Ryo Vs Vega

Kyukogen is the strongest even though I haven't won anything in over a decade w/it. Gotta keep the school open and have an heir. I suck. I train hard like Ryo, but try to have kids & get laid like Ken but I'm not half as cool as he is & King doesn't really like me. Probably because I suck
----Ryo Sakazaki

Ryu's plot deals with is internal strife and conflict won undertakes when conquering himself. While it may not have substance, and ryu isn't the main character anymore. It shows his unfaltering resolve, and lacks romantics like most fighting game plots with BS secret destinies. He's still cooler than ryo.

Originally posted by Sado22
agreed. Ryo actually has a backstory (that makes sense) at least in his own series. AoF1, he's looking for his sister. AoF2, he's there for vengeance. AoF3, though not central, he's helping out a friend, robert. he actually has personality and character and more to him than Ryu. that i will say.

😂
must be...or maybe the moon...or the bad camera angles...or maybe Falcoon is a jackass. it could be any of these, right?

~Sado
P.S. always nice to see you tear Capcom fans a new one. *hats off*

Originally posted by Remulous
Your joking right? That lame, bogus ass story, it's so damn boring that even SNK decided to leave it alone. He's all ways been old boring dumb ass Ryo. Ryu has been through stuff, he's fought the darkness with in, he's won fights and lost them, he's been the good guy and bad guy. Ryu may not seem deep on the outside but his story is deep and makes sence. Ryo has done nothing but try and bring glory to his dojo, that's it.

Your joking rigth?

It was so lame that its the first part of the whole "King of Figthers" universe story. Without it you would get nada.

So, so lame that Terry`s story started actually there and its own its a sequel. Thats why your playing KOF today. Because of these lame storylines that put Ryu`s SF story to shame.

Wich isent saying much: I KNOW. Considering he barely ever had one..

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Ryu's plot deals with is internal strife and conflict won undertakes when conquering himself. While it may not have substance, and ryu isn't the main character anymore. It shows his unfaltering resolve, and lacks romantics like most fighting game plots with BS secret destinies. He's still cooler than ryo.

So, no storyline of worth then? Ok.

Mr Karate Ryo is far cooler than either.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Kyukogen is the strongest even though I haven't won anything in over a decade w/it. Gotta keep the school open and have an heir. I suck. I train hard like Ryo, but try to have kids & get laid like Ken but I'm not half as cool as he is & King doesn't really like me. Probably because I suck
----Ryo Sakazaki

You got me tears off of that. If i feel that way, how will fans of a natural gifted slacker like Kyo will feel? A man that spent most of his entire life in high school, and its now outshined, thinking about when he was the main star, and when he relied on his flames to win witchever.

Damn, Brain. Your evil 😠 have a heart!

man this thing is still going on? holy shit.

Ryu's story sucks. it always did and always will. its full of cliches and boring crap that no one older than 9 really cares too much about.
think about it:

internal struggle: hmmm seen that like a billion times before. watch almost any anime and it has the bull about the hero with some darkness in him and how he has to face up to it. its boring as hell and cliched.

the one who wants to be stronger: hmmmm seen it before again. again, read any manga or watch any anime and its all over it. protagonist has a couple of fights, realizes he sucks ass, decides that he has to get stronger. B-o-r-i-n-g. c-l-i-c-h-e-d.

what else? oh that's right he doesn't have anything else to him, cuz remember, he doesn't rreally care about other people. al he cares about is the fight....and how to time himself perfectly so that he happens to be walking into the sunset.

its boring. its sad. its ryu.

~Sado
P.S. not to mention taking his pictures and giving it to little girls. what a pervert.

Originally posted by olympian
It was so lame that its the first part of the whole "King of Figthers" universe story. Without it you would get nada.

So, so lame that Terry`s story started actually there and its own its a sequel. Thats why your playing KOF today. Because of these lame storylines that put Ryu`s SF story to shame.

Actually in Reality Terry's story came first. Fatal Fury debuted in 91 and Aof debuted in 92.

That doesnt change the fact that canonwise his story starts on AOF1, since it took place 15 years before when Jeff Bogart was still alive.

Think of it as " what came before "

And Ryu is cliched yes. But thats no excuse for taking pictures and giving it up to little girls. . . just no!

I understand about being canonwise but I am talking reality wise. As I said Ryo is cool but Terry is the only SNK character that gets robbed the worst since he was there first.

As well SNK screwed up on the timelines since in KOF, Ryo is suppose to be the same age as Terry though in the FF/AOF universe, he is much older.

Ryu's story is cliche,lol? How many fighting game protagonist had the same plot before ryu? How many anime characters had the same plot before, ryu? And where's ryo's plot now? LOL.

