you tell me to read up on pressure points when you clearly have no idea about them.

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Jinzin - Still up for the debate wether Deathverine was enhanced or not..?

Originally posted by bigbran
Ya, maybe, but, what I'm trying to point out, is that there is such things as pis.

Originally posted by bigbran
Well, if he was as good at fighting as Gamora, he should not be using his claws.

Originally posted by bigbran
Oh, ABC logic does work in this case, since basically what you said here...

Originally posted by bigbran
So, if your allowed to say Pip doing this is an inconsistency, then why isn't Wolverine stalemating Gamora an inconsistency?

Originally posted by bigbran
Also, as I believe you have said before, that was an extremely low showing.
Gamora fights people on Drax's level, all the time, but then, we are expected to believe Wolverine can stalemate her?

Originally posted by bigbran
Well, like you said though...
So, a really good feat of Wolverine is usable, but a not so good feat isn't?

Originally posted by bigbran
Oh, so Pip doing this was, dare I say it, pis?

Originally posted by bigbran
I thought Thing is the one who caused the damage?

Originally posted by bigbran
Well, if he was as good at fighting as Gamora, he should not be using his claws.

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Gamora uses daggers... if she was as good as Wolverine she wouldn't need them? 😕

Originally posted by jinzin
I don't disagree... but wolverine holding his own in a h2h with gamera is hardly a case of PIS. 😬
and using an ennis feat to show a low end showing for wolverine really isn't PIS it's WBIS.

Originally posted by jinzin
why not? they ARE afterall his best weapon... if he's trained to fight using his best asset it should be granted to him in a fight should it not?

Originally posted by jinzin
soooo....... abc logic works because you found a bias showing against wolverine? that's some abstract logic there....
aside from that... if you're trying to say that gamera's fought more dangerous people then I agree.. but these more dangerous people she's fought are not in wolverine's league when it coes to fighting ability.... they're not comparible... also CONTEXT: wolverine's dropped hulk, beheaded magneto, gutted him, landed a killing blow on thanos... does that mean that gamera shouldn't stand a chance against him? no... not at all....

I bet claw damage does more than an Anti-Force blast, a black hole, etc...

You talk about consistency, and yet you mention Wolverine cutting off Mags head?
Unless this Mags wasn't paying attention, and sleeping or something, I find that next to impossible to believe.

Originally posted by jinzin
because: how consistently does gamera absolutely thrash top fighters on wolverine's level? do you think that captain america vs. gamera would be so one sided? or gamera vs. iron fist? I sure as hell don't...

Actually, yes, Gamora would trash Cap, and IF.

Originally posted by jinzin
okay.. captain america has koed a water induced namor, he's pwned terrax, dropped hulk clones, and put the boots to loki.... does that too mean wolverine doesn't stand a chance against him? no.. again the character's she fights are not comparible to wolverine.. at all..

Are you honestly believing what your posting, nevermind Terrax, Namor, and Hulk clones, but to even mention him beating Loki?
Wow?
Also, what issue was the Loki fight?

Originally posted by jinzin
on these forums.. yes... cause we use these characters at their best... to prove that gamera being stalemated by wolverine was a low end showing you have to first produce evidence that she can walk all over guys on wolverine's level in terms of fighting ability first... can you do that?

Originally posted by jinzin
perhaps, perhaps not... but again we base these forum fights off consistency so the pip thing is irrelivent either way.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not sure.. apparently only three people actually read the book and no one's talking.. 😬

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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Gamora uses daggers... if she was as good as Wolverine she wouldn't need them? 😕

I think Garth Ennis writing falls more under a Hamma Rule then WIS, jinzin.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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Gamora uses daggers... if she was as good as Wolverine she wouldn't need them? 😕

She doesnt need them to beat alot of the type of foes that Wolverine DOES need the claws to beat.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
She doesnt need them to beat alot of the type of foes that Wolverine DOES need the claws to beat.

She could also lift at least 20 tons in her classic incarnation. If Wolverine was in the 20 ton range he wouldn't need claws either.

Originally posted by bigbran
A low showing for Gamora, it is.
Also, if we blamed everything on the writer, for a low end showing, then wouldn't that make it non-canon instead of pis?

Originally posted by bigbran
Also, your WBIS, doesn't have a mention on the forum rules either...

Originally posted by bigbran
Well, he is supposed to be as versed as her without the claws, isn't he?

Originally posted by bigbran
Even with the claws (minus comics), he would still get his ass sttomped against the same people she fought.

Originally posted by bigbran
You talk about consistency, and yet you say Wolverine was able to stab Thanos?
Hmm...

Originally posted by bigbran
Also, if it was such a killing blow, like the text didn't say exactly, then why was Thanos standing still?

Originally posted by bigbran
Why didn't Thanos flinch? Why didn't Thanos even try to protect himself?

Originally posted by bigbran
Nevermind the pis stabbing part, but really, this feat works against you even if we use him stabbing him. Even if he can stab Thanos... we already know he can stan Gamora, so what is the point?

i brought up thanos as an example of people out of gamera's league that wolverine put down.. what you aren't considering is context.. what you aren't considering is power sets.. they differ greatly when considering those feats as opposed to wolverine vs. gamera.. that's why it was brought up.. you can bring up gamera avoiding thor, and maxam, and holding up to thanos all you like but it doesn't prove that she can do that to extremely talented fighters on the level of these guys.. it's that simple.

Originally posted by bigbran
I bet claw damage does more than an Anti-Force blast, a black hole, etc...

anti force and black hole does not = logans claws...
again show me thatt thanos is invulberable to admantium claws and then we'll have a debate.. right now however all we've got are my facts versus your speculation.

Originally posted by bigbran
You talk about consistency, and yet you mention Wolverine cutting off Mags head?
Unless this Mags wasn't paying attention, and sleeping or something, I find that next to impossible to believe.

Originally posted by bigbran
She has proved that she can put Thing down, with one hit.

Originally posted by bigbran
how many of people have done this based on fighting ability, and minus weapons?

Originally posted by bigbran
Actually, yes, Gamora would trash Cap, and IF.

Originally posted by bigbran
Gamora's lowest showing is fighting Wolverine.
Wolverine's fights people like Deadpool, and stuff like that.

Originally posted by bigbran
Are you honestly believing what your posting, nevermind Terrax, Namor, and Hulk clones, but to even mention him beating Loki?
Wow?
Also, what issue was the Loki fight?

Originally posted by bigbran
Umm... Thanos.

Originally posted by bigbran
And consistency is Gamora fighting Wolverine?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
She doesnt need them to beat alot of the type of foes that Wolverine DOES need the claws to beat.

very true.

Look, Gamora has mastered fighting techniques from 83.4 percent of ALL known space faring cultures. Why are people even trying to compare people like Cap and Iron Fist to her?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Look, Gamora has mastered fighting techniques from 83.4 percent of ALL known space faring cultures. Why are people even trying to compare people like Cap and Iron Fist to her?

Well I imagine alot of those styles would be redundant. 😉

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Well I imagine alot of those styles would be redundant. 😉

Originally posted by darthgoober
If they were redundant, I seriously doubt that she would have taken the time to learn them.