Storm vs ......

Started by ThePittman10 pages

Originally posted by The Weather God
Ok what gun does dp carry all the time, he can't carry an army of guns on him at the same time? Keep in mind that he won't be starting off with the gun already pointed at storm so i'm not even sure he would even get his gun out in time to block an attack by storm because she could easy use air pressure to knock the gun of his hand. 😕

DP has been seen carrying several guns which normally include one or two pistols, one or two semi-automatics and all of his bombs and other stuff. Any good gun slinger has it at his side as most anyone who carries a pistol keeps it as their side, they also in the time frame that I have been talking about get their gun out and fire off the 3 shots in that 1 second, I have said this several times.

You keep skipping over what I say and going back to an old topic and just keep repeating yourself. She can’t move that fast and use her powers that fast.

Originally posted by ThePittman
DP has been seen carrying several guns which normally include one or two pistols, one or two semi-automatics and all of his bombs and other stuff. Any good gun slinger has it at his side as most anyone who carries a pistol keeps it as their side, they also in the time frame that I have been talking about get their gun out and fire off the 3 shots in that 1 second, I have said this several times.

You keep skipping over what I say and going back to an old topic and just keep repeating yourself. She can’t move that fast and use her powers that fast.

I don't ignore it i say there's a good chance that storm can just jump on her side as he shoots. Just think about it, when the bell rings dp pulls out his gun and starts firing by that same time storm is already jumping to her side to dodge the bullets......That's it... that's all she needs to do, because by that time the second would be up and the dome is up to protect her. She is now free to unleash her fury on all of them, you can't simply rely on three shots(with a 30 yard distance) on a highly experience women in combat. It's just not exceptable

Storm 6 out of 10

Originally posted by The Weather God
Storm is athlete performance and is well trained for combat as of such. It will not be PIS if she dodged three bullets 30 yards away. He has to reach for his back to even grab the dam gun and by that time storm would have noticed he was about to shoot.

All that says is = Not able to dodge three bullets from such a distance.

She has peak human reflexes. She can predict the paths of the bullets and just hope she's avoiding said paths. However, at the MOST, she'll dodge one. Then the next one gets her.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
All that says is = Not able to dodge three bullets from such a distance.

She has peak human reflexes. She can predict the paths of the bullets and just hope she's avoiding said paths. However, at the MOST, she'll dodge one. Then the next one gets her.

Peak Human?

Doubtful... 😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
Peak Human?

Doubtful... 😬.

I'm giving Storm the benefit of the doubt.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I'm giving Storm the benefit of the doubt.

That's a pretty big benefit.

Peak Human reflexes >>>>>>>>>>Trained athletic level reflexes

Originally posted by Metalmanx
All that says is = Not able to dodge three bullets from such a distance.

She has peak human reflexes. She can predict the paths of the bullets and just hope she's avoiding said paths. However, at the MOST, she'll dodge one. Then the next one gets her.

He'll have to shoot three time randomly fast in order to save his skin, once that second hit he's toast.

Originally posted by Soljer
That's a pretty big benefit.

Peak Human reflexes >>>>>>>>>>Trained athletic level reflexes

Then you don't have a clue half the things she's done in the past.

Originally posted by The Weather God
I don't ignore it i say there's a good chance that storm can just jump on her side as he shoots. Just think about it, when the bell rings dp pulls out his gun and starts firing by that same time storm is already jumping to her side to dodge the bullets......That's it... that's all she needs to do, because by that time the second would be up and the dome is up to protect her. She is now free to unleash her fury on all of them, you can't simply rely on three shots(with a 30 yard distance) on a highly experience women in combat. It's just not exceptable

Storm 6 out of 10

How is she going to “predict” the path of the bullets when she can’t even see the gun being drawn and where he will be aiming? The best she could do is to try and guess where he will shoot and even then with three shots (now remember this is a normal human feat, DP should be able to shoot more) he will have a center mass shot one to the left and one to the right plus his reflexes are above human and can react to her movement and lead the shot.

Plus I don’t know why you keep bringing up that she fries everyone after the first volley, no one is arguing that at all. We all agree that she can protect herself from bullets and do all that, we are talking about her reaction time and avoiding the first volley of shots.

Originally posted by ThePittman
How is she going to “predict” the path of the bullets when she can’t even see the gun being drawn and where he will be aiming? The best she could do is to try and guess where he will shoot and even then with three shots (now remember this is a normal human feat, DP should be able to shoot more) he will have a center mass shot one to the left and one to the right plus his reflexes are above human and can react to her movement and lead the shot.

Plus I don’t know why you keep bringing up that she fries everyone after the first volley, no one is arguing that at all. We all agree that she can protect herself from bullets and do all that, we are talking about her reaction time and avoiding the first volley of shots.

