Ryo Vs Vega

Originally posted by Sado22
Sado:Ryo actually has a backstory (that makes sense) at least in his own series. AoF1, he's looking for his sister. AoF2, he's there for vengeance. AoF3, though not central, he's helping out a friend, robert. he actually has personality and character and more to him than Ryu. that i will say.
Emperor:Ryu's plot deals with is internal strife and conflict won undertakes when conquering himself. While it may not have substance, and ryu isn't the main character anymore. It shows his unfaltering resolve, and lacks romantics like most fighting game plots with BS secret destinies. He's still cooler than ryo.
and then
Sado:internal struggle: hmmm seen that like a billion times before. watch almost any anime and it has the bull about the hero with some darkness in him and how he has to face up to it. its boring as hell and cliched.
Emperor:Ryu's story is cliche,lol? How many fighting game protagonist had the same plot before ryu? How many anime characters had the same plot before, ryu? And where's ryo's plot now? LOL
so tell me: what's the main point here? it began with "internal struggle" and you blatantly claiming that it began with ryu. THAT is where i am correcting you.
by the way, all of this was a joke. i am messing around as much as you are when you claim that king is a man. i've been taking all of it as a damn joke and fun argument, i even laughed out loud at the picture yo sent. of course, you joke around, but when i do you start taking it seriously [/B]

I highlighted it, It should read "The conflict one undertakes when counquering himself. since I spelled "one" wrong.

Originally posted by Sado22
i know about buddhism. that is my research topic for this semester. we don't know if ryu IS religious since capcom never states anything. as for ingrid, that shit was non canon from day one.

I didn't just say buddhism, I said buddhism and eastern martial arts. Those Anal Beads Should have been a give away.

Originally posted by Sado22
talk to me about videogames since this is what we're talking about.

Sado, you mentioned anime in this thread as well, this is what I mean.
You don't remember mentioning non video game related things, like when you said this:

"watch almost any anime and it has the bull about the hero with some darkness in him and how he has to face up to it. its boring as hell and cliched"

Is that game related as well?

Originally posted by Sado22
I-WAS-JOKING-AROUND
just the same way you are when you rant against king.

I was serious about king and that statement.

Originally posted by Sado22
i said wantin to screw chicks makes you normal. in fact it is U who was implying all that stuff about non-pious etc. talk about shifting the blame.

Originally posted by Sado22
see you're joking here, aren't you? its all in good fun..

Originally posted by Sado22
simple: KoF and FF/AoF are TWO SEPERATE TIME LINES

They are, can you verify that with a source?

Originally posted by Sado22
which hero wanted revenge in fighting games prior to Ryo? name one. oh yeah, and who wanted to rescue his sister? which hero wanted to help his friend out? Ken? Ryu? Kyo? Terry? no one. ryo was the first...just the way you claim ryu to be the first internal struggler....which is wrong and i proved it.

-Guile wanted revenge, he came out in 1991.
-Dhalsim wanted to help his friends in family, he came out in 1991

Ryu, was the first inter struggler in a fighting game. Since day one he wanted to know What it means to be a true warrior, you didn't refute jack. Instead you brought up his evil ryu plot as if before that he did not have to counquer internal struggle.

Originally posted by Sado22
i'm not the one who is making a regular woman into a man for kicks and then going on calling the other guy a hypocrite just cuz he happens to poke fun at Ryu's "sexless" life (which at least is true and not of track like what you are claiming).

I never called you a hypocrite because you critisized ryu's sex life, I called you a hypocrite because you ignore my arguments and claim to refute them

Originally posted by Sado22
and am i really twisting the plot as far as SF1 is concerned. not really:
-Ryu entered to test his skill and find the meaning of fight
-got his ass bitched by sagat
-was on his knees defeated
-sagat came to help him up
-ryu goes "dark hadou" and tears his chest opens
-but wait, isn't wanting to win so badly NOT THE POINT OF FIGHTING?

Twisting arguments again, you said he went o extreme lows and bring up one instance when he was young ignoring how he completely dropped satsu no hadou and had to train for almost 15 years to gain back the power he could of had.
When has ryo ever done that, oh wait, when has ryo ever done anything besies suck, lol.

Originally posted by Sado22
ryu missed the point, right? he went in there looking for the meaning of fight but missed it all along. am i messing the story around? no.

Originally posted by Sado22
are you messing facts around with king? Yes.

LOL, because she's a man, and who cares she's a slot filler anyway, what Real plot does she have?

Originally posted by Sado22
am i getting to serious over jokes, but take the liberty to joke around and mess facts? no.

I guess your psychic and hang out with psychics as well, cool. Who can tell your jokiing by reading your text. Just like you were joking when you claimed I only addressed one part of olympians argument about ryo. You claimed I only touched the part pertaining to goku, I guess you were joking and read my argument, wait you weren't joking. You have a habit of ignoring peoples post, or twisting the question. I'll keep pointing this out to you until you change.

Originally posted by Sado22
so whose the hypocrite now?

Originally posted by Sado22
i thought:

so in that sense, Ryu DOESN'T ONLY lose to people stronger than him.

I said ryu loses to bosses and high tier fighters, you want me to quote myself?

Originally posted by Sado22
sure. somehow going into to a fight to know the meaning of fight and then when you actually go there you miss the point doesn't seem ironic.

Originally posted by Sado22
Garou: Mark of the Wolves.

Mark of garou sounds cool to me.

Originally posted by Sado22
read Cody's profile on that tiamat thing. its all there.

Originally posted by Sado22
all in good fun and humor. obviously you're getting too worked up over nothing as usual. you take the liberty to rant about king's sexuality.

