Superman, Martian Manhunter and Kilowog versus BRB, Gladiator and Surfer

Originally posted by carver9
batdude123 I can tell that you love superman, I do to but gladiator is far better than him. Like i said before gladiator have weak showing more than superman does is because he's a villian. It is stated on all of gladiator bios that his strength and speed is unlimited. Stop using that junk about wonderwoman was suppose to look good against superman, she was his superior in that comic, she held back the entire time and was still winning. She could have killed superman from what me and you and have seen and it happened, so deal with it. Venom also mud stomped superman and spiderman at the same time what happened to superman speed then, can we say that it didnt work. I know you will call that PIS but it happened just like the cannonball thing with gladiator (even though gladiator wasnt defeated and even though cannonball absorbed the impact of a punch that was going to knock him from earth to the moon. Superman have been owned by spiderman (who had the aid of luthor, had spiderman surrounded in red sunlight) spiderman was slapping superman all around that city until luthor took the light away from him. Like I said I love superman, I have his emblem all around my house but I know his capabilities and I know gladiator capabilities and thors and superman cannot win against them. By the way superman cant fly from the earth to the moon, it is stated on his page on dc.com that it takes superman 2 to 3 min to fly from earth to the moon. It was also classified in the wizard book that had superman on the front cover that superman can only move at the speed of sound, not light. They said that he dont come close to that speed anymore. Now precrisis superman yeah he did move at that speed but post sups will never do that again but gladiator live his life moving at that speed.

Gladiator isn't better than Superman. Period.

And yes, that story arc was to make WW look good. Company politics suggested it should be WW to fight Superman, rather than Kyle, Wally, or J'onn. OF COURSE they were going to make her look good. The fight was also horribly written. Superman couldn't even hear her when she was RIGHT BEHIND HIM. Anybody sneaking up on Superman is h-o-r-r-i-b-l-y written.

WW didn't even win that fight. She LOST. She was smacked from the sun to the earth in milliseconds. Superman wasn't in his right mind either.

It's also good to see that you're using the noncanon x-over that had Superman fight Venom. Also, probably one of the biggest cases of PIS ever. You love Superman, and yet somehow you're using that instance? Pffffffft. Get that shit outta here.

Right... and when he had the red solar radiation taken away from him, Superman proved how insignificant Spider-man was in terms of strength.

For someone who THINKS he knows about Superman's abilities, you know absolutely shit. I really don't care if your entire house is modelled after the fortress of solitude, you know absolutely CRAP about Superman.

Oh, and we use actual feats here. We don't go by websites or bios when it comes to limiting a person's power. Superman is faster than light, and has shown to go way passed the speed of light as well. You again, know crap about Superman's speed.

Please... stop talking. You fail.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all, if Glads strength was limitless, he wouldn't have gotten more powerful when he got the Unipower. How can you increase someone's power when they are already limitless. Thanks, try that one again. Glads is a copy and a copy is never as good as the original. Supermna wins on sheer originality. And he also wins becuz Glads has gotten Taken down by far less than Superman. The best thing you can say is Diana was hanging with Superman. A woman who can beat the hulk. I'd say it's not such an embarrassment for Superman. But certainly Glads has been humiliated before by far less than Wonder Women.

Well let me put superman to shame. He got beat up by venom and even had the aid of spiderman and still got stomped out. He got beat up by spiderman, now thats funny. He got punched once by captain marvel and was knocked the hell out. He recently got shot by a gl ring and was knocked out. Back in the days he fought and old batman that had a power suit on and got mud stomped and almost died. Like I told you before gladiator is a villian he is made to lose. Lets use some good feats of gladiator. He grabbed a space ship the size of a state that flew towards the planet earth at blinding speed while carrying a ship of that size. He picked up the baxter building with one hand that is 35 stories high. He took a super nova blast that lit up the entire solar system and flew out of it without a scratch. He swimmed in stars, fought tyrant but he lost but did good. Stalemated silver surfer. He moves much faster than superman, MUCH faster. Stop putting superman over everyone, he has great powers but he isnt the most powerful being out there. By the way hyperion came out before gladiator and still got his neck snapped. Also hyperion from the exiles that fought every hero on the planet and won is also a superman rip off but he would kill superman without a thought.

Originally posted by carver9
Well let me put superman to shame. He got beat up by venom and even had the aid of spiderman and still got stomped out. He got beat up by spiderman, now thats funny. He got punched once by captain marvel and was knocked the hell out. He recently got shot by a gl ring and was knocked out. Back in the days he fought and old batman that had a power suit on and got mud stomped and almost died. Like I told you before gladiator is a villian he is made to lose. Lets use some good feats of gladiator. He grabbed a space ship the size of a state that flew towards the planet earth at blinding speed while carrying a ship of that size. He picked up the baxter building with one hand that is 35 stories high. He took a super nova blast that lit up the entire solar system and flew out of it without a scratch. He swimmed in stars, fought tyrant but he lost but did good. Stalemated silver surfer. He moves much faster than superman, MUCH faster. Stop putting superman over everyone, he has great powers but he isnt the most powerful being out there. By the way hyperion came out before gladiator and still got his neck snapped. Also hyperion from the exiles that fought every hero on the planet and won is also a superman rip off but he would kill superman without a thought.

