Martian Manhunter VS Thor

Started by thtadthtshldntb7 pages

Thor can teleport anything that he can whirl Mjollnir about.

You are aware that Thor can perceive Through dimensions?

Thor can also phase. What is MM going to do to a phase Thor? Nothing, but Thor has magical attacks.

I am ridiculous?

Where are MMs years of uber feats?

Thor has appeared in probably somewhere over 2000 comicbooks. Probably more.

Btw, Thor is also millions of years old. He does not remember much of it as classic Thor due to the manipulations of TWSAIS though.

Thor does not have to spend all his willpower and concentration to do so. He just ignores many uber telepaths.

Let's see who effortlessly mind controlled Thor before....
...ummm.
...ummm.....

the Goddess, you know the being with 18 BLOODY COSMIC CUBES!!!!!

There are beings who clearly beat Thor (Darkseid, Thanos, etc) or whom he will break even with (Orion for example). MM is not in that class.

Originally posted by Validus
Vs forum sucks.

Thank you!

Originally posted by Validus
Vs forum sucks. I come here for entertainment but all the real discussion is in the general comics forum.
Even though we disagreed this time I agree with you 100% on this.

Originally posted by Accel
Thank you!

Hey, I think the rest of that post was relevant too.

disgust

IT's really easy, every op controls the rules of the match. All you have to do is list that no one can use a power in a match that they haven't used at least 2 times. or 3 times or what ever. that pretty much kaboshes Thor from 80% of his victories. And Superman looses that God aweful T-vo power.

Originally posted by Validus
Hey, I think the rest of that post was relevant too.

disgust


Personally, I don't contribute much discussion in the comics forum. I also don't get as much joy out watching debates any more around here a I used to.

Lately, most of my free computer time as been dedicated to watching subbed episodes of One Piece on you tube for my entertainment.

Originally posted by Accel
Personally, I don't contribute much discussion in the comics forum. I also don't get as much joy out watching debates any more around here a I used to.

Lately, most of my free computer time as been dedicated to watching subbed episodes of One Piece on you tube for my entertainment.


I find myself doing similar things though I've never seen One Piece.

Originally posted by Accel
Personally, I don't contribute much discussion in the comics forum. I also don't get as much joy out watching debates any more around here a I used to.

Lately, most of my free computer time as been dedicated to watching subbed episodes of One Piece on you tube for my entertainment.


Youtube ftw. I've been watching a lot of K1 fights on there lately. 😂

Originally posted by Validus
What's sad is thinking Thor wins 80% of the time. 🙁

If I were to believe the Thor supporters in here, I'd think he was taking on Celestials everyday of the week.

if i were to believe green lantern supporters around here, i'd think they were making hundreds of uber powered GL copies and containing big bangs everyday of the week.

some characters just don't work well under KMC perimeters.

To hell with feats, based on characters abilities, Ill have to hand it to MM on a very slight majority. Strength isnt a deciding factor on battles, being versatile is, and well as are a varsatility goes, MM has almost everyone beat.

MM 6/10

Thor wins this battle easy. What can MM do to him?

Everyone EXCEPT Thor. As another poster stated, Thor has almost as many bizarre one time use abilities as pre-crisis superman does.

In terms of strength, he's essentially unlimited. In terms of speed, he's been shown going 3x light speed under his own power. He's taken out intangible beings before (vision) and was able to restructure his OWN molecules when shadowcat phased him into concrete. He's beaten surfer on more than one occasion, and surfer >> manhunter in nearly EVERY respect. He can teleport anywhere in the universe and has fought INSIDE the sun and in muspelheim, which very well may be hotter. Isn't the manhunter still vulnerable to fire? Teleport to muspelheim- game over for MM.

I'll give him a few showings, but more likely than not, it's Thor, 7/10

Originally posted by UniOmni
See, the problem with people who rely on feats alone, is that they negate their own argument in the long run.

Jesse7 said that Thanos couldn't be as strong, if not stronger than Superman, since he doesn't have lifting feats that outdo Superman.

You say the same in regard to Thor and MM.

MM doesn't have the pure lifting feats that Thor does. So what?

Darkseid hasn't lifted squat, but we know he's above the top tier in strength.

Same for DD. And Thanos.

I can see who MMs beaten, who i'd put on the level or above Thor.
Thor might be a hair stronger than MM.

But it won't be like Hulk vs Wonder Girl.

They're peers, if not equals.

And frankly, thats me being generous, since in all honesty, DC on average plays on a larger scope than Marvel does, currently.

Marvel, big punches = characters knocked a mile or two.

DC big punches = characters knocked off planet, or around the world.

MM has shown he can beat people on Thors level.

Ultraman, Etrigan, Supergirl(didn't beat her, but he bloodied her with one hit, and her durability> Thors) Sbp(didn't beat him, but knocked him for a loop) and more.

Or above it, depending on who you ask.

And don't get me started on the absurdness that is Thors speed.

He has the edge in travel speed. Thats it.

MM thinks faster, reacts faster, and is smarter.

And J'onn doesn't have to take punches.

Thats the beauty of being a premier shape/mass changer, and premier phaser.
He can literally roll with the punches.

Ulik and Durok hurt Thor, but someone who's likely stronger and much faster won't?

Ha!

And the best thing about Thorbags, is that the best stuff happened when he was in a beserker rage, and everything else is over a decade old!

Haha!

I'm not Jesse whoever and as I stated before, we can compare lifting and battle feats and Thor will still trump MM.

Although lifting feats are a good tool to measure strength, I stated we could use battle feats to. It's simple, Thor's battle and Strength feats trump MM's.

Thor's beaten characters way above MM's lv, in fact more times than the other way around.

They may be peers, but there no equals. As stated, Thor's battle and lifting feats blow MM's out of the water.

Good point, but it means nothing in this debate.

Thor's been shown to beat or stalemate characters way above MM. Silver Surfer, Mangog, Drax with the PG, BRB, Captain Marvel, Galactus, etc. These may not be his normal every day showings, but they are fairly common.

Supergirl's durability being greater than Thor's is debatable.

Um Thor can also swing ad Through Mjolnir at light speeds, faster than even MM's traveling speed.

He may be able to roll with the punches, but I'm positive he can't roll with being BFR'd or being hit with a godblast.

Durok and Ulik could probably give MM a run for his money, especially Durok.

Your right though, besides Ragnarok Thor hasn't done anything impressive outside of battles in the last decade or so.

Originally posted by manorastroman
if i were to believe green lantern supporters around here, i'd think they were making hundreds of uber powered GL copies and containing big bangs everyday of the week.

some characters just don't work well under KMC perimeters.


LOL. You're flat out lying. Nobody ever debates for GL using top feats only unless some other moron in the opposition tries it. Personally I think debating who has the most powerful ultimate attack is pretty ghey (yes, ghey).

Originally posted by Validus
LOL. You're flat out lying.

🤨

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Thor. I get that MM is supposed to be a real powerhouse when he's written well, but it seems he never is.

The first page of this is littered with account restricted...

Thor creates chocoballs? (don't remember MM's addict food not a big follower). MM becomes helpless to resist. Or Ollie's chili that was so recently posted on the ownage thread.