Originally posted by Sado22
i don't think guys go around smelling flowers..

Originally posted by Sado22
versus ryu who hasn't had a wardrobe change since the age of 10 or maybe even before that.

Originally posted by Sado22
sure i have seen that movie, and i've also seen ninjas in nike shoes (guy).

LOL, is that an insult?

Originally posted by Sado22
at least he has clothes. why does Hugo wear PINK leopard shirts and pink pants. why does poison cross dress? where does guile get that nancyboy hair gel?

Originally posted by Sado22
sure, and elena fighting in a two piece bikini is so modest.

Elena, doesn't flash her ass on purpose, and she's more clothed than many african tribals

Originally posted by Sado22
Sakura-an even bigger retard.

Sakura acts her age versus yuri who is how old and acts like one, never mind adding CHI to everything

Originally posted by Sado22
two things:
-robert has a pony tail only below his shoulders. Yuri has it down to her back.
-try ken in alpha series who met eliza when HE did have longer hair than Eliza.

Actually, I'm pretty sure robert's hair is longer than his shoulders, I'll post a pic. Kens long cut his hair, what about rob. . . oh, yeah, he's a slot filler.

Originally posted by Sado22
and i wonder what blanka looks like?

Your, mothe. . . not going there,lol!

Originally posted by Sado22
try poison.

Try ash...

Originally posted by Sado22
no he didn't. check your facts again.

I'm sure he did.

Cody was thrown in jail because he got into too many fights. Policemen
do NOT like vigilantes. Cody was addicted to fighting. According to Cody,
he participated in Final Fight One not for justice, but just so he could
get lots of fights. You can see this in Final Fight One for the Gameboy
Advance when you play as Cody then when you play as Alpha Cody (who's Cody
after the events of Street Fighter Alpha 3 occurred flashbacking the
past). Alpha Cody talks about how he realized that he was really just
faking being a hero, back then, and instead of demanding justice, he's now
just demanding that everyone fight him. This also means that Cody lied to
Jessica when he told her that he couldn't be with her as long as evil
stalked the streets (though Cody himself probably didn't realize he was
lying back then). He couldn't be with her not because he had to destroy
evil. He couldn't be with her because he had to keep on fighting because
he was addicted to it.

An alternate explanation is that he was thrown into jail because Poison
framed him for her and her friends' crimes. What crimes those are isn't
stated. That explanation comes from Final Fight Revenge though, and thus
might not be canon.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/street_fighter_plot.txt

[QUOTE=7930110]Originally posted by P-Geyser
[B][QUOTE=7926466]Originally posted by olympian
[B]And thats the reason why his story happened first and then Terry`s. Even if FF was released first.
[QUOTE]

Youre saying the reason his story happened first was beacause of KOF? I need to do some checking on Ryo' background.[QUOTE]

No, no...i said that we have the KOF franchise today because of AOF/FF. And the reason why AOF comes *first* in discussing plots, its because the events of that game took place before FF. No one is taking away anything from FF. Neither claiming what was the best game or character design, Terry and Gesse beat anyone else in that for me.

Just that timeline wise its AOF > FF. With 15 years in between the two stories that are connected.

And Emp. Yuri *is* younger in the KOF games. Shes not in the AOF/FF ones.

I highlighted it, It should read "The conflict one undertakes when counquering himself. since I spelled "one" wrong.

Actually, I'm pretty sure robert's hair is longer than his shoulders, I'll post a pic. Kens long cut his hair, what about rob...oh, yeah, he's a slot filler.

Your, mothe. . . not going there,lol!

Try ash...

I'm sure he did.

Sado, you mentioned anime in this thread as well, this is what I mean. You don't remember mentioning non video game related things, like when you said this:
"watch almost any anime and it has the bull about the hero with some darkness in him and how he has to face up to it. its boring as hell and cliched"
Is that game related as well?

Why do I always have to quote you, because you twist my argument? Quote, where I said have sex is NOT normal versus you saying ryu is a loser because he doesn't have sex, and having sex makes you a man. Shifting the blame alright, you are that is

They are, can you verify that with a source?

-Guile wanted revenge, he came out in 1991.
-Dhalsim wanted to help his friends in family, he came out in 1991

Ryu, was the first inter struggler in a fighting game. Since day one he wanted to know What it means to be a true warrior, you didn't refute jack. Instead you brought up his evil ryu plot as if before that he did not have to counquer internal struggle.

I never called you a hypocrite because you critisized ryu's sex life, I called you a hypocrite because you ignore my arguments and claim to refute them

Twisting arguments again, you said he went o extreme lows and bring up one instance when he was young ignoring how he completely dropped satsu no hadou and had to train for almost 15 years to gain back the power he could of had.

When has ryo ever done that, oh wait, when has ryo ever done anything besies suck, lol.

Missed all along, he never questioned what the fighting was until satsu no hadou awakened. Prior to facing satsu no hadou, all he cared about was crushing powerful enemies.

I guess your psychic and hang out with psychics as well, cool. Who can tell your jokiing by reading your text. Just like you were joking when you claimed I only addressed one part of olympians argument about ryo. You claimed I only touched the part pertaining to goku, I guess you were joking and read my argument, wait you weren't joking. You have a habit of ignoring peoples post, or twisting the question. I'll keep pointing this out to you until you change.

I said ryu loses to bosses and high tier fighters, you want me to quote myself?

No, your just twisting his plot a usual,sado.

Mark of garou sounds cool to me.

No, quote it.

I never said anything about her sexuality, I mentioned her gender. Getting worked up, oh, your psychic

Benimaru does.

Yeah he has, there's an official picture of him wearing jeans and another of him wearing a kimono.