You obviously dont' know how to use the theory of relativity. Superman's world and Universe if filled with beings near his lvl of power. Gladiator is not. So Glads feat look so aweinspiring over at marvel. In DC, that shit happens every other day. Superman can Lift the Gaza pyramid without breaking a sweat. That trumps the baxter building any day.

Supers can simply KO Glads with sonics.....

...hey...if it worked for Blackbolt...

Originally posted by carver9
Well let me put superman to shame. He got beat up by venom and even had the aid of spiderman and still got stomped out. He got beat up by spiderman, now thats funny. He got punched once by captain marvel and was knocked the hell out. He recently got shot by a gl ring and was knocked out. Back in the days he fought and old batman that had a power suit on and got mud stomped and almost died. Like I told you before gladiator is a villian he is made to lose.

Silver Surfer has been owned by a brick to the head.

Gladiator was wtf pwned by the Hulk.

Spider-man beat Firelord.

Silver Surfer was pwned by Storm's lightning.

Gladiator was owned by Cannonball.

Gladiator was owned by GAMBIT.

Gladiator was stalemated in a strength contest against Colossus.

Thor was stated that he could't take a bullet.

Thor was KO'd by a rock.

You were thinking you could actually out debate me about Superman.

It's ALL crap... 😐

You fail, now get out.

batdude123 you dont know what youre talking about, if the writter says that superman flies at 2000 mps and if other writter say the same thing than what make you think that your answer overrides theres. You dont write superman books, you just read them, just like I do. When you become the writer of his books then you make him move as fast as you want but until then Im going by what they say. As for the wonderwoman thing, she beat him, I dont care if it was suppose to look like that or not she won and held back like she said. I can also tell that you never read that book before. Yeah superman did fly her by the sun and he did punch her from the sun to the earth then superman flew down and froze the entire crater that she was punched in. He turned around like the fight was over and wonderwoman busted free. Superman stood still trying to hear where she was and she ended up clanging her bracelet against his ears saying "with his super hearing that had to hurt." his ears start to bleed while he was screaming in pain and she start to beat him down saying to herself "Im going to hold back because superman isnt responsible for any of this that is going on and she beat him to the ground and was going to walk off until superman grabbed her by the arm and broke her risk. Wonderwoman then called upon some birds to attack superman and he easily spinned them off but when he looked around wonderwoman was gone. She went and found max lord and threatened him but superman end up showing up and wonderwoman took off her tier and threw it at superspeed slicing superman throat, (she could have killed him then but she snapped max lord neck instead). Now you know what happened, learn from it and buy the book its a good book.

Originally posted by carver9
batdude123 you dont know what youre talking about, if the writter says that superman flies at 2000 mps and if other writter say the same thing than what make you think that your answer overrides theres. You dont write superman books, you just read them, just like I do. When you become the writer of his books then you make him move as fast as you want but until then Im going by what they say. As for the wonderwoman thing, she beat him, I dont care if it was suppose to look like that or not she won and held back like she said. I can also tell that you never read that book before. Yeah superman did fly her by the sun and he did punch her from the sun to the earth then superman flew down and froze the entire crater that she was punched in. He turned around like the fight was over and wonderwoman busted free. Superman stood still trying to hear where she was and she ended up clanging her bracelet against his ears saying "with his super hearing that had to hurt." his ears start to bleed while he was screaming in pain and she start to beat him down saying to herself "Im going to hold back because superman isnt responsible for any of this that is going on and she beat him to the ground and was going to walk off until superman grabbed her by the arm and broke her risk. Wonderwoman then called upon some birds to attack superman and he easily spinned them off but when he looked around wonderwoman was gone. She went and found max lord and threatened him but superman end up showing up and wonderwoman took off her tier and threw it at superspeed slicing superman throat, (she could have killed him then but she snapped max lord neck instead). Now you know what happened, learn from it and buy the book its a good book.

I fail to see how your using Superman's fight with Wonder Woman as a Put down to Superman. If anything, it's more of a come up for Wonder Woman to be able to do as well as she did. Which was the purpose of the Book. not to bring Superman down a notch, but to bring WW up a couple notches. In his right mind, Superman would have never fought diana like he did. He knows she is a master fighter and woudl adjust accorindly. In that fight, he was out of his mind with rage and thinking he was fighting a dumb doomsday. THe fight was a perfect way to make Diana look good without making him look bad. I dont' see how come you can't see that.

Originally posted by batdude123
Silver Surfer has been owned by a brick to the head.

Gladiator was wtf pwned by the Hulk.

Spider-man beat Firelord.

Silver Surfer was pwned by Storm's lightning.