You don't get it do you, he doesn't have time to think about where to shoot, he haves to draw the gun and shoot in order to get even three shots at storm. When the bell rings storm already jumps to her side to dodge the bullets, it doesn't matter how fast dp's reflexes are he'll still need to draw and pull the trigger in order for the bullets to be shot, your talking as if he can shoot her at lightspeeds before she can even move.❌

Originally posted by The Weather God

Then you don't have a clue have the things she's done in the past.

Prove to me that she's peak human, and we'll talk.

But even if she is? Deadpool's reactions are enhanced quite a bit beyond peak human.

Originally posted by Soljer
Prove to me that she's peak human, and we'll talk.

But even if she is? Deadpool's reactions are enhanced quite a bit beyond peak human.

Proven by the simple fact that she's beaten super humans with super powered reflexes like marrow or calisto. That make sense to you? She's lead the x-men team into battle with no powers at all.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Emma Frosts mind in Storms body. That's not Storms mind...Emma Frost is a telepath....that whole feat is down to Emma having a telepathically trained mind.

Storms powers with a telepaths mind....that's when her powers work in a split second.

You’re just pulling stuff out of the air with that "Emma's telepathically trained mind" line. No where in that issue does it say that her mind (telepathically trained or otherwise) amped Storm's mutant ability to control the weather. Now if this was Emma with her telepathic abilities, plus Storm's powers, you might have a leg to stand on but at least you don't.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
"Storm is limited by the force of her will and the strength of her body."

In that scan you have:

Storms body:
Emma Frost(A telepaths) Will/Mind...

Still doesn’t disprove the scan or anything I said about Storm’s mutant abilities.

Also, you should keep in mind that Storm’s will, might be greater then Emma’s

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Originally posted by ExodusCloak
It's an Emma Frost feat...

You can call it an Emma feat if you like but it’s still Emma using only Storm’s mutant abilities.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
(And that scan will be going in Emma's respect thread very soon)

OOOOOOOOOkay. Keep in mind its still Storm power without any outside help.

Originally posted by The Weather God
You don't get it do you, he doesn't have time to think about where to shoot, he haves to draw the gun and shoot in order to get even three shots at storm. When the bell rings storm already jumps to her side to dodge the bullets, it doesn't matter how fast dp's reflexes are he'll still need to draw and pull the trigger in order for the bullets to be shot, your talking as if he can shoot her at lightspeeds before she can even move.❌
I get it you don’t, have you ever seen the skill and precision of a good gun slinger? I have seen someone toss a coin in the air and they shot it before it hits the ground well within a second so that is drawing the gun, aiming and shooting within a second and this is normal human reflexes and senses. With his reflexes he will have made the first shot even before she has moved. You keep thinking that each bullet will follow the same path which he wouldn’t because he would lead the bullets to the possible directions that she would go, one center mass then left and right.
Originally posted by The Weather God
Proven by the simple fact that she's beaten super humans with super powered reflexes like marrow or calisto. That make sense to you? She's lead the x-men team into battle with no powers at all.
That doesn’t mean a thing because one those are not even in her skill level, just because someone has faster than human reflexes doesn’t mean they also know how to use them.

Originally posted by Soljer
Finally! A thread storm can win...

😂

Originally posted by The Weather God
You don't get it do you, he doesn't have time to think about where to shoot, he haves to draw the gun and shoot in order to get even three shots at storm. When the bell rings storm already jumps to her side to dodge the bullets, it doesn't matter how fast dp's reflexes are he'll still need to draw and pull the trigger in order for the bullets to be shot, your talking as if he can shoot her at lightspeeds before she can even move.❌

What if Deadpool shoots to the "side" where Storm will be "dodging"?

And actually, my friend, having superhuamn reflexes against a trained athlete's reflexes means that he can whip out the gun and probably get off a couple of rounds before she can counter.

Originally posted by ThePittman
I get it you don’t, have you ever seen the skill and precision of a good gun slinger? I have seen someone toss a coin in the air and they shot it before it hits the ground well within a second so that is drawing the gun, aiming and shooting within a second and this is normal human reflexes and senses. With his reflexes he will have made the first shot even before she has moved. You keep thinking that each bullet will follow the same path which he wouldn’t because he would lead the bullets to the possible directions that she would go, one center mass then left and right.

I've seen them do that but this won't be the case of storm i'm afraid

Originally posted by ThePittman
That doesn’t mean a thing because one those are not even in her skill level, just because someone has faster than human reflexes doesn’t mean they also know how to use them.

Storm beat both of these ladies without her power 😕 Both ladies have super human abilities marrow haves a healing factor.

Also since storm can react in a half second, he won't even get three shots. 😆

Originally posted by The Weather God
I've seen them do that but this won't be the case of storm i'm afraid

I can’t help it if you are in self denial 😉 but this has everything to do with it. You keep saying that he is shooting a light speed and can’t aim but I have shown to you a normal human doing these feats and DP is above human. You also haven’t responded to the fact that he can lead the shots so if she moves to the left or to the right she still gets hit and this is your only defense.