Same place as iori,benimaru, yoshiro and all the other 80's rejects,lol.

Elena, doesn't flash her ass on purpose, and she's more clothed than many african tribals

So what you gonna do now? swear? rant? throw tantrums? flame?
you make me laugh at best and feel sorry for you at worst. get a life.

~Sado

Grassoper, your pwnage skills are getting sharper.

Good. Very good indeed.

Originally posted by Sado22
and your point is....

My point is your wrong, I made more than one point, duh, lol!

Originally posted by Sado22

no it isn't. not till his waist anyway unlike ken in the alpha series.

Guess your right, oh well, he's still better than robert, lol.

Originally posted by Sado22

oh yeah start mother disses you lame kid! its only going to prove my point that you are an immature kid who is gettin so worked up over a "joke debate" that he starts flaming and starts mother jokes; jokes that practically went stale last decade. grow up emperor. seriously speaking. grow up.

LOL, when did I get worked up, oh wait your psychic I forgot about your ability to see what I'm doing 🙄

It was a J--O-K-E, just like when you implyed I was a loser for admiring ryu following ascetics, I took as a JOKE. So, why are you getting worked up over this?

Immature, your the one that let a joke get under your skin. Oh, what about the sexuality of fictional characters, real mature,sado,LOL!!

Originally posted by Sado22

ash isn't a new half. nor does he cross dress. he just looks like a ******. so does alpha ken and so does remy. also ash doesn't wear hot pants, low cut tank tops and high heels.

And ken doesn't pint his nails or act like a *****,lol Oh, and poison being a new half is capcom of america's fault, what's ash excuse.

Originally posted by Sado22

nope.

Ken defeated Sean and dropped out after Oro defeated Ryu, because Ken's main reason for participating was for him to be able to fight Ryu again.

That's been in the SF Plot Guide since pretty much the begining. You are probably thinking about when Ryu defeated Ken during SF3 Third Strike, which wasn't a Tournament but told the events of what happened after the SF3 Tournament(AKA World Warrior Tournament) that occured in SF3 Second Impact.

Originally posted by Sado22

my bad there. however, it WAS YOU who did claim that ryu was the first as the internal struggler. and i told you he wasn't. it was Kazuya. darkhadou etc, didnt come in the picture till alpha series.

Satsu no hadou, was not his first internal struggle, prior to alpha street fighter 2 featured ryu qustioning himself about internal struggle. When alpha just added to this pre exsisting conflict. Otherwise ryu would have reached his goal at the end of alpha, because he conquered satsu no hadou by then. Internal conflict in litterature is person Vs self conflict. He was questioning what is a true warrior, satsu no hadou came after. So, your wrong.

Originally posted by Sado22

this is so ironic. you are blaming me for doing exactly what you're doing right now: i never said having sex makes you a man. i said it makes you NORMAL. shifting the blame...and like before its you.

Yeah, you did, want me to quote you?

SADO:lots of things wrong with this comment. getting pussy is alright dude. it doesn't make you shallow. it makes you normal. it makes you a man."

Originally posted by Sado22

go find it yourself. i'm sick of posting links for your highness' lazy ass. you wanna talk do some research first.

Lazy ass, oh, you mean how I just quoted cody story a few post ago? WTF, have you posted so much, the fortune city link, that's it, please sado. Lazy ass is a title that fits you well in this debate, lol.

Originally posted by Sado22

it'll also save you the trouble of being a weenie kid who gets all upset cuz he can't prove a point without throwing tantrums and starting mom jokes.

Is it that time of the month, you remind me of a friend I had. He loved cracking jokes, which was cool. But, couldn't stand it when the table turns. Yor a HYPOCRITE Habving a ***** fit over a joke when you cracked several jokes prior to that, LOL.

Originally posted by Sado22

we're talking about protagonists aren't we? this is why i specifically have been brining the heroes of games into the picture, like kazuya and ryo.

Guile was the protagonist of street fighter 2, not ryu, genius.

Originally posted by Sado22

that is not "internal struggle", dude.

Originally posted by Sado22

i really don't care what you call me. i always thought of you as an immature jerk who i really shouldn't take seriously and i still don't, especially after your mom jokes. grow up.
also look up what hypocrite actually means.

I looked in the dictionary, and under hypocrite I saw your name.
So, your getting all angsty and bicthy over a J-O-K-E, lol. If it hurts so bad, sorry. But, if your going to crack jokes, expect some in return.

Originally posted by Sado22

i was talking about SF1 specifically. now answer this:
did he fall to extreme lows by hitting an opponent who was helping him up?
did he then, in being so blind in just wanting to win, miss the point of what it truly is to be a fighter and what it is all about?
so isn't that what i have been saying since before?

And I told you,So, I'll tell you again. He was a rookie and his journey had just begun. Of course he makes mistakes, does he do that now, no. So, why are you hung over one mistake he made. He doesn't have to be like the typical snk hero who never loses and is perfect.

Originally posted by Sado22

won a king of fighters tournament for one. beat geese for another.

Right, snk bosses are so strong that beating them is a real feat, please sado.
help his freinds through thick and thin.
fight the good fight. be so good a fighter that he can give Terry Bogard the time of his life. help in rebuilding southtown. be so tough and earn the name of "invincible dragon".
what has Ryu done?

-He's defeated over 10,000 opponents by Third Strike
-Dethroned the emperor of muay thai
-Fought and been around
-Inspired many street fighters E.G. Sakura,Alex,Elena,Makoto,etc (Who has ryo inspired, BUTT,lol)
-Has become a famous Street Fighter
-Close to mastering his fist
-Overcame intoxicating power

Originally posted by Sado22

become a victor of SF1 by being cheap
lose every other tournament that he took part in
forget what his master asked him to do (stop akuma)
come to think about it: what has Ryu done? he never fights for anyone but himself. he's a selfish prick.

