Fat People

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Common sense? Please do elaborate on that. I am curious.

The matter of the fact is, a lot of 'common sense'' bullshit is not actually that. It is a myth believed by a lot of people then passed on like a common sense.
Perfect example being Mother teresa and her ''holyness'' and the ideas on ''rape''.
Eitherway...

Young black males are bombarded with bullshit they SHOULD do and the way they SHOULD behaive even if they don't want to do so.
It is a cultural backlash of the consumerist culture.

There are plenty of those people who have testified to the fact that if they do not feel like doing something they are dictated to by the media and certain peers, they are often accused of acting ''white'' (whatever that means).

This is not a ''selected few'' acting that way - it is a whole subculture of people.

People who DO NOT fit that profile are those who have resisted it, because they had the means to do so.

I am not claiming there is a ''one-fit-all'' theory - but when a trend begins to happen, one should not ignore it for a politically correct ''common sese'' excuse.

I would submit the following as common sense.

Do you feel, that of the world's population of black people, at least 50 percent plus one person eat fried chicken prodigiously, listen to hip-hop, and are consumerist?

Secondly, so as not to invalidate such a conclusion- do you feel that all other 'races' have a smaller percentage that take part in these activities?

i like fried chicken. i like hip hop. i like saving money.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Do you speak without thinking? You clearly said 'Is it me or...'. I said 'It's you'.

Seems perfectly sensible to me.

No, he quite clearly said 'the majority of black people', with no qualification at all.

listen i dated the same jamaican chick twice over a 10 year period for about 3 years in total
ive been surrounded by black people,i may sound like im generalizing with my comments but its a fact
i have total qualification to comment
its harsh but true
but what ive stated is a fact

put it this way
i saw a black girl with a skateboard and a Pixies t shirt last week and it was if i saw a martian
good luck to her

Originally posted by Alfheim
No its not sensible at all. You didnt answer the question.

Try to follow. You said, Is it me, or 'x'?

Two options. Firstly, it is you. Secondly, it is x.

My answer: it is you.

Simple. (Also like you)

Originally posted by Alfheim

Er if you read his post he was refering to the black people in his area.

🙄

Well, let's read it together, shall we?

Originally posted by vintageSW77

i find that they assume they have to be funny because they are fat
much like the majority of black people assume they have to listen to rNb,Hip Hop,be materialistic over tacky shit and eat fried chicken.

Do point out where location is specified.

Originally posted by vintageSW77
listen i dated the same jamaican chick twice over a 10 year period for about 3 years in total
ive been surrounded by black people,i may sound like im generalizing with my comments but its a fact
i have total qualification to comment
its harsh but true
but what ive stated is a fact

put it this way
i saw a black girl with a skateboard and a Pixies t shirt last week and it was if i saw a martian
good luck to her

You are generalising. That's a fact.

the whole "blacks are bad" BS is worse than ever here in texas. we have alot of hurricane evacuees that are still here, and man, they are for the most just terrible people.
something about louisiana people.

Originally posted by vintageSW77
listen i dated the same jamaican chick twice over a 10 year period for about 3 years in total
ive been surrounded by black people,i may sound like im generalizing with my comments but its a fact
i have total qualification to comment
its harsh but true
but what ive stated is a fact

put it this way
i saw a black girl with a skateboard and a Pixies t shirt last week and it was if i saw a martian
good luck to her

You're an idiot.

i like your pigtails.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Try to follow. You said, Is it me, or 'x'?

Two options. Firstly, it is you. Secondly, it is x.

My answer: it is you.

Simple. (Also like you)

Cant be bothered with this a simple yes or no would have sufficed.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

Well, let's read it together, shall we?

Do point out where location is specified.

Well

Originally posted by vintageSW77
i said materialistic tack and majority

live near a major uk black area and the majority are obsessed with materialism often above there means

There you go. Use a bit of common sense and context he live in Manchester most of the black people he woulmd have met would be from Manchester therefore he is talking about black people in his area.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

You are generalising. That's a fact.

No hes not he sound a bit bitter thats all. Im from South London and alot of black people in my area are similar as well. Same with parts of North London, why are you still arguing. Obvoulsy not all black people are like that but he is going by what he knows and I can verfiy in my experience that there is truth to this.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
You're an idiot.

Of course he is. He white and hes saying bad things about black people therefore that automatically makes him an idiot, because you cant say anything bad about black people because their perfect.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Cant be bothered with this a simple yes or no would have sufficed.

Understanding would have sufficed.

Originally posted by Alfheim

There you go. Use a bit of common sense and context he live in Manchester most of the black people he woulmd have met would be from Manchester therefore he is talking about black people in his area.

That's what we call generalising, isn't it?

Originally posted by Alfheim

No hes not he sound a bit bitter thats all. Im from South London and alot of black people in my area are similar as well. Same with parts of North London, why are you still arguing. Obvoulsy not all black people are like that but he is going by what he knows and I can verfiy in my experience that there is truth to this.

He's not generalising you say?

How very weird. I wonder if I stepped out of this argument, you would continue fighting yourself in a cartoon puff of smoke and fists.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Of course he is. He white and hes saying bad things about black people therefore that automatically makes him an idiot, because you cant say anything bad about black people because their perfect.

Next time, if you want to add some bullshit onto the end of your post, just type *bullshit*.

Saves time.

no one is perfect, least of all black people and white people.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I would submit the following as common sense.

Do you feel, that of the world's population of black people, at least 50 percent plus one person eat fried chicken prodigiously, listen to hip-hop, and are consumerist?

Secondly, so as not to invalidate such a conclusion- do you feel that all other 'races' have a smaller percentage that take part in these activities?

I don't know where the ''friend chicken'' thing came from.

Hip-hop culture has been modified in such way that poverty is glamorised, while at the same time chatting about how one should get what one wants my any means.