Giving pictures to little girls Versus someone who wants to get in a little girls pants :Cough: Robert & Yuri:Cough: and a guy who likes a girl who dresses like man, :Cough: Ryo & King:Cough:

Ryu's story is cliche,lol? How many fighting game protagonist had the same plot before ryu? How many anime characters had the same plot before, ryu? And where's ryo's plot now? LOL.

Ryo's plot is same as Terry's plot, and does that mean Terry sucks now. what was the last FF that came out? does that mean Terry sucks now? to quote Terry:
"Hey! Get serious!"
KoF has practically taken over for good, so to speak. even though MoTW was one of the best SNK games ever (getting better reviews than SF3), they still haven't bothered with it.

Giving pictures to little girls Versus someone who wants to get in a little girls pants :Cough: Robert & Yuri:Cough: and a guy who likes a girl who dresses like man, :Cough: Ryo & King:Cough:

oh and Yuri isn't a little girl, nor is she too much younger than Robert. the lesser the clothes on your girlfriend/fianse, the more you tend to like her. that is nothing wrong there since they are lovers, nor are they too far spaced in age. so no, you're wrong.

as for King, well she is hot. and just cuz a woman dresses in pants, doesn't make her a man. welcome to the 21st century. you never seen a woman in a business suit? does that mean they are men?
besides, boycuts can be pretty hot on a girl if they suit her. they suit king just fine and she looks hot. besides she has the best ass in KoF chicks. Ryo's got some taste.
AT LEAST its better than being a training eunuch. even when Ryu gets paired up with someone, its either Ken (a real ****** in the alpha series, though i really like ken, he just looks like a *** in the alpha series) or with Chunli, a woman who has more muscles on her leg than jean claude vandam....those muscles and then she wears pantyhose on top of it. THAT is sick, my friend. totally sick.
so at the end of the day, at least Ryo's getting pussy, while ryu is spending his freetime with another sexually deprived hermit who lives with animals and dressed in rags...oh wait, so is ryu.
Ryu needs a life...like right now. so does akuma and oro. maybe they can have like one life, and split it evenly between each other. 😆

later, emperor.
~Sado
P.S. this is no beef, dude, i'm messing around as much as you are.

Originally posted by Sado22
the point was at least Ryo's plot makes SENSE.
also Kazuya was the first to be there as the anti-hero and internal struggler.

Kazuya's story had nothing to do with internal struggle, He wanted Revenge on his father and made a deal with the devil to gain it. What does that have to do with internal struggle, counqering one self, and finding the meaning of the fight?

Originally posted by Sado22

then came Iori, next year, who also has the whole internal struggle thing going. so no....ryu isn't the first as you people claim.

Ryu first appeared on the scene in 1987, dude. Iori has nothing to do with internal struggle, his main plot is his stupid destiny and rivalary with kyo.

Originally posted by Sado22

funny how ryu always gets credit for being the first in practically anything. i mean people actually think that SF invented the supers when it was actually AoF. haohshikoken is rip off of shinkuuhadouken. my ass.

AOF never invented supers, infact people did not start saying supers until super turbo came out. Haoshishoken was a special that was made into a super move later on. The Super combo system was created by Capcom, the only thing they borrowed for snk was the bar regulated attacks. Super combo and spirit bar are not the same, Spirit bar regulates all special moves. Super bar regulates supers which give you invincible frames and is one huge attack, tell me, which model does snk use now? Oh, and street fighter created special moves I.E. hadouken, shoryuken since street fighter 1.

Originally posted by Sado22

Ryo's plot is same as Terry's plot, and does that mean Terry sucks now. what was the last FF that came out? does that mean Terry sucks now? to quote Terry:

Fatal fury mark of the wolves came out in 2004, compare thatto the last art of fighting.

Originally posted by Sado22

KoF has practically taken over for good, so to speak. even though MoTW was one of the best SNK games ever (getting better reviews than SF3), they still haven't bothered with it.

Mark of garou came out in 2004, while street fighter 3 came out in 1999 so I'm not surprised, and garou stole sf3 engine, just like aof 2 and FF2 stole street fighter 2 engine. Last I checked sf3 is played in evo what about garou?

Originally posted by Sado22

you obviously know i was kidding, right. 😆
though i still think it was kinda sick. capcom has a thing for pedophilia and twisted love lives.
You have Poison and Cody
you have 14 year old patricia having the hots for Alex
you have Oro thinking that Ibuki was after him.
what the hell? its sick.

Originally posted by Sado22

oh and Yuri isn't a little girl, nor is she too much younger than Robert. the lesser the clothes on your girlfriend/fianse, the more you tend to like her. that is nothing wrong there since they are lovers, nor are they too far spaced in age. so no, you're wrong.

Originally posted by Sado22

as for King, well she is hot. and just cuz a woman dresses in pants, doesn't make her a man. welcome to the 21st century. you never seen a woman in a business suit? does that mean they are men?
besides, boycuts can be pretty hot on a girl if they suit her. they suit king just fine and she looks hot. besides she has the best ass in KoF chicks. Ryo's got some taste.