Wow, first of all his master never told him to stop gouki, get your memory checked.

HYPOCRITE ALERT What's the last tournament ryo won?

Originally posted by Sado22

which happened to be his first and only fight till then. and by the way you're contradicting yourself, you know that right? look at your previous comments about ryu and look at this one.

I'm not contradicting myself, I'm going by the timeline not the ordrer the games were released. Prior to alpha series, ryu's first internal conflict wass finding out what it means to be a true warrior. Alpah which came out later but, is a prequel turned his first conflict into the one with satsu no hadou.

Originally posted by Sado22

no i don't. funny how no one else here complains of that. in fact most people i know always refer to me when the make an argument. even brain, who hardly ever agrees with me, thinks that i am perfectly logical. so once again: grow up.
as for psychic. this whole thing began with a joke between me and olympian. he understood it. so what's your problem?

You mention anime, and then proceed to tell me not to mention anime. you critsizze ryu for only winning one tournament when ryo does the same, your a hypocrite,sado.

Originally posted by Sado22

ryu is (if i remember correct) 3rd level tier in the SF world. which means that ken is 4th level since he's below him, as you said, since i assume "weaker than ryu" means ryu is better.

Originally posted by Sado22

no not really. it would make sense if you think about it.

Originally posted by Sado22

*gives you a candybar*
you want icecream too, junior?

Originally posted by Sado22

look for it your self. i already told you its in his profile.

Originally posted by Sado22

when someone starts flaming, swearing, calling people things, and acting like a jackass you really don't need to be pyschic to know they're worked up. still want that icecream, kiddo?

You described yourself,perfectly.

Originally posted by Sado22

when someone starts flaming, swearing, calling people things, and acting like a jackass you really don't need to be pyschic to know they're worked up. still want that icecream, kiddo?

Originally posted by Sado22

there is also one of him standing in his undies waiting for his gi to be washed. so...

funny how once iori came in the picture in KoF95 people actually started wearing pants like him. as for yashiro, hes cool. beni=*** and i am the one who was reminding you that a few lines up.

Originally posted by Sado22

she fights in a bikini. period. more skin show. more slutty.

Bikini=slutty, are you super religous or something,lol. Compared to a girl who purposely flashes her ass, sure sado.

Originally posted by Sado22

So what you gonna do now? swear? rant? throw tantrums? flame?
you make me laugh at best and feel sorry for you at worst. get a life.

~Sado

Sorry for me, please sado, The day a take pity form a full fleged hypocrite who gets mood swings over jokes but, when he cracks them himself is the day I become like you,lol. Your the one taking this to the next level, like you always do. So, sit back, it's only a once in a month cycle,lol!

No, thanks, I think you need it more since it's that time of the month. It will help calm you mood swings, and your selective memory,lol!

That doesn't refute what I said,try again,lol!

Bikini=slutty, are you super religous or something,lol. Compared to a girl who purposely flashes her ass, sure sado.

Sorry for me, please sado, The day a take pity form a full fleged hypocrite who gets mood swings over jokes but, when he cracks them himself is the day I become like you,lol. Your the one taking this to the next level, like you always do. So, sit back, it's only a once in a month cycle,lol!

My point is your wrong, I made more than one point, duh, lol!

Originally posted by Sado22
funny. if i WAS worked up i would be flaming you which i didnt. correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't it YOU who started flaming in the other thread too. so like before, "you want the icecream?"

Other thread, you mean the one I apologised for?
Why are you bringing that shit up again, please. Face it sado, you can crack jokes but, can't take em'.

Originally posted by Sado22

the one i'm talking about is official art from his SF3 days since his hair are black.

Originally posted by Sado22

compare that to girl who flashes her ass, and bends over.

Originally posted by Sado22

you still haven't looked up what hypocrite is have you?
in fact how many times have i told you to cool it in this forum and the ones before.

And I told you what irriates me, your hypocrisy. I gave you an example with the anime quote.

Originally posted by Sado22

as for taking it the next level, i'm not the one who started mom disses now did i?

Originally posted by Sado22

nor am i the one who started flaming to begin with. also i've been laughing my ass off at your jokes and even complimenting that pic of "king" that you sent. so no, i'm not worked up. i never am worked up over forum debates with kids.

Bullshit, what's this:

"go find it yourself. i'm sick of posting links for your highness' lazy ass"

(Ignoring that I posted cody's profile before you posted this, and it says what I've been speculating. Final Fight Revenge IS not confirmed to be canon)

Or when you critisized ryu for only winning one tournament, when ryo did the same, hypocrite.

Originally posted by Sado22

Your not qorked up despite saying things like this:
also i don't add "lol" after every sentence just to SHOW that i'm not worked up. kid.

LOL, because I'm not worked up, If I was trying to hide the fact that I was, why would I tell you when and why I'm peeved? I told you prior to this that it urks me when you ignore post. So, that throws your "LOL" theory out the window ,LOL!

Originally posted by Sado22

nope.

Guess your right, oh well, he's still better than robert, lol.

LOL, when did I get worked up, oh wait your psychic I forgot about your ability to see what I'm doing

It was a J--O-K-E, just like when you implyed I was a loser for admiring ryu following ascetics, I took as a JOKE. So, why are you getting worked up over this?

Immature, your the one that let a joke get under your skin. Oh, what about the sexuality of fictional characters, real mature,sado,LOL!!

And ken doesn't pint his nails or act like a *****,lol Oh, and poison being a new half is capcom of america's fault, what's ash excuse.