Originally posted by The Weather God

Storm beat both of these ladies without her power 😕 Both ladies have super human abilities marrow haves a healing factor.
Did you not read my post? I didn’t say anything about her using her powers; they are not in Storm’s skill level, she could and can kick their butt without her powers.

Originally posted by The Weather God

Also since storm can react in a half second, he won't even get three shots. 😆
Not this again, there is no proof that she can. The scan is not a valid one because of the Emma factor, show me one scan that shows her using her powers in a “split-second”.

Originally posted by ThePittman
I can’t help it if you are in self denial 😉 but this has everything to do with it. You keep saying that he is shooting a light speed and can’t aim but I have shown to you a normal human doing these feats and DP is above human. You also haven’t responded to the fact that he can lead the shots so if she moves to the left or to the right she still gets hit and this is your only defense.

He get's one shot and that dome is up. he better hope it gets her head.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Did you not read my post? I didn’t say anything about her using her powers; they are not in Storm’s skill level, she could and can kick their butt without her powers.

What makes you think he's in storm's skill level and calisto's not?

Originally posted by ThePittman
Not this again, there is no proof that she can. The scan is not a valid one because of the Emma factor, show me one scan that shows her using her powers in a “split-second”.

Yes it is a valid one because it was emma frost inside of storm, emma diden't have her powers inside of storm. Emma manually manipulated the weather just like storm, what difference does it make if it wasen't storm and what proof do you have that storm's power takes seconds to work? Your basing your argument off of pure speculation ❌

Originally posted by The Weather God
He get's one shot and that dome is up. he better hope it gets her head.

What makes you think he's in storm's skill level and calisto's not?

Yes it is a valid one because it was emma frost inside of storm, emma diden't have her powers inside of storm. Emma manually manipulated the weather just like storm, what difference does it make if it wasen't storm and what proof do you have that storm's power takes seconds to work? Your basing your argument off of pure speculation ❌

Man you keep talking in circles and I’m getting tired of this. First off I have proven that a human gun slinger can fire and aim 3 shots in 1 second so this is not a question he will get off AT LEAST 3 shots. You have not proven that Storm can use her powers in less then a second and using a scan that is already debated is not proof; show me a scan of her using her powers without any influence from Emma or an outside force, then you can say that other wise let that scan go.

The fact that you can even think that Storm is in the level of H2H as DP is showing you lack of knowledge and proving that you are such a fanboy of Storm. Storm is far above Marrow and Calisto in fighting ability and she doesn’t need her powers to defeat them, they are not nearly as trained and experienced as Storm and DP is above Storm.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
You’re just pulling stuff out of the air with that "Emma's telepathically trained mind" line. No where in that issue does it say that her mind (telepathically trained or otherwise) amped Storm's mutant ability to control the weather. Now if this was Emma with her telepathic abilities, plus Storm's powers, you might have a leg to stand on but at least you don't.

It doesn't but people think at different speeds...even you and I process things at different speeds....especially when you take telepaths into account...now where else does it state that Storm can pull it off in a split second. It's Emma's doing.

Still doesn’t disprove the scan or anything I said about Storm’s mutant abilities.

It does since it depends on both body and mind.

Also, you should keep in mind that Storm’s will, might be greater then Emma’s

Might...and telepaths have feats that show they think quicker then the average person.

You can call it an Emma feat if you like but it’s still Emma using only Storm’s mutant abilities.

With Emmas mind. Emma has feats where she links up with over 30 brains immediately...and causes each and every one of those people to orgasm....you're telling me that she doesn't process things at a highers speed then the average person.

OOOOOOOOOkay. Keep in mind its still Storm power without any outside help.

Storms power Emmas mind...telepaths have feats where they link up with crowds of people immediately...that in itself shows they think quicker...Emma learnt a lifetime of telepathic techniques from Astrid immediately...again it shows they think quicker...

If you are so sure Storms powers work this way then why can't you find another scan which does not involve Emma Frost telepathically trained mind....I mean I found one...it says seconds...

Fact of the matter is...it's an Emma feat and it's a really good one indeed.

BTW Don't forget that Physics of the X-Men book WG showed us which said seconds...that temperature backs up the information in the book.

Originally posted by The Weather God

Yes it is a valid one because it was emma frost inside of storm, emma diden't have her powers inside of storm. Emma manually manipulated the weather just like storm, what difference does it make if it wasen't storm and what proof do you have that storm's power takes seconds to work? Your basing your argument off of pure speculation ❌

It's a naturally acquired skill that's why it's not that much of gap....seconds to split second....

Proof = the scan I showed on the previous page where it says seconds.

Also remember that Physics of the X-Men book you showed us...that book said seconds as well.