Originally posted by The Weather GodA normal human gun slinger can get two to three shots off in 1 second now with DP’s superhuman reflexes and abilities he should be able to get either more or a faster single shot off and I haven’t seen any thing that says Storm can create her effects in that time frame.
No he would be freid with the others.
Originally posted by The Weather God
[B]I am not worried about her weather manipulation of temperatures. Only her manipulation of wind which was done in a split second in the scan with emma. No other scan has been provided of weather manipulation of wind which means that's the only scan we can go by in the split second one..
It's still Emma..though...it's not Storm...Emma is a telepath she'd naturally be able to process thoughts faster.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
My point exactly...because that's how Storms powers work. However Emma is a telepath...telepaths have been shown to link with multiple minds "instantly"...meaning her processing speed would be completely different to Storms. It's basically a telepaths mind in Storms body.Storms actual processing speed:
http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledqx0.jpgAgain I'm not commenting on the fight just the scan that was used.
You know what I find very interesting? Why don't you look up Black Sun issue 2 where Storm instantly freezes an entire area. 😄
Heck, better yet, what about the time where a guy fired a gun at Bishop, yet in the space of time from the bullet leaving the gun and it reaching Bishop's location, Storm whips up a wind that moves Bishop's out of the bullet's path.
Originally posted by Rutog98
You know what I find very interesting? Why don't you look up Black Sun issue 2 where Storm instantly freezes an entire area. 😄Heck, better yet, what about the time where a guy fired a gun at Bishop, yet in the space of time from the bullet leaving the gun and it reaching Bishop's location, Storm whips up a wind that moves Bishop's out of the bullet's path.
Already did...it doesn't say that she freezes it instantly dear...
Give me the issue number and I'll go and see...
Originally posted by Rutog98
You keep parading that picture around, but I can't see any panel on there that states that the attack was in the "literal blink of an eye." So, all you have done is brought up an issue where her attack was slower than it has been in other issues. That tactic does not work in these debates.
"Literal blink of an eye"
That's still relative....
You could have a guy whose literal blink of an eye takes longer then a second...
Originally posted by ThePittman
A normal human gun slinger can get two to three shots off in 1 second now with DP’s superhuman reflexes and abilities he should be able to get either more or a faster single shot off and I haven’t seen any thing that says Storm can create her effects in that time frame.
Well we are still in the works of finding a solid scan of storm's speed in doing a wind manipulation, but your still talking like dp gets to start off with a gun to shoot storm. If he does then it's only fair that storm gets a thunderstorm cloud over his head. Which then would hit first a bullet or lightning?
Originally posted by The Weather GodIt is assumed that DP would have his normal weaponry; I’m not saying that it would be in his hand it would still be holstered but that doesn’t effect what I have been saying he still can get the shot off. However Storm already has weather around her and for her to have a lighting cloud over head would be the same as DP having the gun already in hand. If they both shot at the very same moment the bullet would still be fired and he would be hit by the lighting so a double kill, well DP would survive from it but this comes down to who goes first.
Well we are still in the works of finding a solid scan of storm's speed in doing a wind manipulation, but your still talking like dp gets to start off with a gun to shoot storm. If he does then it's only fair that storm gets a thunderstorm cloud over his head. Which then would hit first a bullet or lightning?
Originally posted by xmarksthespotI do 😛
So does no one get the difference between an idiom and an actual measure of time.
Originally posted by ThePittman
It is assumed that DP would have his normal weaponry; I’m not saying that it would be in his hand it would still be holstered but that doesn’t effect what I have been saying he still can get the shot off. However Storm already has weather around her and for her to have a lighting cloud over head would be the same as DP having the gun already in hand. If they both shot at the very same moment the bullet would still be fired and he would be hit by the lighting so a double kill, well DP would survive from it but this comes down to who goes first.
No he'd be fried before he could pull the trigger, that's just how fast lightning is. Everyone knows once storm haves a thundercloud over head you better run for your lives. If dp doesn't start off with his gun then he'd still get fried by storm lightning from her hands before he could pull the gun out. 😉
Originally posted by The Weather GodThat would mean that she went first, I said if they both fired at the same time they would both get hit. The question is that DP can fire reasonable 3 times in 1 second with the gun being holstered and I have seen nothing that says Storm can created a lighting bolt, wind or whatever in that time frame, as a gun slinger she is not that fast.