Right, A chick dressing like a man, he sure has taste,lol

Originally posted by Sado22

AT LEAST its better than being a training eunuch. even when Ryu gets paired up with someone, its either Ken (a real ****** in the alpha series, though i really like ken, he just looks like a *** in the alpha series)

Ken is a married man with a kid, and ryu follows ascetics big deal.

Originally posted by Sado22

or with Chunli, a woman who has more muscles on her leg than jean claude vandam....those muscles and then she wears pantyhose on top of it. THAT is sick, my friend. totally sick.

So, pairing up with a woman who acts like a girl and a woman who can't decide if she's a man is cool,lol. And chun-li is freaking hot.

Originally posted by Sado22

so at the end of the day, at least Ryo's getting pussy, while ryu is spending his freetime with another sexually deprived hermit who lives with animals and dressed in rags...oh wait, so is ryu.

Originally posted by Sado22

Ryu needs a life...like right now. so does akuma and oro. maybe they can have like one life, and split it evenly between each other. 😆

later, emperor.

Kazuya's story had nothing to do with internal struggle, He wanted Revenge on his father and made a deal with the devil to gain it. What does that have to do with internal struggle, counqering one self, and finding the meaning of the fight?

Ryu first appeared on the scene in 1987, dude. Iori has nothing to do with internal struggle, his main plot is his stupid destiny and rivalary with kyo.

AOF never invented supers, infact people did not start saying supers until super turbo came out. Haoshishoken was a special that was made into a super move later on. The Super combo system was created by Capcom, the only thing they borrowed for snk was the bar regulated attacks. Super combo and spirit bar are not the same, Spirit bar regulates all special moves. Super bar regulates supers which give you invincible frames and is one huge attack, tell me, which model does snk use now? Oh, and street fighter created special moves I.E. hadouken, shoryuken since street fighter 1.

Fatal fury mark of the wolves came out in 2004, compare thatto the last art of fighting.

Mark of garou came out in 2004, while street fighter 3 came out in 1999 so I'm not surprised, and garou stole sf3 engine, just like aof 2 and FF2 stole street fighter 2 engine. Last I checked sf3 is played in evo what about garou?

-Cody had a girlfriend, jessica.

How old is alex?

So, oro's a pervert, it's not like yuri and robert who try to form a relationship

How old is yuri, sounds like crap to me.

Right, A chick dressing like a man, he sure has taste,lol

Ken is a married man with a kid, and ryu follows ascetics big deal.

So, pairing up with a woman who acts like a girl and a woman who can't decide if she's a man is cool,lol. And chun-li is freaking hot.

Because if ryu had a girlfriend, it would ruin his character. He has a solid resolve and isn't distracted that's why he's strong versus ryo who likes his chicks manly,lol

LOL, because he doesn't hang around his dojo picking up man chicks that sound like boys and look like ellen. Plus his best friend is a pedophile,lol.

compare that to:

-hangs around with a one-armed freak, who thinks little girls are after him. oh and who also has spent like 150 yeras of his life with animals alone.
-hangs around another sexually deprived loser
-his best friend is a pretty boy *** who has longer hair than his wife
-got a girl who gave him a headband cuz she loved...but that got changed to his faggoty best friend giving it to him.
-hasn't gotten laid at 33+
-only gets paired up with the "strongest she-male in the world"
-thinks pussy will hit him cooties

Later emperor
~Sado
P.S. this is so much fun, dude🙂

Originally posted by Sado22
revenage AND teh fact that he has devil in him. not to mention how they further developed that into an tragic hero element by making hims struggle between angel and devil. he tried to conquer himself, however, kazuya failed to, hence his legacy passed on to his son, Jin, who now is on the same footsteps as his father, but is somewhat more successful at it due to having jun as a mother who was capable of guiding him. Kazuya didnt. so there you....internal struggle.

Again, how is that like ryu, he never took up figting for revenge.Ryu's entire drive is based on zen philosphy, kazuya's isn't at all. Never mind that he came out before kazuya your ignoring that fact as well, so, how is ryu cliche?

Originally posted by Sado22

i know...dah. but you and i are not talking about who came first. we're talking about the internal struggle. Iori too has an internal struggle. his destiny always has him fighitng WITH kyo instead of against him. also he has the blood line problem, and when that wasn't enough he fought against it, revolted against it, and:
-suppressed his purple flames to get red ones to defeat Geonitz
-suppressed his orochi self and attacked Orochi.
again...internal struggle.

No, were not talking about internal struggle, it seems your forgetful. You claimed ryu was cliche. I asked how and named points in his plot, internal struggle was just one point which you decided to focus on and associate. I listed more than one.

