Originally posted by Howard_JonesBaseless generalisation.
General Consensus is a proven group of morons.
Originally posted by Howard_JonesBecause a quote from Men in Black clearly provides us with the meaning of all that is. I'm reading what you're saying and I'm dismissing it because it's fallacious.
Get over yourself and read what I'm saying instead of dismissing it like a crooked attourney.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Baseless generalisation. Because a quote from Men in Black clearly provides us with the meaning of all that is. I'm reading what you're saying and I'm dismissing it because it's fallacious.
I've given you more than one reference as to why the general consensus is full of imbeciles. Also, the medium does not indicate correct or incorrect. If that's the case, then I guess that the Vietnam War never happened, JFK is still alive, and the Civil War was a farting contest.
Originally posted by Howard_JonesAnd as stated it's a faulty generalisation. The majority of people held an incorrect belief in x situation, therefore the majority of people always hold incorrect belief in all situations? Who comprises "general consensus" with relevance to the current topic?
I've given you more than one reference as to why the general consensus is full of imbeciles.
Originally posted by Howard_JonesNo idea what on earth you're talking about.
Also, the medium does not indicate correct or incorrect. If that's the case, then I guess that the Vietnam War never happened, JFK is still alive, and the Civil War was a farting contest.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And as stated it's a faulty generalisation. The majority of people held an incorrect belief in x situation, therefore the majority of people always hold incorrect belief in all situations? Who comprises "general consensus" with relevance to the current topic?
No idea what on earth you're talking about.
Reading is fundamental.
Originally posted by Soljer
Have Thor or Herc moved planets? Turned wheels on a ship that dwarfed a solar system? One shotted planets? Held a black hole? Travel at superluminal velocities in a double black hole? Easily toss a small moon? Arm wrestle someone like Ba'al? Lift eternity?Yeah, lemme know.
"Have Thor or Herc moved planets?"
Yes, actually they have. Thor has done so many times by simply hitting his opponent, or in an arm wrestling match.
"Turned wheels on a ship that dwarfed a solar system?"
The ship's weight was never established. All we see is Superman pulling some big chains, thats about as hyperbolic as Hercules "hold the earth" feat.
"One shotted planets?"
Superman's never one shotted a planet. Thor's never tried, but his exact equal has.
"Held a black hole?"
Superman didn't hold a black hole. All he did was stop it from opening. However Thor has physically resisted the gravity of a neutron star, punched through dimensional barriers, etc.
"Travel at superluminal velocities in a double black hole?"
Flying out of a black hole really isn't that impressive.
"Easily toss a small moon?"
The moon isn't even that large, like the size of Texas or something like that. Fishing and lifting the Midgard Serpent is much more impressive.
"Arm wrestle someone like Ba'al"
Thor's been in physical matchup's against Mangog, Kurse, Drax with the power gem, etc.
"lift Eternity?"
All he did was catch the fall of a being who's weight wasn't even established. All we know is that he was heavy, and he had the help from WW.
Originally posted by Howard_JonesFalse analogy, and faulty generalisation. Unless you mean to say that a) comparison of Superman and Hercules strength is akin to technological advancement changing perception of the natural world and b) all those in agreement that Superman is stronger, and are thus part of "the general consensus" are consequently imbeciles.
Because it's a general consensus that Superman is stronger than Hercules. Thus the relevance.
Originally posted by Howard_JonesSo is writing in an intelligible manner.
Reading is fundamental.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
The ship's weight was never established.
The size of the ship was stated on panel to "DWARF THE SIZE OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM." Not to mention, 99% of our solar system's size is empty space, so there goes your argument right out the window.
Not only is the ship larger than the solar system, it's also HELL of a lot more massive, and heavier. 😱
Originally posted by Soujaboy
All we see is Superman pulling some big chains, thats about as hyperbolic as Hercules "hold the earth" feat.
Mageddon's ship MOVED because of Superman's actions. He moved an object that is many times more massive, larger, and heavier than our solar system. There's NOTHING hyperbolic about that statement. There's no room for interpretation, even from your EXTREMELY biased point of view.
Come back when you actually have a clue what the hell you're talking about.
Thanks.
Originally posted by batdude123
The size of the ship was stated on panel to "DWARF THE SIZE OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM." Not to mention, 99% of our solar system's size is empty space, so there goes your argument right out the window.Not only is the ship larger than the solar system, it's also HELL of a lot more massive, and heavier. 😱
Mageddon's ship MOVED because of Superman's actions. He moved an object that is many times more massive, larger, and heavier than our solar system. There's NOTHING hyperbolic about that statement. There's no room for interpretation, even from your EXTREMELY biased point of view.
Come back when you actually have a clue what the hell you're talking about.
Thanks.
Ok Batdudue show us where it's stated on panel to be this big, because in the scan you showed us the ship wasn't "hell of a lot more massive, and heavier, than the earth. The ship you showed us was nowhere near as big as you claim.
It has nothing to do with being biased, just Superman's hyperbolic feats. You'd do the same thing if I provided you with an iffy scan.
Come back when you actually have the proof to back your claim.
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Punching has to do with strength. How and where to punch in order to hurt the opponent more, now that is more with skills.
Yeah, in real life. The stronger your muscles are (And you also need to have the necessary technique, you can't be stiff etc) you punch faster and harder.
A Hulk, who can lift 100 tons. Punches. It has been said that Hulk can't move his limbs at superhuman speed.
Imagine this.
You, punching something (Let's say a 10 year old) to the face with all your might. Now the kid is KOed (Unless you're VERY weak, or a bad puncher) as the sole force in the impact is huge.
Now, imagine a bodybuilder. slowly extending his hand against something (Let's say the 10 year old again. I hate those) The 10 year old is knocked down, but not necessarely KOec. If the 10 year old were resisting this punch with superhuman might, then the punch would KO him, but normally he'd just knocked back or something.
It's really hard to explain. A character who weights 120 lbs with a 100 ton strenght.. Sigh. Logically Hulk couldn't punch THAT hard if he doesn't have a superhuman limb speed, but the writers don't stop to think that. Or then he has and I'm just remembering something wrong..