I believe this is V complex.

And other 'races' have exactly the same amount of participation but in a different sub-cultures, of similar nature.

Dependant on the socio-economic status, gender, sexuality and peers, these sub-cultures change.

Examples - there is a substantial raise in girl gang culture- these gangs of girls are mixed, with a majority of working class white females.

Other 'races' have the same amount of participation in like subcultures (''chav'' culture, for example) but they are different for each of them, and they depend, as i already stated, on range of factors.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't know where the ''friend chicken'' thing came from.

Fried. It's in the original post.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness

Hip-hop culture has been modified in such way that poverty is glamorised, while at the same time chatting about how one should get what one wants my any means.

I believe this is V complex.

So what? Do most black people listen to, and follow the teachings of, hip-hop? Bear in mind the scope of hip-hop.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness

And no other 'races' have exactly the same amount of participation but in a different sub-cultures, of similar nature.

Dependant on the socio-economic status, gender, sexuality and peers, these sub-cultures change.

Examples - there is a substantial raise in girl gang culture- these gangs of girls are mixed, with a majority of working class white females.

Other 'races' have the same amount of participation in like subcultures (''chav'' culture, for example) but they are different for each of them, and they depend, (I, personally would argue) largly on socio-economic background.

Not sure of the relevance of all that.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Of course he is. He white and hes saying bad things about black people therefore that automatically makes him an idiot, because you cant say anything bad about black people because their perfect.

And now you're an idiot.

I don't care that he's saying bad shit about black people, what made him and idiot was this little gem:

i saw a black girl with a skateboard and a Pixies t shirt last week and it was if i saw a martian
good luck to her

Oh yea, and this part was good

i have total qualification to comment

😆

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Understanding would have sufficed.

I cant be bothered you're being a smartass.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

That's what we call generalising, isn't it?

I see if hes going to talk about black people is he going to talk about black people in Manchester or black people in Ghana?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

He's not generalising you say?

How very weird. I wonder if I stepped out of this argument, you would continue fighting yourself in a cartoon puff of smoke and fists.

Im making lots of sense you are just ignoring what im saying and not making an effort to understand. Im aware that not all black people are like that but there are a significant amount of black people who are. I mean even in Sierra Leone when they started kiling each other one group of soldiers called themselves The West Side Boys...wonder where they got their inspiration....

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

Next time, if you want to add some bullshit onto the end of your post, just type *bullshit*.

Saves time.

Listen im going to leave you with some thing Chris Rock said. You know Chris Rock the black comdeian who I think grew up in Harlem or Brooklyn this is what he said.

"There are black people and there are n***** and the n***** **** it up for everybody."

I guess you're going to tell Chris Rock he is talking nonsense as well.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman

Oh yea, and this part was good

I have to admit that didnt sound good, but the rest of what hes saying is true. Im black for **** sake.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Fried. It's in the original post.

So what? Do most black people listen to, and follow the teachings of, hip-hop? Bear in mind the scope of hip-hop.

Not sure of the relevance of all that.

Hip-hop music or the culture it reproduces?

Mainstream hip-hop culture produces a certain image, which I already mentioned.
Glamourisation of guns, poverty and bling-bling.

I can't know the majority of black people in the world, as research of that scale is not done.
What I can claim is that majority of black males between ages of 16-25 in England and Wales have a culture which mirrors the hip-hop culture of America.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I mean even in Sierra Leone when they started kiling each other one group of soldiers called themselves The West Side Boys...wonder where they got their inspiration....

Nobody is denying that it influences idiots, I believe the question is; Where are you (and others, no names, no names) coming up with this bs that "most" do anything?

-AC

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Hip-hop music or the culture it reproduces?

Mainstream hip-hop culture produces a certain image, which I already mentioned.
Glamourisation of guns, poverty and bling-bling.

This is widely known.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness

I can't know the majority of black people in the world, as research of that scale is not done.
What I can claim is that majority of black males between ages of 16-25 in England and Wales have a culture which mirrors the hip-hop culture of America.

Whole other point.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Nobody is denying that it influences idiots, I believe the question is; Where are you (and others, no names, no names) coming up with this bs that "most" do anything?

-AC

Duhh I dunno im just making it up. What sort of a dumb question is that? Personal experience... 🙄

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Hip-hop music or the culture it reproduces?

Mainstream hip-hop culture produces a certain image, which I already mentioned.
Glamourisation of guns, poverty and bling-bling.

I can't know the majority of black people in the world, as research of that scale is not done.
What I can claim is that majority of black males between ages of 16-25 in England and Wales have a culture which mirrors the hip-hop culture of America.

This is not however, to say that they are all gun mongering criminals! A greatest number are not.

Why I know a live example of a black male, half Jamaican half African who despises the idea of ''baggy pants 50 cent look'' and does everything in his power to not be seen like that. Ever. He says promoting young black males as educated and smart is far more important than looking like a 50 cent clone. He also believes that such is not ''black'' culture at all, but blues, jazz and soul are.

He has been accused of acting ''white'' numerous times.

And this is what we mean by ''Americanisation of England''.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I see if hes going to talk about black people is he going to talk about black people in Manchester or black people in Ghana?

Yes, we call this generalising. Please let the penny drop. My brain aches.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Im aware that not all black people are like that but there are a significant amount of black people who are.

This is what I'm saying. Hence why if I left the thread now, you would continue uppercutting yourself.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Listen im going to leave you with some thing Chris Rock said. You know Chris Rock the black comdeian who I think grew up in Harlem or Brooklyn this is what he said.

"There are black people and there are n***** and the n***** **** it up for everybody."

I guess you're going to tell Chris Rock he is talking nonsense as well.

Why is that in any way aiding your argument? Do you even have one?