Originally posted by Sado22

IMO you are missing the point. denial? i don't know.
the haohshikoken requires your stamina bar to be full right? similar to how you need to have a "super gauge" to do a shitkuuhadouken (i hate that special hence the distortion of the name. denjin is so much cooler). super combo was also NOT created by Capcom. Terry was doing the powergeyser, and kim was doing his phoenix thingy, in FF2 (1992) and SSF2 came at least 2 years later in 1994. so no, they didn't invent it. SNK did. as for specials, i already told you that i know that and that I was getting mixed up between specials and supers, which was my bad.

Fatal Fury never had super combo's, friend. They only have one similarity, they both have bars, after that capcoms model is completely different. And tell me which model does SNK use now?

Originally posted by Sado22

1999 actually. AoF3 came out in 1996..

You sure, I'm pretty sure it came out 2004.

Originally posted by Sado22

but Poisin is a new half and Capcom did come up with the story of how "IT" framed Cody cuz cody didn't love "it". and please, no story is sicker and more twiste than Poisin. we are in agreement right?

Are you honestly quoting final fight street wise, a game that does even try to folow the canon? Cody went to jail because he loved to fight, and poison became a girl because of capcom of america.

Originally posted by Sado22

since he was in the US army and came back after a few years of service, he is at least older than 18...probably in his 20's. so yeah, its pretty sick. not to mention how freaking HUGE he is and how patricia is just 14.

So, lots of girls have feelings for older men, they aren't in a relationship.

Originally posted by Sado22

but like i said, Yuri is NOT a little girl.

She looks like one, acts like one, so, she is one.

Originally posted by Sado22

last i checked, she is one year younger than Ryo. she just acts stupid and that is why people think she's a kid. she as old as Terry Bogard in KoF: 24 (terry's perpetual age). Ryo is 25.

Can you verify that with a source, I'm pretty sure she is a kid.

Originally posted by Sado22

again....business suits, remember? doesnt mean she IS a man. plus she has a body of a regular woman (with a perfect ass if i might add). AND she's french. oh and not to mention she DOES where regular clothes and there are pictures of Ryo and King in the beach.
so yeah he's got taste.

A girl who likes to cross dress, sounds like a boy, and looks like ellen, lol.

Originally posted by Sado22

chunli has a good face, given. she has a nice bust, given too. she looks great in the alpha series, given again. BUT she has the legs of a man. all those muscles and bulging inner thighs... 😘

She has nice thick thigh's, huge knockers, great face, and a donkey the size of planets. Chun li >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>King.

Originally posted by Sado22

King is a woman who knows that she is. also she doesn't ACT like a man, lets be clear there. she has been seen in bikinis, evening gowns, hot pants and even tank tops and skirts.

But has a short cut, sounds like a little boy, and dresses like a man.

Originally posted by Sado22

also she was practically the chick everyone was flocking in one of the parties of KoF (cover poster and flier of KoF98). so no...not a she-male.
also talk about proportions:

Well, I'm not surprised, the kof cast are weirdos except terry.

Originally posted by Sado22

chunli has the legs of a man. admit it.

Men aren't that curby, and king IS a man, admitt it.

Originally posted by Sado22

king is pretty femine in appearance with not one body park looking like a man. face it, King isn't a cross between a lucy liu and jean claude vandam like Chunli.

Versus looking like this:

Originally posted by Sado22

getting pussy won't make him weak or unfocused. if that were the case Ken won't be schooling him those two times that he did. plus, didn't gouken have a daughter? so does that mean that gouken wasn't focused.

Ken beat ryu the first time because he wasn't focused, and the second time was because ken really wanted it bad. Ryu, is still superior to him and beat him twice during sf3. Also, goukens daughter is retconed and even if he wasn't, gouken is dead versus gouki who follows ascetic.

Originally posted by Sado22

ryu's got a bogus life and a freakin joke of a goal.

Because he see's more to life then woman, he's not a shallow person. I admire him for that..

Originally posted by Sado22

also Ryo fell in love with King when he stripped her with the haohshikoken...so he was very much attracted to king for being a woman....though king wasn't too happy 😆

Of course, he had to be sure it was a woman, not that he mind if he wasn't.

Originally posted by Sado22

again:
-robert aint a pedophile

Yeah, he is, or has a complex.

Originally posted by Sado22

-Ryo doesn't just remain in the dojo like 24/7 and actually has a social life, attending parties, drinking, going to bars etc.

LOl, so, he still sucks, and drinking, having a social life, and screwing girls doesn't make you a man or in ryo's case a good character.

Originally posted by Sado22

-king isn't a man
-king doesn't act like a man

Originally posted by Sado22

-hangs around with a one-armed freak, who thinks little girls are after him. oh and who also has spent like 150 yeras of his life with animals alone.

Ryu doesn't hang out with oro, he called him a freak.

Originally posted by Sado22

-hangs around another sexually deprived loser

Not having sex doesn't make you a loser.

