Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker?

photo pic please...lol

Indeed.

I say Anakin. He's cutest.

You don't like black leather?

Originally posted by The Sith'ari
OT Vader is a slow and unskilled piece of shit, Anakin would merk him in saber combat, but it's been shown that Vader's force mastery is beyond Anakin's, even if his connection has been weakened.

Vader is a slow and unskilled piece of shit 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

In a saber match, Anakin, with Force powers its close, i don't know.

If AVder is unskilled, what does that say about Anakin?

Let's not forget... Anakin had become Vader before Mustafar - remember - after Mace Windu died... he was Vader then.

That wasn't really the point.

Originally posted by Sexyback
Kadesh, you do realise that it's a fact that Vader sucks ass, the highest and only true form of canon shows this, and GL has indicated as much, so any source that has Vader doing anything special is rendered invalid, simply because it contradicts the fact that Vader sucks ass, bad. Baring in mind, this is only in respect to saber dueling.

If Star Wars characters are brittled down into simple, computer game opponents like happens so horribly often, then the real point of the characters and their actions are completely lost.

In this case, most of you seem to have taken villain down from his throne as one of the most memorable, evil and scary villains on the screen and presented him into your geek arena as a Yorkshireman in a costume, designed when many of the lightsaber/jedi traits remained undeveloped.

Yes, comparing those two forms of Anakin in the context you are giving does show that a Hayden Christiansen pretending to be a Ninja with the help of CGI would probably beat a clunky old body builder from Northern England in some fan-fictional "swordfight", but alot of you don't seem to take into account that if CGI technology and EU material were available to use with the PT, then Darth Vader could only then be comparable to Anakin.

Meaning? A leaping and jumping Darth vader in the OT?

Vader lept after Luke in TESB in the carbon chamber.

Yoda and Dooku never lost skills due to their age, Sidious was also an old freak. So in theory I see no reason why Obi Wan and Vader would be total noobs just because the original movies aren't over the top in people flying across the room.
In my opinion it's very childish to regard them as nothing, especially considering the SW technology allowed Vader enough flexibility and strength that you can expect in sci fi.
And what would the reason be of the deteriation of Kenobi's skill?

If we're gonna be wiseguy kids then we can also just say that the most offensive and defensive fighting styles don't need no crazy flip flops and are just effective no nonsense forms.

Wasn't their an explanation for Kenobi becoming weaker, it goes something like this.
His injuries from the Clone wars finally caught up with him and because he lived in such a harsh environment, away form any medical facility.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Wasn't their an explanation for Kenobi becoming weaker, it goes something like this.
His injuries from the Clone wars finally caught up with him and because he lived in such a harsh environment, away form any medical facility.

That a silly explaination to make the ridiculousness of the PT seem feasible.

THe explanation is that during filming of the OT they didn't think of lots of leaping and jumping around. When the PT came around OB1 and Vader were suddenly discarded as "old and/or disabled".

Yes, but they still needed to com up with some explanation from the story point of view.

Unfortunately yes. Suddenly the great heroes of the OT were turned into relics and cripples... just to save the PT's face.

Explanation to correct my earlier post*

...I don't think they need to come up with an explanation to show how Vader's "skill with uber force magic and lightsaber'eeeeeness decreased". I think people should have the cunning to realise that one set of films was made in the late 70's and the next lot 20 years later...and therefore, a comparison between the two is a little ridiculous.