No he'd be fried before he could pull the trigger, that's just how fast lightning is. Everyone knows once storm haves a thundercloud over head you better run for your lives. If dp doesn't start off with his gun then he'd still get fried by storm lightning from her hands before he could pull the gun out. 😉
The speed of lighting and the speed of the bullet really don’t come into play here, it is the reaction time between the two shooters and which is faster or can use their power the fastest.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
They never stated the speed at which Storm was using Emma's powers...but since the power itself is thought and execution as one...it wouldn't surprise if she was using it at the speed of thought since that is how telepathy works.
So now that Storm is in Emma’s body, she automatically gets a speed thought boost, even though she was never been formally trained in telepathy.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
What I'm saying is a telepathically trained mind..who is able to link up with multiple minds with a thought...should be able to process thoughts faster.
Okay, so you’re assuming?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Emma was using her own telepathically trained mind.
Which shouldn’t make a different.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Blink of an eye is relative...
And a split-second is not?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
No I have a scan where it says it takes seconds for her to manipulate weather patterns and drop the temperature...she's manipulating the same weather patterns.
We also have a scan that shows that Storm’s mutant abilities can manipulate the weather in a split-second.
IMHO, your on very thin ice on this one mostly because you assuming something without fact to back you up. Also keep in mind that she is not doing the same thing in your picture. Calling forth a jetstream takes less time then creating a localized rainstorm with sub-zero temperatures
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
You have to provide proof that her powers work faster otherwise we go by my scan of her manipulating weather patterns to drop the temperature. [/B]
Storm was doing more the one thing in that scan. IIRC, she was dropping the temperature at the same time she was creating rain and winds in a specific area. A mere lightning bolt would need less thought.
Anyway as you said earlier, I’m not trying to get into another Storm vs. anybody thread this week
Originally posted by ThePittman
That would mean that she went first, I said if they both fired at the same time they would both get hit. The question is that DP can fire reasonable 3 times in 1 second with the gun being holstered and I have seen nothing that says Storm can created a lighting bolt, wind or whatever in that time frame, as a gun slinger she is not that fast.The speed of lighting and the speed of the bullet really don’t come into play here, it is the reaction time between the two shooters and which is faster or can use their power the fastest.
Lol you really don't understand how storm's power works do you? storm thinks of a lightning bolt and it will still strike at the same speed of a regular lightning bolt. The bell goes off saying start, the cloud is already over his head when the bell sounds. bam! lightning hits him before he even know's it, probrobly even before he can pull the dam trigger. 😛 Only difference is storm can use her powers while she moves the hell out of the way before the bullet gets her. 😂
Originally posted by HandOfFate
So now that Storm is in Emma’s body, she automatically gets a speed thought boost, even though she was never been formally trained in telepathy.
No but..but the telepathy works by thought and execution as one.
http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm384pg11cn8.jpg
So whatever speed Storm thinks at that's how fast her telepathy would work that is the nature of telepathy.
IIRC It never stated how fast Storms telepathy was working...so I don't see what you're trying to get at.
Okay, so you’re assuming?
Well linking with over 30 minds with a single thought is no mere feat. Downloading a whole lifetime of telepathic techniques instantly is no slow feat.
Which shouldn’t make a different.
Different people think at different speeds it should.
And a split-second is not?We also have a scan that shows that Storm’s mutant abilities can manipulate the weather in a split-second.
IMHO, your on very thin ice on this one mostly because you assuming something without fact to back you up. Also keep in mind that she is not doing the same thing in your picture. Calling forth a jetstream takes less time then creating a localized rainstorm with sub-zero temperatures
Do you have a better scan that shows the scope of her powers.
Storm was doing more the one thing in that scan. IIRC, she was dropping the temperature at the same time she was creating rain and winds in a specific area. A mere lightning bolt would need less thought.
Aren't you doing what you accused me of doing?