Originally posted by Sado22

-his best friend is a pretty boy *** who has longer hair than his wife

Originally posted by Sado22

-got a girl who gave him a headband cuz she loved...but that got changed to his faggoty best friend giving it to him.

Originally posted by Sado22

-hasn't gotten laid at 33+

Being pious and abstetent doesn't make you gay.

Originally posted by Sado22

-only gets paired up with the "strongest she-male in the world"

Versus ellen degenere,lol

Originally posted by Sado22

-thinks pussy will hit him cooties

Okay first of all emperor
😆 😆 at that picture 😆 😆
bwhahahahaah. good one.

i'll reply later though since i have a class in 3 minutes.....
I'll be back.

~Sado

P.S. i'm still laughing at the pic 😆

Again, how is that like ryu, he never took up figting for revenge.Ryu's entire drive is based on zen philosphy, kazuya's isn't at all. Never mind that he came out before kazuya your ignoring that fact as well, so, how is ryu cliche?

No, were not talking about internal struggle, it seems your forgetful. You claimed ryu was cliche. I asked how and named points in his plot, internal struggle was just one point which you decided to focus on and associate. I listed more than one.

what sense? what logic? it makes no sense

Fatal Fury never had super combo's, friend. They only have one similarity, they both have bars, after that capcoms model is completely different. And tell me which model does SNK use now?

You sure, I'm pretty sure it came out 2004.

Are you honestly quoting final fight street wise, a game that does even try to folow the canon? Cody went to jail because he loved to fight, and poison became a girl because of capcom of america.

So, lots of girls have feelings for older men, they aren't in a relationship.

She looks like one, acts like one, so, she is one.

Can you verify that with a source, I'm pretty sure she is a kid.

A girl who likes to cross dress, sounds like a boy, and looks like ellen, lol.

She has nice thick thigh's, huge knockers, great face, and a donkey the size of planets. Chun li >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>King.

But has a short cut, sounds like a little boy, and dresses like a man.

Well, I'm not surprised, the kof cast are weirdos except terry.

Men aren't that curby, and king IS a man, admitt it

Ken beat ryu the first time because he wasn't focused, and the second time was because ken really wanted it bad. Ryu, is still superior to him and beat him twice during sf3. Also, goukens daughter is retconed and even if he wasn't, gouken is dead versus gouki who follows ascetic.

Because he see's more to life then woman, he's not a shallow person. I admire him for that..

Of course, he had to be sure it was a woman, not that he mind if he wasn't.

Yeah, he is, or has a complex.

LOl, so, he still sucks, and drinking, having a social life, and screwing girls doesn't make you a man or in ryo's case a good character.

Not having sex doesn't make you a loser.

Being pious and abstetent doesn't make you gay.

No, his life just doesn't revolve around sexcapades.

Small wonder you like ryu so much.

later dude.
~Sado
P.S.
alucarddont take this fun away from me!alucard

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I understand about being canonwise but I am talking reality wise. As I said Ryo is cool but Terry is the only SNK character that gets robbed the worst since he was there first.

As well SNK screwed up on the timelines since in KOF, Ryo is suppose to be the same age as Terry though in the FF/AOF universe, he is much older.

And thats the reason why his story happened first and then Terry`s. Even if FF was released first.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Ryu's story is cliche,lol? How many fighting game protagonist had the same plot before ryu? How many anime characters had the same plot before, ryu? And where's ryo's plot now? LOL.

Giving pictures to little girls Versus someone who wants to get in a little girls pants :Cough: Robert & Yuri:Cough: and a guy who likes a girl who dresses like man, :Cough: Ryo & King:Cough:

What plot are we even talking about? He never had any. How is *not* cliched a figther just figthing for the sake of being better? When you ask plot, you ask Personality. Devolopment. Changes. Ryu doesnt have those.
Ryo at least did. Essential to the making of KOF. Thats more that you can ever say about SF`s main star 👿

* looks above *

ohmygodsthepnwonage

All in fun.

And Yuri its a grownup woman in the AOF/FF timeline. Easily.

Originally posted by olympian
You got me tears off of that. If i feel that way, how will fans of a natural gifted slacker like Kyo will feel? A man that spent most of his entire life in high school, and its now outshined, thinking about when he was the main star, and when he relied on his flames to win witchever.

Damn, Brain. Your evil 😠 have a heart!

Originally posted by olympian
Thats why your playing KOF today. Because of these lame storylines that put Ryu`s SF story to shame.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

Ken is a married man with a kid

[QUOTE=7926466]Originally posted by olympian
[B]And thats the reason why his story happened first and then Terry`s. Even if FF was released first.
[QUOTE]

Youre saying the reason his story happened first was beacause of KOF? I need to do some checking on Ryo' background.

