Storm vs ......

Started by HandOfFate10 pages
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
It doesn't but people think at different speeds...even you and I process things at different speeds....

True but that doesn’t make Emma, the next best thing to a super-computer.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
especially when you take telepaths into account...now where else does it state that Storm can pull it off in a split second. It's Emma's doing.

Emma doing with Storm’s mutant powers.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
It does since it depends on both body and mind.

From what I’ve seen over the years Storm might have Emma beat.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Might...and telepaths have feats that show they think quicker then the average person.

Emma doesn’t have telepathy in that scan, its all Storm’s mutant powers.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
With Emmas mind. Emma has feats where she links up with over 30 brains immediately...and causes each and every one of those people to orgasm....you're telling me that she doesn't process things at a highers speed then the average person.

I’ve seen the scan and if I remember correctly it doesn’t give you a time frame on how long it took Emma to do that. It could be the same amount of time it took Storm to create a hurricane over several blocks of New York City.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Storms power Emmas mind.

It really doesn’t matter, it could have been Squirrel Girl in Emma’s place during the storyline and it still would have been Storm’s mutant abilities.

The book shows Storm mutant ability creating something in a split-second and that all you need to know. All that other stuff you’re trying to say is pointless, when you have the evidence staring you in the face.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
[B]True but that doesn’t make Emma, the next best thing to a super-computer.

The gap isn't that big to call her a super computer...it's a gap of one second. Actually it's a gap of half a second.

Emma doing with Storm’s mutant powers.

From what I’ve seen over the years Storm might have Emma beat.

Emma's mind...not in the thought processing department.

Emma doesn’t have telepathy in that scan, its all Storm’s mutant powers.

An acquired skill...like if you read a lot you process things faster..it's basically training your mind.

I’ve seen the scan and if I remember correctly it doesn’t give you a time frame on how long it took Emma to do that. It could be the same amount of time it took Storm to create a hurricane over several blocks of New York City.

Yes but even then it's Jean talking and Emmas in Diamond Form...it's like 30 people in a very short time.

It really doesn’t matter, it could have been Squirrel Girl in Emma’s place during the storyline and it still would have been Storm’s mutant abilities.

Not Storms mind though.

The book shows Storm mutant ability creating something in a split-second and that all you need to know. All that other stuff you’re trying to say is pointless, when you have the evidence staring you in the face.

If it's not Storm...then you can't use it as evidence for Storm.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
It was freezing and then...the temperature of the "Elemental Tempest" = Rain, Wind etc.. dropped and added to the drop in temperature of the Robot. It took time for her meterological effect to drop the temperature.

Storm is the one controlling the Elemental Tempest...

Look up the definition of tempest and then look at the difference in panel art in both panels.

Lol so now your saying storm made raindrops cold, where on earth does it say that? It say's....

As storm's elemental tempest radically drops the temperature around the mandroid in a matter of seconds.....

Where does it say that storm made the rain drops cold or that storm manually drops the temperature around the mandroid? Storm created the rainstorm and that dropped the temperature around the mandroid not storm.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Lol so now your saying storm made raindrops cold, where on earth does it say that? It say's....

As storm's elemental tempest radically drops the temperature [B]around the mandroid in a matter of seconds.....

Where does it say that storm made the rain drops cold or that storm manually drops the temperature around the mandroid? Storm created the rainstorm and that dropped the temperature around the mandroid not storm. [/B]

No I'm saying it was the combined effort of the Elemental Tempest that dropped the temperature....the wind is most probably what gets cold...and the panel states it's a tempest which is wind + rain or gale etc. In this case it's rain.

Storm created Freezing Rain...which was turned into an Elemental Tempest.

A tempest is not only rain.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
No I'm saying it was the combined effort of the Elemental Tempest that dropped the temperature....the wind is most probably what gets cold...and the panel states it's a tempest which is wind + rain or gale etc.

Storm created Freezing Rain...which was turned into an Elemental Tempest.

A tempest is not only rain.

But the panel never states how long it took for storm to create it, only that it took a matter of seconds for the mandroid's temperature to drop.

Originally posted by The Weather God
But the panel never states how long it took for storm to create it, only that it took a matter of seconds for the mandroid's temperature to drop.

The panel shows her create the rain first right? We can agree on that.
In the next panel it becomes an "Elemental Tempest"(Wind +Rain) and it takes seconds to drop the temperature around the mandroid. So in order for her to drop the temperature of the tempest(Particularly the wind) it took seconds...that's the feat I was referring to.

See the difference in panel art...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The panel shows her create the rain first right? We can agree on that.
In the next panel it becomes an "Elemental Tempest"(Wind +Rain) and it takes seconds to drop the temperature around the mandroid. So in order for her to drop the temperature of the tempest(Particularly the wind) it took seconds...that's the feat I was referring to.

It wasen't a regular freezing rain storm that the maindroid thought it was. Storm created a tempest and that dropped the temperature around the mandroid in seconds, it never stated how long it took storm to create the tempest and that is all that matters no matter if it took seconds for the mandroid's temperature to drop.

As stated 59 seconds is still a matter of seconds.