Anyway as you said earlier, I’m not trying to get into another Storm vs. anybody thread this week [/B]
Fair enough
Originally posted by The Weather GodI know how here powers work and you keep missing things that I said. OK, first off if she has the cloud over head then DP has his gun out and pointed. DP’s reaction time is faster then Storms or do you disagree with that as well? They both have to think about what they are going to do one pull the trigger and the other make lighting so if they both started at the same time then the bullet has already left the chamber and the lighting has hit him unless he is already dodging and yes he can dodge and fire at the same time. We are not talking about the speed of the bullet or the speed of lighting but their REACTION times and when they can do them.
Lol you really don't understand how storm's power works do you? storm thinks of a lightning bolt and it will still strike at the same speed of a regular lightning bolt. The bell goes off saying start, the cloud is already over his head when the bell sounds. bam! lightning hits him before he even know's it, probrobly even before he can pull the dam trigger. 😛 Only difference is storm can use her powers while she moves the hell out of the way before the bullet gets her. 😂
Originally posted by ThePittman
I know how here powers work and you keep missing things that I said. OK, first off if she has the cloud over head then DP has his gun out and pointed. DP’s reaction time is faster then Storms or do you disagree with that as well? They both have to think about what they are going to do one pull the trigger and the other make lighting so if they both started at the same time then the bullet has already left the chamber and the lighting has hit him unless he is already dodging and yes he can dodge and fire at the same time. We are not talking about the speed of the bullet or the speed of lighting but their REACTION times and when they can do them.
I've seen no proof that dp can react faster then storm, still storm could strike everyone with lightning on the start of the match at the same time. I also see what your talking about with the start bullet already being fired. My point was that lightning will still destroy the whole team from the start, including dp.
Originally posted by The Weather GodI’m not saying that he couldn’t be hit by the lighting it is very possible however he can dodge it just as much as anyone with heightened reflexes. I have seen no proof that she can create lighting or wind in a fraction of a second and DP can fire multiple shots in that time.
I've seen no proof that dp can react faster then storm, still storm could strike everyone with lightning on the start of the match at the same time. I also see what your talking about with the start bullet already being fired. My point was that lightning will still destroy the whole team from the start, including dp.
DP reflexes from Marvel
“Due to the presence of this superhuman healing ability, many of Deadpool's natural physical attributes have been enhanced. Deadpool's musculature generates considerably less fatigue toxins than the muscles of an ordinary human being, granting him superhuman levels of stamina in all physical activities. His natural strength, agility and reflexes have been enhanced to levels that are beyond the natural limits of the human body. Deadpool's agility and reaction time are superior to those of even the finest human athlete.”
Storm doesn’t have heightened reflexes and her reaction time is that of a well train fighter.
Originally posted by ThePittman
I’m not saying that he couldn’t be hit by the lighting it is very possible however he can dodge it just as much as anyone with heightened reflexes. I have seen no proof that she can create lighting or wind in a fraction of a second and DP can fire multiple shots in that time.[b]DP reflexes from Marvel
“Due to the presence of this superhuman healing ability, many of Deadpool's natural physical attributes have been enhanced. Deadpool's musculature generates considerably less fatigue toxins than the muscles of an ordinary human being, granting him superhuman levels of stamina in all physical activities. His natural strength, agility and reflexes have been enhanced to levels that are beyond the natural limits of the human body. Deadpool's agility and reaction time are superior to those of even the finest human athlete.”Storm doesn’t have heightened reflexes and her reaction time is that of a well train fighter. [/B]
Sorry for the delay. Storm should know what she's up against and move the hell out of the way when the bell rings in order to not get blasted on. It's only going to take her roughly a second to create a pressure dome to block those bullets, and once she haves it up there is absiloutly nothing deadpool can do. He is the only key factor that can not be fully reliable for an easy 10/10 win every time. Storm takes this 6/10 because we can not simply rely on him just shooting. let's also remember that he haves to grab the gun and aim at storm 30 yards away. There's a 70/80 chance she could jump out of the way or he can miss, when and if he does storm own the entire team.
Originally posted by The Weather God
Ok since your still on storm vs cyke i give him the win since he is able to blast without pressing the button or removing his visor. One question tho, can he blast full with his visor on?
Full? You mean like a visor-less blast...with his visor on? 🤨
No. No he can't. But he can still blast with SUBSTANTIAL power even with his visor on. His visor is mostly for accuracy. The power of his beams are still INCREDIBLY strong even with it on.