Satsu no hadou, was not his first internal struggle, prior to alpha street fighter 2 featured ryu qustioning himself about internal struggle. When alpha just added to this pre exsisting conflict. Otherwise ryu would have reached his goal at the end of alpha, because he conquered satsu no hadou by then. Internal conflict in litterature is person Vs self conflict. He was questioning what is a true warrior, satsu no hadou came after. So, your wrong.

Yeah, you did, want me to quote you?
SADO:lots of things wrong with this comment. getting pussy is alright dude. it doesn't make you shallow. it makes you normal. it makes you a man."

Lazy ass, oh, you mean how I just quoted cody story a few post ago? WTF, have you posted so much, the fortune city link, that's it, please sado. Lazy ass is a title that fits you well in this debate, lol.

Is it that time of the month, you remind me of a friend I had. He loved cracking jokes, which was cool. But, couldn't stand it when the table turns. Yor a HYPOCRITE Habving a ***** fit over a joke when you cracked several jokes prior to that, LOL.

Guile was the protagonist of street fighter 2, not ryu, genius.

I looked in the dictionary, and under hypocrite I saw your name.
So, your getting all angsty and bicthy over a J-O-K-E, lol. If it hurts so bad, sorry. But, if your going to crack jokes, expect some in return.

And I told you,So, I'll tell you again. He was a rookie and his journey had just begun. Of course he makes mistakes, does he do that now, no. So, why are you hung over one mistake he made. He doesn't have to be like the typical snk hero who never loses and is perfect.

-He's defeated over 10,000 opponents by Third Strike
[quote]Dethroned the emperor of muay thai

Fought and been around

Inspired many street fighters E.G. Sakura,Alex,Elena,Makoto,etc (Who has ryo inspired, BUTT,lol)

Has become a famous Street Fighter

Close to mastering his fist

Overcame intoxicating power

Wow, first of all his master never told him to stop gouki, get your memory checked.
HYPOCRITE ALERT What's the last tournament ryo won?

You mention anime, and then proceed to tell me not to mention anime.

you critsizze ryu for only winning one tournament when ryo does the same, your a hypocrite,sado.

No, thank you lady, wouldn't want you to have another mood swing,lol.

The one I just posted, where is it?

Grassoper, your pwnage skills are getting sharper.
Good. Very good indeed.

Originally posted by Sado22
this is why i call you kid. think about it.
oh and this too:

Are you serious, because I think ken is better than robert,please.

Originally posted by Sado22

like i said, you don't need to be pyschic to know that someone's worked up if he flames, curses, starts stale mom jokes, rants, makes other threads where he is clearly making his anger obvious (your comments and pics of ryo and robert).

I hate ryo, prior to your appearence in this forum I said that. And uh duh, I told you when I was peeved genuis. Now tell me if I was hiding this fact, why would I tell you? Rant,you mean like your doing now? It's not like I dissed moms roasted minced meat , lol.
-Your not a behavorial analyst
-Nor do you know me
Nor do you anything on me

So, where's your evidence I'm worked up, because I post "LOL" at the end of my sentence's?

Originally posted by Sado22

you start mother disses as a joke? that's funny considering that prior to all this you didn't actually think you and i were joking to begin with.

I thought we were having a semi serious discussion with jokes on the side, It became a joke when we brought sex into the conversation.

Originally posted by Sado22

again seeing you put lol infront of everything just proves that you are worked up.

No, it doesn't, I explained why already, lol!

Originally posted by Sado22

sexuality of videogame characters is something that YOU look at in that manner.

Who brought up ANAL BEADS
Who brought up uriens THONG
Who brought up Ryu's lack of SExcapades

I know it wasn't me.

Originally posted by Sado22

i think of it as nothing but a joke. so does olympian and everyone else. so again: what's your problem?
think again.

Originally posted by Sado22

that doesn't change the fact that Poison IS a new half.
also we aren't comparing ash to ken, we're comparing ash to poison.

Originally posted by Sado22

two things:
-don't talk to me about literature. I'm a scholarship student doing a minor in english literature, a published writer as well as guest lecturer at some of the classes in university. so again, don't talk to me about literature.

Wow, minor english literature, I took a class like that in college as well. Published books, ohhh want a cookie?

Originally posted by Sado22

-internal conflict is conflict between person and self. Ryu was questioning what it was to be a true warrior. that isn't conflict. its basic question and struggling to attain something in life that we really want to achieve.

You really don't know shit about ascetics, do you? The way of the warrior combined with zen goal is to counquer one's self I.E. person vs self.

Originally posted by Sado22

Ryu wasn't going in an internal struggle just because he was questioning what it is to be a warrior since it wasn't something another part of him rejected.

WTF are you talking about, he did not reject nothing,stop twisting his story FFS! (Now I'm peeved)

Originally posted by Sado22

it was what he wanted wholeheartedly from the start. so its not internal conflict.

Originally posted by Sado22

satsui no hadou was the internal conflict because one part of him wanted to reject it, and the other part of him wanted to accept it. That was internal conflict...which didn't come into picture till alpha series. and hence, Kazuya was the first.

Your ignoring his zen philosophy.

Originally posted by Sado22

care to see where THIS comment comes from? read my post before that. i clearly mention that wanting to have sex makes you a normal person. a normal man. wanting penis doesn't since a [b]NORMAL MAN is thought of as straight. [/B]

You claimed you didn't say haveing sex makes you a man, and I quoted you wrong, LOL!

Originally posted by Sado22

huh? i remember posting and quoting things many times NOT specifically in THIS forum though. i've been quoted and pasting links for you since we came across each other.