Originally posted by The Weather God
It wasen't a regular freezing rain storm that the maindroid thought it was. Storm created a tempest and that dropped the temperature around the mandroid in seconds, it never stated how long it took storm to create the tempest and that is all that matters no matter if it took seconds for the mandroid's temperature to drop.

Ah but you see it took seconds to drop the temperature of the mandroids SURROUNDINGS not the mandroid itself...which is effectively the tempest itself.(Particularly her wind)

The whole feat is her dropping the temperature of her tempest(Particularly the Wind seeing how the rain was freezing already)..which takes her seconds.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Ah but you see it took seconds to drop the temperature of the mandroids SURROUNDINGS not the mandroid itself...which is effectively the tempest(Particularly her wind)

No the tempest was already created it took seconds for the mandroid to feel the effects.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
As stated 59 seconds is still a matter of seconds.

It never stated how long it took storm to create the tempest only that it took seconds for the temperature to drop around the madroid.

Originally posted by The Weather God
[B]No the tempest was already created it took seconds for the mandroid to feel the effects.

The freezing rain was created not the tempest...look at the panel art.
A Tempest is a strong gust with rain...the strong gust only appears in the second panel.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The whole feat is her dropping the temperature of her tempest(Particularly the Wind seeing how the rain was freezing already)..which takes her seconds.

It never stated that storm dropped the temperature after she created the tempest but that the tempest dropped the temperature of the mandroid.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The freezing rain was created not the tempest...look at the panel art.
A Tempest is a strong gust with rain...the strong gust only appears in the second panel.

Both panels show the same effects except the one with storm show's the machine exploding.

Originally posted by The Weather God
It never stated that storm dropped the temperature after she created the tempest but that the tempest dropped the temperature of the mandroid.

The tempest dropped the temperature AROUND the mandroid. Which as I said earlier is the atmosphere/tempest itself...the wind etc...

The wind is shown to be stronger in the second panel hence more strokes.. and white stuff around the mandroid in the second panel is the atmosphere getting colder.

Storm is effectively controlling the tempest itself.

Originally posted by The Weather God
It never stated how long it took storm to create the tempest only that it took seconds for the temperature to drop around the madroid.
Which could be two seconds of could be 20. Static images and idioms do not give good indication of actual timeframe. Intuitively the weather effects take several seconds additional to her reaction and/or thought.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The tempest dropped the temperature around the mandroid. Which as I said early is the tempest itself...the wind etc...

The wind is shown to be stronger in the second panel hence more strokes.. and white stuff aroundthe mandroid in the second panel is the atmosphere getting colder.


lol no that's speculation you can clearly see no new effects except for the mandroid exploding to peaces.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Which could be two seconds of could be 20. Static images and idioms do not give good indication of actual timeframe. Intuitively the weather effects take several seconds additional to her reaction and/or thought.

Which is pricisely why the scan is no good since we have no idea how long it took storm to create the tempest, it could have taken no time at all to create it but taken several seconds for the mandroid's temperature to drop

Originally posted by The Weather God
lol no that's speculation you can clearly see no new effects except for the mandroid exploding to peaces.

The white stuff surroundin the Android means it's getting colder but anyway.

Okay answer these questions...
Who created the tempest?

What is responsible for the drop in temperature of the surroundings?

Who's the one controlling the tempest?

Therefore who is the one who has to manually drop the temperature of the tempest in the first place?

For the tempest to drop the surroundings, it itself has to be getting colder. So as the tempest radically drops so does the atmosphere surrounding the mandroid.

BTW Storm doesn't just leave a storm to do whatever it wants to..she's contanstly manipulating it's weather patterns so that the surroundings aren't damaged...and only her target is effected.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Okay answer these questions...
Who created the tempest?

Storm

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
What is responsible for the drop in temperature of the surroundings?

The freezing rain tempest not storm

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Who's the one controlling the tempest?

Storm created the tempest and that dropped the temperature around the mandroid as the panel state's Storm's elemental tempest drops the temperature

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Therefore who is the one who has to manually drop the temperature of the tempest in the first place?

The tempest was already cold and when it came into contact with the mandroid it stopped it's temperature not storm.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
BTW Storm doesn't just leave a storm to do whatever it wants to..she's contanstly manipulating it's weather patterns so that the surroundings aren't damaged...and only her target is effected.

The panel states the tempest drops the temperature not storm

Originally posted by The Weather God
Storm

The freezing rain tempest not storm

Storm created the tempest and that dropped the temperature around the mandroid as the panel state's [B]Storm's elemental tempest drops the temperature

The tempest was already cold and when it came into contact with the mandroid it stopped it's temperature not storm. [/B]

Correct for 1,2,

Almost for 3....wait actually you got 3 right.

Not sure about 4...

The rain was cold...the atmosphere around the mandroid wasn't(We know this because the temperature of the surroundings did not drop yet) and therefore the wind around it wasn't....which means the tempest wasn't.

Storm is the one constantly manipulating the tempest therefore she's the one responsible for the drop...she has to manipulate it to make it drop otherwise the wind in the tempest won't.
It's the tempest as a whole...you already got the freezing rain..now you need the wind to drop.