[QUOTE=7929839]Originally posted by brainchild81
King is probably to feminine for him
[QUOTE]

Did you see that picture that EA showed?....I actually know people that make fun of King and call her Ellen Degenerous. That's a disgrace to King.

Originally posted by Sado22
dude we are talking about THE internal struggle thing that you mentioned that according to you is the first one in fighting games and I'm telling you that it isn't.

Sado, please stop twisting my argument. I listed more reasons then just Internal Struggle for god sakes. Why are you nitpicking?

Originally posted by Sado22

the whole internal struggle thing came into picture DURING ALPHA SERIES. it was during this time that we finally find out thaT Ryu cheapshotted Sagat.

Please, stop nitpicking and address my other reasons.

Originally posted by Sado22

we find out about the dark hadou and we find out what happened between bison and Ryu. up till SSF2 turbo, all we knew about Ryu was that he is a sexually deprived loser who walks, as the only guy who actually believes he is the true warrior. THAT is what i was saying.
Kazuya's T1 and T2 stories are of internal struggle. in fact Kazuya was the first hero have one. so it didn't start with Ryu as you were claiming. we clear?

No, were not clear, I listed more resons than internal struggle, address them.

Originally posted by Sado22

no, my friend, it is YOU who is forgetful. our whole argument started cuz you were claiming ryu to be the first of his kind when it came to internal struggle....and i'm correcting you.

No, sado your wrong as usual, I listed three reasons for god sakes. You just highlighted one of those reasons. Do you want me to quote myself as always to prove you wrong?

Originally posted by Sado22

as for his plot, all i said was that it makes no sensem IMO and is too ridiculous. that is as far as his plot goes. why i brought it up was because, you were claiming that RYO didn't have a backstory (or that it sucked) and i was reminding you that at least Ryo's story makes sense.

Makes sense, tell me, AOF fighting took place in the late 70's yet, he's still somehow young please. Everyone knows ryo is a slot filler.

Originally posted by Sado22

he is looking for his sister.
he is looking for revenge (and glory)
he is helping his friend.
makes sense.

Wow, how hypocritical, your calling ryu cliche. Do you know how many characters prior to ryo wanted revenge or wnated to help there friends? Kenshiro wanted revenge, goku wanted to help his friends, etc.

Originally posted by Sado22

Ryu:
-he is there looking for the meaning of fight. gets his ass kicked. not only does he get his ass kicked, he goes to extreme lows to win, and in the process misses the whole point of fighting by doing all that.

Originally posted by Sado22

-he challenges his best friend for a match in SF2, trying to prove a point to Ken that he has to stays focused and not slack off. he loses himself (mostly considered canon now. and no Ryu didn't take a dive)

Dude, ryu only lost twice to ken, and the first time he wasn't even focused. Ken even remarked about ryu being different and that's why he beat him.

Originally posted by Sado22

-enters again to test himself....actually accomplishes something this time by losing to someone who IS strong for a change.

For a change, most people who beat ryu (Not too many) are high ranking fighters I.E. Bison ken, oro. What are you talking about?

Originally posted by Sado22

what sense? what logic? it makes no sense

It makes no sense, because you do not get it, versus a plot that has conflicting timelines :Cough: ryo:Cough:

Originally posted by Sado22

i said FATAL FURY2. i don't know which model....who?

Originally posted by Sado22

nope, 1999. probably it came out in US later...or you were never too into it so never knew. i don't know. but it did come out in 1999 and i remmber playing it.

Originally posted by Sado22

no not really. read his profile for one of the Final fights before street wise, i think FF revenge. its says it all there and its canon. Cody went to jail (the first time) cuz Poison framed him.

Get a source for that, because revenge was made by capcom of america as well.

Originally posted by Sado22

dude your taking the joke seriously. don't tell me some chicks dig older guys. i know a girl who thinks guys with pot bellies is really sexy....that doesn't stop it from being disturbing now does it?
also Oro isn't just old..........he is OOOOOOOOOOOOLD....and one armed...and a genuine freak. i doubt chicks dig that.

What, who cares They aren't in a relationship Never mind that you brought capcoms sexuality in too question like you always do. First it was gouki's Anal Beads, then uriens Thong now this.. do you a thing for fictional characters sexuality?

Originally posted by Sado22

tell me where she acts like a man.
and unless you consider a 36 bust to be manly....sure.

Originally posted by Sado22

she does not sound like a guy.
doesn't really cross dress, since we've seen her in shorts, tanktops, bikinis, evening gowns and even low cut dresses. that is NOT crossdressing. she wears those clothes since its easier to move around in a man's clothes, not to mention how she has been forced to hide her identity as a woman on more than one occasion.

Please,saod, king sounds like a little boy, looks like a man, and acts like one. So, guess what she is one.