That's not my main point, you called me a lazy ass despite posting cody's profile when you were reluctant to do so. I posted evidence YOU should have, you claimed cody went to jails for poisons crimes, and refused to post a source.

Originally posted by Sado22

che...
you remember when i corrected you about garou MOTW? you remember what you said? you basically implied that it does matter to you, right? yet you had a problem cuz i called SF giant impact, 2nd strike.

Vice versa, the reason I didn't care was because when I coorected you about third strike second strike. And how can you use this as an example, when you ignored my correction first I.E. second strike.

Originally posted by Sado22

also, i'm not the one who is getting serious the whole (clearly states himself that he didn't know that everyone was joking) and then starts flaming and then tries to convince the other guy that he was just joking.
you know what it all adds up to, now don't you?

I shot this argument already, yet, you keep bringing this up. I tell you when I'm upset. If I was hiding it, why would I tell you,c'mon, sado. . .

Also, who is Everyone, the only people really debating are me and you.Cut, the BS already.

Originally posted by Sado22

no one knows who is the protagonist. also since Ryu has been the poster boy and is the over all MAIN hero of the series, it isn't too farfetched to assume that he is protagonist of SF2. for all we know, Chunli is the protagonist.

It was either guile or chun li, that's been stated. Ryu's story hasn't been active since alpha. Nevermind he wasn't supposed to even be in Street Fighter 3

Originally posted by Sado22

like i said, if i was worked up i'd be flaming you. i haven't flamed you even though YOU did here and before too.

So, calling me a lazy ass and a stupid kid is not flaming, okay

Originally posted by Sado22

I don't get worked up. You do. that is the sole reason why olympian and I like to mess with you. also i remember saying "i'm enjoying all this in all of my posts" and laughing my ass off at some of your replies.
so whose worked up now?

Right, when you keep bringing up a joke and flame me by calling me some stupid kid, and talking about your english minor your not worked up,please sado.

Hold up, mess with me, LOL That's the funniest shit I've heard all day. You really think you guys are messing with me, you really need to get a wake up call. If I really wanted to get under your skin I could just go to your profile in your site and usie it as ammunition to rip you a new one. I'm just being nice, that's all, lol.

I wanna see how you guys mess with me, with your Hurtful Text, like I said before. Shit isn't that serious.

-

Originally posted by Sado22

you are refusing to see the point i made and are going off at a tangent as always. I'm telling you and narrowing down the whole thing for...and instead of admitting that, you simply turn the attention from the orginial argument. what i said: am i right or wrong? answer me.

No, as always sado, your wrong. You convolute ryu's story because your ignorant of zen applications in eastern martial arts. When I told you there were religous conotations in ryu's actions, you denied it. I can easily quote you,please don't delude yourself.

Originally posted by Sado22

with a cheap shot. and even as a powered up pyscho ryu, lost again.

Originally posted by Sado22

ryo does that too and not just in south town as somethink.

Originally posted by Sado22

i still remember olympian tearing you a new one in the other forum so i don't want to go there. for now though lets just stick to canon facts.

You also can't remeber your own post, get off olypians nutsack because your mentioning way to much. And I addressed all hisarguments point by point.

Originally posted by Sado22

Ryo is famous as well. that is the reason why people actually, actually go Ryo's dojo.

What people?
At one point his dojo was going broke because the lack of students.

Originally posted by Sado22

fan speculation. as of now, we have no proof over what the skill level between akuma and ryu is. and considering ryu got owned by oro (who himself had a draw with toned down akuma), i really doubt it.

How many people are stronger than ryu in street fihgter now a days?

Originally posted by Sado22

ryo never had to go through it cuz he's focused.

Originally posted by Sado22

no get your's checked. on the same tiamat thing, look up under gouken or ryu. its there.

No, it isn't, just like final fight revenge being veriyed to be canon.

Originally posted by Sado22

Ryo won KoF. what was the last tournamnent that Ryu won. he was 23 in Sf1, and 33 in Sf3. in 10 years he won only one tournament.

Originally posted by Sado22

which i not only apologized for, i also remind you that i was mentioning it because in animes internal conflicts is cliched, and then you claimed that ryu began it in videogames, which i reminded you that it was Kazuya, actually. so no, you're wrong.

Actually, you apologised after I reminded you, and I already addressed that when I mentioned zen philosophy.

Originally posted by Sado22

i never critized Ryu for winning one tournament. i criticize him cuz he:
-cheap shotted

Wow, you just finished doing it, here:
"what was the last tournamnent that Ryu won"

Originally posted by Sado22

loses most of his mentioned fights

Because he doesn't have a jobber aura?

Originally posted by Sado22

had to resort to shinshoryuken against Hugo

So, didn't ryo shoot a haoshishoken when fighting king?

Originally posted by Sado22

-makuto put up a fight against him

When was this stated?

Originally posted by Sado22

-lost to ken even though he IS the better fighter (and i'm talking SF2).

Ken is only a little worse.

Originally posted by Sado22

-is over-rated

Originally posted by Sado22

-has no personality

Originally posted by Sado22

oh wait, so only women have moodswings now? sexist aren't we?

I really should insert a mom joke here but, I won't since I'm being nice.

🙄 *gets ready for more "i'm not pissed. see i use lol* 🙄

No, as always sado, your wrong. You convolute ryu's story because your ignorant of zen applications in eastern martial arts. When I told you there were religous conotations in ryu's actions, you denied it. I can easily quote you,please don't delude yourself.

Lost again, he lost to sagat once.

Where, when has he even left southtown?

You also can't remeber your own post, get off olypians nutsack because your mentioning way to much. And I addressed all hisarguments point by point.