Gladiator was owned by Cannonball.

Gladiator was owned by GAMBIT.

Gladiator was stalemated in a strength contest against Colossus.

Thor was stated that he could't take a bullet.

Thor was KO'd by a rock.

You were thinking you could actually out debate me about Superman.

It's ALL crap... 😐

You fail, now get out.

Batdude you dont know nothing about comics, anything that you write, Im going to ignore because everything you said was hilarious. 😆

As for the gladiator and colossus fight, colossus didnt pose any kind of threat against gladiator but colossus is a powerful character anyway, so im not going to down him. Ill be sending you some picks and sites, I hope it make you realise the truth, Ill be back.

Originally posted by carver9
batdude123 you dont know what youre talking about, if the writter says that superman flies at 2000 mps and if other writter say the same thing than what make you think that your answer overrides theres. You dont write superman books, you just read them, just like I do. When you become the writer of his books then you make him move as fast as you want but until then Im going by what they say. As for the wonderwoman thing, she beat him, I dont care if it was suppose to look like that or not she won and held back like she said. I can also tell that you never read that book before. Yeah superman did fly her by the sun and he did punch her from the sun to the earth then superman flew down and froze the entire crater that she was punched in. He turned around like the fight was over and wonderwoman busted free. Superman stood still trying to hear where she was and she ended up clanging her bracelet against his ears saying "with his super hearing that had to hurt." his ears start to bleed while he was screaming in pain and she start to beat him down saying to herself "Im going to hold back because superman isnt responsible for any of this that is going on and she beat him to the ground and was going to walk off until superman grabbed her by the arm and broke her risk. Wonderwoman then called upon some birds to attack superman and he easily spinned them off but when he looked around wonderwoman was gone. She went and found max lord and threatened him but superman end up showing up and wonderwoman took off her tier and threw it at superspeed slicing superman throat, (she could have killed him then but she snapped max lord neck instead). Now you know what happened, learn from it and buy the book its a good book.

Christ... another David_Richards. 😬

I've read the book.

You're an IDIOT who knows shit about Superman. Go home.

Gladiator isn't as good as Superman. Please read Superman books. If you did, you wouldn't actually be using the Venom NONCANON x-over as a source.

Please learn from your stupidity, and quite spouting crap.

Superman has flown well past the speed of light before.

Superman has moved an object that has dwarfed the solar system.

Superman is more versatile than Gladiator.

The illogical tripe that's being uttered from your ignorant posts are simply retarded.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I fail to see how your using Superman's fight with Wonder Woman as a Put down to Superman. If anything, it's more of a come up for Wonder Woman to be able to do as well as she did. Which was the purpose of the Book. not to bring Superman down a notch, but to bring WW up a couple notches. In his right mind, Superman would have never fought diana like he did. He knows she is a master fighter and woudl adjust accorindly. In that fight, he was out of his mind with rage and thinking he was fighting a dumb doomsday. THe fight was a perfect way to make Diana look good without making him look bad. I dont' see how come you can't see that.

What i wrote wasnt against you are superman, I wanted someone who never read the book, that said that the fight ended with superman punching wonderwoman from the sun to earth. Wonderwoman is a great character but she also dont have nothing on glads and that would be a good arguement to use against superman.

Originally posted by carver9
Batdude you dont know nothing about comics, anything that you write, Im going to ignore because everything you said was hilarious. 😆

I know crap about comics, but you're using the Spider-man/Venom x-overs as a source for your arguments? 😆 hysterical2

You fail... miserably.

Originally posted by carver9
What i wrote wasnt against you are superman, I wanted someone who never read the book, that said that the fight ended with superman punching wonderwoman from the sun to earth. Wonderwoman is a great character but she also dont have nothing on glads and that would be a good arguement to use against superman.

I never said the fight ended with Superman punching her from the sun to the earth. I simply stated it HAPPENED.

Pleae learn to read.

Who is Carver and why is he upset?

Look here and it will show you that gladiator strength is incaculable.

http://www.marveldatabase.com/Gladiator_(Imperial_Guard)

Originally posted by Badabing
Who is Carver and why is he upset?

He's upset 'cause Superman is more powerful than he thinks he is. 😬

Originally posted by carver9
Look here and it will show you that gladiator strength is incaculable.

http://www.marveldatabase.com/Gladiator_(Imperial_Guard)

That pic is badass but the site isn't like 100 percent relyable.

Here's 1 of Glads pre-crisis Superman level feat..

His punch carries enough power to born star a new..
Redicolous but so some PC Supes feat.. Id consider him very lite PC...

Originally posted by Roldz
Here's 1 of Glads pre-crisis Superman level feat..

His punch carries enough power to born star a new..
Redicolous but so some PC Supes feat.. Id consider him very lite PC...

Post Crisis Superman has stalemated Pre-Crisis Superman.

Originally posted by batdude123
Post Crisis Superman has stalemated Pre-Crisis Superman.

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