Originally posted by Sado22

that's ur opinon and you're entitled to it. and now let me make something clear to you:
i said her face is nice.
i said her bust is good.
i said figure (waist above is perfectly fine)
i even said she's hot in SF alpha.
all i said was that her big leg muscles make me puke and make her look like a shemaile...which they do.
King has a nice bust, perfect ass, good hieght, french, beautiful face...though i do like brunetes more than i like blondes. but **** it...King>>>>chunli IMO.

Sorry, I'm not attracted to chicks that I have to double check on.

Originally posted by Sado22

better than a woman with legs like a man wearing pantyhose. that's sick. not to mention how king doesn't even sound like a man, nor does she look like one.

Sure she doesn't, lol.

Originally posted by Sado22

sure...i guess its everyday we see people not wanting to have sex for like forever, have one arm missing, wear anal beads around their neck, have sharp teeth, fiery hair (literally), wear undersized diapers/ thongs in battle, have half of their body blue and the other half red, extend their limbs, bend unnaturally, have girls with big leg muscles, go around destroying islands for the **** of it, not to mention tying themselves up with handcufs though they can take it off anyday.

Lol, versus

Kyo-Looks like an extra from a jackie chan movie
Andy-Anyone ever seen american ninja
Iori- Why does he dress like boy george and have his ankles tied?
King-Ellen I liked your movie "Mr.Wrong"
Mai- Fighting prostitute, better call her super ho
Yuri-A retard
Robert-Longer hair then his girl friend
Ryo-Looks like something from Surf ninjas
Ash-I don't have to say a thing, Brainchild can handle this.

Originally posted by Sado22

sure if you admit if chunli is a shemale.

Versus king who is a male.

Originally posted by Sado22

typical ryu excuses.
"oh i lost since i want to see my friend get pussy."

WTF, okay...

Originally posted by Sado22

please.
as for the first time, yeah, he beat him cuz he wasn't focused. also Ryu beat him AFTER SF3...and only once. read that again. Ryu lost in SF3 to oro, came to US to fight him and won.

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Originally posted by Sado22

as for gouki gouken thing:
-i don't see your point. -and isn't Ryu looking at Gouken as his rolemodel like his whole life. what's his problem with getting pussy. it makes no sense.
"i will follow in my master's footsteps, and came his advice with me for my whole life, and look at him as my role model...however i will still not get pussy. it has cooties."
😆

Since you don't know anything about buddhist philosophy and how it pertains to eastern martial arts. I guess I have to explain, sex, substance, money, none of those things will help you get to spiritual salvation or sterngth. Only by sacrificing everything and focusing on the meditative way will you reach Nirvana and be free from the Cycle of rebirth. It's a process that takes a long time and alot of sacrifice But, does who follow ascetics and forge themselves will gain an iron will, spiritual strength, and freedom from substances. The reason why warriors follow zen is because it has great results in their military skills. A warriors will power is his inner power.

Also, love intrest in martial arts stories always suck. I can name so many times that writers try to involve love stories in a martial arts novel and it copmpletely derailed the plot by focusing more on their relationship.

Originally posted by Sado22

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lots of things wrong with this comment. getting pussy is alright dude. it doesn't make you shallow. it makes you normal. it makes you a man.
not to mention that gouken, terry, ryo, ken, and practically all other fighters (who are actually better than Ryu IMO) still get pussy.

I never said it wasn't normal. Your the one ragging on ryu because he doesn't have a girlfirend and called him a loser, i simply said he focuses on other things besides sex and isn't shallow.. You seem to be hyper focused, sexual oriented mind? Also, why is terry on that list, who is his girl firend, blue mary, please that's just speculation their not even a couple. As for gouken, he's dead so screw him, ken is weaker then ryu (Official), and ryo just sucks ass.

😂

Originally posted by Sado22

you'd be surprised. at least he has a life at the end of the day. ryu has no life...face it.
also i didn't say it makes you a man. i said it shows that you a life.

Your seriously telling me screwing a chick makes you mature,lol. Taking care of a family, having a job, being responsible, being able to reep waht you sow. That's what makes you a man, not screwing a chick. Anyone, can create a fake persona and lie their why into some chicks pants. I've seen some many guys do this. Yet, the very same guys won't even take responsiblilty for what comes out when there finsihed.

No, life, he has a life. His life is fighting He also like:
-Hiking
Camping
-He ahs a part time job as a karate instructor when he's in japan
-traveling

Versus ryo who never leaves southtown, has a relationship with a Supposed women but, is not Man enough to commit, oh and sucks.

Originally posted by Sado22

not getting laid till 40 does. what do you think 40 year old virgin is all about. keep that kinda ideals and in the next 10 years don't be surprised if you're the laughing stock of your neighbourhood. 😄

LOL, please, 40 year virgin plays on stereotypes that virgins are boring people who are clueless about women and don't do anything. As if talking about sexcapades is the most amazing thing ever,lol. I always thought it was stupid for grown men to sit down and talk about how they had sex with a girl ( In depth), smiling like a bunch of idoits while they conversate about there penis inside a female, and what she did. Like I give a damn, I understand tallking about how hot a girl is but, shiy have some modesty.