What people?
At one point his dojo was going broke because the lack of students

No, actually he won a minor tournament in sf2. I'll post it, he only won one major one.

Actually, you apologised after I reminded you, and I already addressed that when I mentioned zen philosophy.

How many people are stronger than ryu in street fihgter now a days?

No, it isn't, just like final fight revenge being veriyed to be canon

So, didn't ryo shoot a haoshishoken when fighting king?

Wow, you just finished doing it, here:
"what was the last tournamnent that Ryu won"

When was this stated?

Ken is only a little worse.

He's a legend

Are you serious, because I think ken is better than robert,please

I hate ryo, prior to your appearence in this forum I said that. And uh duh, I told you when I was peeved genuis. Now tell me if I was hiding this fact, why would I tell you? Rant,you mean like your doing now? It's not like I dissed moms roasted minced meat , lol.

Your not a behavorial analyst

Nor do you know me

So, where's your evidence I'm worked up, because I post "LOL" at the end of my sentence's?[quote]
evidence is not required when something is THIS obvious. and like i said, i AM a behavior analyst.
[quote]I thought we were having a semi serious discussion with jokes on the side, It became a joke when we brought sex into the conversation.

Who brought up ANAL BEADS
Who brought up uriens THONG
Who brought up Ryu's lack of SExcapades
I know it wasn't me.

Bullshit, as soon as I said that mama joke, you had a titi attack.

Poison was designed to be a girl, capcom of america just had some stupid plot made turning her into a he. Like I said, what's ash excuse?

Wow, minor english literature, I took a class like that in college as well. Published books, ohhh want a cookie?

You really don't know shit about ascetics, do you? The way of the warrior combined with zen goal is to counquer one's self I.E. person vs self.

WTF are you talking about, he did not reject nothing,stop twisting his story FFS! (Now I'm peeved)

No, it wasn't, ryu had a start in alpha. I told you what ryu wanted in his Start to crush strong opponents.

That's not my main point, you called me a lazy ass despite posting cody's profile when you were reluctant to do so. I posted evidence YOU should have, you claimed cody went to jails for poisons crimes, and refused to post a source.

You really don't know shit about ascetics, do you? The way of the warrior combined with zen goal is to counquer one's self I.E. person vs self.

You claimed you didn't say haveing sex makes you a man, and I quoted you wrong, LOL!

Also, who is Everyone, the only people really debating are me and you.Cut, the BS already.

Vice versa, the reason I didn't care was because when I coorected you about third strike second strike. And how can you use this as an example, when you ignored my correction first I.E. second strike.

It was either guile or chun li, that's been stated. Ryu's story hasn't been active since alpha. Nevermind he wasn't supposed to even be in Street Fighter 3

So, calling me a lazy ass and a stupid kid is not flaming, okay

Right, when you keep bringing up a joke and flame me by calling me some stupid kid, and talking about your english minor your not worked up,please sado.

Hold up, mess with me, LOL That's the funniest shit I've heard all day. You really think you guys are messing with me, you really need to get a wake up call. If I really wanted to get under your skin I could just go to your profile in your site and usie it as ammunition to rip you a new one. I'm just being nice, that's all, lol.

Shit isn't that serious.

~Sado
P.S. and before i forget: here's your icecream. my way of saying thankyou for not embarassing yourself any further by coming up with another stale, lame mommy diss.
🤣

Ooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaaay. Ya'll seriously need to calm the hell down. Let's all just agree that Ryo IS a ripoff, Ken gets more trim than a maxi pad, King & Chun Li & Elena are all sexy(especially Elena) in different ways and are well made characters, Ryo's not a well made character and although he's got a lil' more diversity nowadays that SNK should have made a different character to begin with.

http://www.the-trades.com/article.php?id=1356

Hey Brain, is Superman a Doc Savage/Gladiator rip off?

Originally posted by Sado22

always?😆
better look around before you talk, embryo. in fact you're the one who had to say "actually you're right sado" more than i did. not to mention how you bring up speculation to back up yourself, get ranty when i disagree, and when we decide to settle it with facts, it turns out that i am right...as usual.

Right, as usual, oh you mean when you claimed that I only mentioned internal strife as one of ryu's plot points despite mentioning two or how you claimed final fight revenge was canon?

And here's the post I made regarding final fight revenge:

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/street_fighter_plot.txt

You weren't right about those, I can list a bunch of things in this thread alone, like when you mentioned anime and critqued me.

Originally posted by Sado22

lost to sagat as Pyscho Ryu. see tiamat again. its there in Ryu and Sagat's story.

I know he lost to psycho ryu, but you implyed he lost twice to sagat. Here's your post:

"with a cheap shot. and even as a powered up pyscho ryu, lost again."

Again, he lost once to sagat bud.

Originally posted by Sado22

the only one who needs to get off anyone's nutsack here is you who needs to get off ryu's nutsack and realize that not everyone in this world will agree with you. also, i'll address and mention olympian as much as i want to, as long as its relevant.
as for your point by point agrument, ha! that's a laugh. like the one you're doing here....as in making a joke out of yourself.

When did I say everyone will agree with me, you keep going on about random things and when I confront you about it, you either.

1.Ignore the post
2.Give me an answer that doesn't relate to the question.

Here's an example:
"with a cheap shot. and even as a powered up pyscho ryu, lost again."

Here your implying ryu lost to sagat twice, I correct you by saying this:

"Lost again, he lost to sagat once."

And guess who you respond, typical sado post, you "Give me an answer that doesn't relate to my question":

Originally posted by Sado22

lost to sagat as Pyscho Ryu. see tiamat again. its there in Ryu and Sagat's story.

Also, olypian has no relevance in this debate really, you just bring him up because your confused.

Originally posted by Sado22

and after every Kof its full again. people tend to drop out czu its tough.

More like because it sucks.

Originally posted by Sado22

please do..

An official art with a young girl holding onto Ryu's hand is not
that of ojou-san. Instead, villagers so impressed with Ryu are trying
to get him to marry a girl from their village. The caption reads:

At the time of a tour in Asia, it's the victory congratulations at a
village's martial arts tournament, from the village headman "Accept
the girl already!!" says he, the scene of Ryu's gatherings

http://fightingstreet.com/folders/variousinfofolder/variousinfopages/streetfighterplotguide.txt

Originally posted by Sado22

that is why it was cliched. you mentioned that ryu is the first. and i said he isnt. then you mention anime....as usual you missed the point. think about it: did you?
of course not 🙄

No, you mentioned anime first Here:

the one who wants to be stronger: hmmmm seen it before again. again, read any manga or watch any anime and its all over it. protagonist has a couple of fights, realizes he sucks ass, decides that he has to get stronger. B-o-r-i-n-g. c-l-i-c-h-e-d.

Then here:

"internal struggle: hmmm seen that like a billion times before. watch almost any anime and it has the bull about the hero with some darkness in him and how he has to face up to it. its boring as hell and cliched"

I said ryu is the first video game character to have internal conflict, not the first anime character.

I tried to defend ryu with an anime refrence Here:

Also, love intrest in martial arts stories always suck. I can name so many times that writers try to involve love stories in a martial arts novel and it copmpletely derailed the plot by focusing more on their relationship.

This is how you answer:

talk to me about videogames since this is what we're talking about.
Typical sado.

Originally posted by Sado22

its there. look around. i'll go home and post a link if you can't.

no,it's not, I posted it, you were wrong.
I posted his profile, where it says it's not canon already, give it up.

Originally posted by Sado22

and obviously in response to you asking the same question. dah.

BS, you critisized ryu for not winning much tournaments, despite ryo doing the same.

Originally posted by Sado22

makuto story. she challenged him to a fight, fought so impressively that she managed to rescue the sinking dojo of her dad.

She tracks down the famous Ryu and
challenges him. Ryu requests that she show him her best [Official].

http://fightingstreet.com/folders/variousinfofolder/variousinfopages/streetfighterplotguide.txt
Where does it mention what you said?

Originally posted by Sado22

proves nothing. maybe you should knock off your habit of taking up denial as a last resort to save face. read over this whole forum or anyother and you'll understand.

Hypocrite, your always indenial, you snapped when I talked about your mother even though it was a joke and now your trying to cover that fact upl lol.

And denial, I never said he doesn't lose, I'm glad he loses instead of jobbing people like snk does, maybe if you stopped sucking them so hard you would see that.

Originally posted by Sado22

so is takuma. your point?

I mean't in the video game business.

Originally posted by Sado22

Wow, and i'm the guy whose been telling you to cool it since day one. sure.

You weren't evenhere since day, one. Telling me to cool it, sado your the one thats upset here.

Originally posted by Sado22

actually, i am. lots of pyschology and help sessions where i help people. you'd be surprised how good i am at it. seriously, though, i'm not kidding.

I feel sorry for anyone who takes advice from you.

...

Originally posted by Sado22

the whole thing began perfectly fine between you and me and i respected the fact that you were trying not to be rude. in fact even now, despite the tediousness of it all, i am still having fun cuz it gives me something to look forward to as i'm really bored these days (i hate forums in general). see keep 'em coming.

Sado, why are you keep reassuring yourself that everything is cool when it's not. Somehow your assuming that I'm serious and super peeved because you insulted ryu. Nevermind that ryu is not even my favorite fighting game character, I'm not serious at all in this forum, and that this isn't that serious. Telling me to cool off yet, getting peeved because oke about your mother, when in that very same post I told you that. Maybe, you should seek some help because your always confusing things.

Originally posted by Sado22

also the jokes were between me and olympian, not you. you entered and began the king disses and the ryu stuff which olympian and i were just kdding about. so...yeah you got serious🙂

What evidence do you have that I'm serious??? 😕

Originally posted by Sado22

anal beads=joke, you took it too seriously
thongs=joke, you took it too seriously
ryu no sex life=fact, you still swallow it (no puns intended)[/joke]
close thread.

Did I say they weren't joke, I brought them up because they weren't funny for one and because they were well. . . dumb. Even darkstorm told you that in the urien topic. Hey everyone jokes in this forum, but you have to be funny at least. I think your the only one that gets your jokes here. But, I could be wrong, but whatever.

Originally posted by Sado22

no not really. i'm not the one who started flaming cuz i happened to (in your mind) ignore your point. you're the emo, dude. since day one, its you has been acting emo and childish and you still are.

I think your identifying your problems on me, I'm emo becuase I do what exactly. . .correct you?

Originally posted by Sado22

point: she IS a new half and i don't care whose fault it is. ryo's a ripoff in your mind, does it matter to you if i tell you that the same team designed him as ryu. if i look at the thread where olympian handed your butt to you, i guess not.
the fact: you're in denial as always and refuse to see my point.

I don't refuse to see your point, you just twist my rebuttals. I'm starting to see your pattern. You accuse me off something you do, like when you

Originally posted by Sado22

typical case scenario with you not having facts but using plain speculation to prove a point. for all we know Ryu's an agnostic or antheist.

Ryu and Ken Fights

Ryu states to Ken in SF3 that he still has the better win record.
But the way he says it indicates that it's still pretty close.

Alex won the Tournament because Gill let him win ( taking it easy on Alex and not going all out. ) I mean after all he doesn't want to kill the future Messiah.