Originally posted by Sado22

lets not get religion and all into this. and i seriously doubt Ryu is religious. he doesn't get pussy cuz he is a sexually deprived eunuch. period.

Religion, plays a huge part in this, in fact ingrid says ryu becomes a monk in the future. I already elaborate don buddhsim and eastern martial arts.

Originally posted by Sado22

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okay so let me get this straight, wanting a woman means you're:
-unpious
-shallow
-have no personality
-a loser

Small wonder you like ryu so much.

Or a monk, religous, are just not intrested.

Sado, please stop twisting my argument. I listed more reasons then just Internal Struggle for god sakes. Why are you nitpicking?

Since you don't know anything about buddhist philosophy and how it pertains to eastern martial arts. I guess I have to explain, sex, substance, money, none of those things will help you get to spiritual salvation or sterngth. Only by sacrificing everything and focusing on the meditative way will you reach Nirvana and be free from the Cycle of rebirth. It's a process that takes a long time and alot of sacrifice But, does who follow ascetics and forge themselves will gain an iron will, spiritual strength, and freedom from substances. The reason why warriors follow zen is because it has great results in their military skills. A warriors will power is his inner power

Also, love intrest in martial arts stories always suck. I can name so many times that writers try to involve love stories in a martial arts novel and it copmpletely derailed the plot by focusing more on their relationship.

I never said it wasn't normal. Your the one ragging on ryu because he doesn't have a girlfirend and called him a loser, i simply said he focuses on other things besides sex and isn't shallow.. You seem to be hyper focused, sexual oriented mind? Also, why is terry on that list, who is his girl firend, blue mary, please that's just speculation their not even a couple. As for gouken, he's dead so screw him, ken is weaker then ryu (Official), and ryo just sucks ass.

Your seriously telling me screwing a chick makes you mature,lol. Taking care of a family, having a job, being responsible, being able to reep waht you sow. That's what makes you a man, not screwing a chick. Anyone, can create a fake persona and lie their why into some chicks pants. I've seen some many guys do this. Yet, the very same guys won't even take responsiblilty for what comes out when there finsihed.

Versus ryo who never leaves southtown, has a relationship with a Supposed women but, is not Man enough to commit, oh and sucks.

LOL, please, 40 year virgin plays on stereotypes that virgins are boring people who are clueless about women and don't do anything. As if talking about sexcapades is the most amazing thing ever,lol. I always thought it was stupid for grown men to sit down and talk about how they had sex with a girl ( In depth), smiling like a bunch of idoits while they conversate about there penis inside a female, and what she did. Like I give a damn, I understand tallking about how hot a girl is but, shiy have some modesty.

Or a monk, religous, are just not intrested.

Makes sense, tell me, AOF fighting took place in the late 70's yet, he's still somehow young please. Everyone knows ryo is a slot filler.

Wow, how hypocritical, your calling ryu cliche. Do you know how many characters prior to ryo wanted revenge or wnated to help there friends? Kenshiro wanted revenge, goku wanted to help his friends, etc.

What, why are you twisting the mans plot to prove a point? this is why I'm not to crazy about debating you. You tend to ignore stufff that is posted and have a short memory span. Ryu, by third strike has been in 10,000 battles. Sure he's lost to boss characters and high ranking fighters. But, that's a good thing. He doesn't have to be the HEro who never loses. And, what extreme low, he only did one cheap shot to sagat, after that he cleaned up his act. Nevermind he's a rookie when he did that. So, what extreme lows?

For a change, most people who beat ryu (Not too many) are high ranking fighters I.E. Bison ken, oro. What are you talking about?

ken is weaker then ryu (Official),

It makes no sense, because you do not get it, versus a plot that has conflicting timelines :Cough: ryo:Cough:

Never too into it, mark of garou is the only fighting game I ever really went crazy for.

Get a source for that, because revenge was made by capcom of america as well.

What, who cares They aren't in a relationship Never mind that you brought capcoms sexuality in too question like you always do. First it was gouki's Anal Beads, then uriens Thong now this.. do you a thing for fictional characters sexuality?

So, your denying she acts like a man. Hell in kof 2k she looks like terry with short hair and earings.

Kyo-Looks like an extra from a jackie chan movie

Andy-Anyone ever seen american ninja

Iori- Why does he dress like boy george and have his ankles tied?

Mai- Fighting prostitute, better call her super ho

Yuri-A retard

Robert-Longer hair then his girl friend

Ryo-Looks like something from Surf ninjas

Ash-I don't have to say a thing, Brainchild can handle this.

He beat him first in the sf3 tournament and then he traveled to america and beat him, you read it again.