Ways to kill Wolverine

Originally posted by Galan007
Ok, when they give Wolverine the ability to [b]CHOOSE whether or not he lives again or stays dead, thats absolutley rediculous. [/B]

Co-signed. Where exactly did this immortality occur? I'm aware of the completely BS "healing back from a skeleton" episode, but no "come into the light" nonsense. can someone post an issue or something?

also: I remember thanos turned wolverine's bones to rubber once. how about thanos turns wolverine's body to petroleum, then uses it to fuel the space humvee for a mile or two

I hope you're not expecting comics to make scientific sense wink

Scientific sense? no. Some kind of sense? Yes. Suspension of disbelief has limits. I can accept mutants with healing factors surviving bullet wounds, massive trauma, etc- but I can't buy a "healing factor" allowing wolverine to survive a trip to a black hole or a waltz on the sun.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Co-signed. Where exactly did this immortality occur? I'm aware of the completely BS "healing back from a skeleton" episode, but no "come into the light" nonsense. can someone post an issue or something?

also: I remember thanos turned wolverine's bones to rubber once. how about thanos turns wolverine's body to petroleum, then uses it to fuel the space humvee for a mile or two

take him apart molecule by molecule...

Originally posted by Soljer
Which will kill him. Great.

Doesn't mean he'll stay dead.

Neither will complete cellular destruction, Sam.

You see, Wolverine isn't immortal like an elder of the universe immortal. He can be killed as easily as he ever could. The only difference is that he can COME BACK from the dead as often as he pleases. Something about his destiny, or past, or mutation gives him the ability to CHOOSE to either go 'into the light' or return to the world of the living.

As long as he chooses the latter (and beats a little ghost from his past, Lazaer) he'll come back. Again and again.

That book only proves that Wolverine can return after being dead, but it doesn't prove that he can regenerate if there is nothing to regenerate from. Imagine he doesn't have adamantium bones. And his body is turned into NOTHING by some powerfull magician or other powerfull being so there is not a single cell left. How will he come back even if he chooses, appear from nowhere?

Originally posted by Sam Z
That book only proves that Wolverine can return after being dead, but it doesn't prove that he can regenerate if there is nothing to regenerate from. Imagine he doesn't have adamantium bones. And his body is turned into NOTHING by some powerfull magician or other powerfull being so there is not a single cell left. How will he come back even if he chooses, appear from nowhere?

I'm envisioning a giant cartoon hand with a pen descending from the heavens and redrawing him on the spot.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
also: I remember thanos turned wolverine's bones to rubber once. how about thanos turns wolverine's body to petroleum, then uses it to fuel the space humvee for a mile or two

Originally posted by Space M ummy
now we're just being silly. How can someone "come back" from complete cellular destruction? If wolverine is put into a particle accelerator and every atom is individually smashed into energy and used to power los angeles for a month, there's nothing to come back from.

Also: if he's dead, he's dead. Wolverine can't "come back" from anything if he's a rotting corpse at the bottom of the ocean. dead bodies don't have healing factors.

You misunderstand. His immortality has NOTHING to do with his healing factor. It is an immortality of spirit.

Theoretically, even assuming every molecule of his adamantium was obliterated, he would 'appear' somewhere on the planet, and grow bones. Then a nervous system, then circulatory, then muscles, tissues, etc.

His new immortality has nothing to do with his healing factor. It has to do with his spirit.

Also, this was elaborated upon in the latest Wolverine title. It's the one immediately following the 'sentry' fight. I think it's like 43 or something, but I could be mistaken.

Alfheim - Wolverine can still be used as a combatant on these boards, just not in 'to the (permanent) death' fights. Wolverine can still be killed, and he can still be knocked out. Just like always.

And besides, this isn't as incredibly extreme as everyone's making it. Deadpool's immortal, and we can still use him all over the place on the forum. Why? Cause he can still be knocked out, even if he can't be killed.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
I'm envisioning a giant cartoon hand with a pen descending from the heavens and redrawing him on the spot.

More or less. 😬.

Originally posted by grey fox
What about the S-T-F-F-Y-B-V ?

Is no one going to ask what that means?

😐

Originally posted by Soljer
You misunderstand. His immortality has NOTHING to do with his healing factor. It is an immortality of spirit.

Theoretically, even assuming every molecule of his adamantium was obliterated, he would 'appear' somewhere on the planet, and grow bones. Then a nervous system, then circulatory, then muscles, tissues, etc.

His new immortality has nothing to do with his healing factor. It has to do with his spirit.

Originally posted by Galan007
This coming from the guy who was poorly trying to explain astronomy in an Onslaught thread? 🙄

LoL. Quote?

Originally posted by Jyppe
LoL. Quote?

Originally posted by Soljer

And besides, this isn't as incredibly extreme as everyone's making it. Deadpool's immortal, and we can still use him all over the place on the forum. Why? Cause he can still be knocked out, even if he can't be killed.

Slight difference , Deadpool is a 'Funny' character. Thus his shit is EXPECTED to be over-the-top and 'not-serious' and whats more serious then turning back to normal after being reduced to goop ?

Ok how about this....

Have someone who can astrial project team up with the guy that Wolverine has to fight when he dies. Then when the two of them kill Wolverine again, he stays dead.

Originally posted by grey fox
Slight difference , Deadpool is a 'Funny' character. Thus his shit is EXPECTED to be over-the-top and 'not-serious' and whats more serious then turning back to normal after being reduced to goop ?

I agree. I don't particularly LIKE the fact that Wolverine is not immortal, but I have to accept it, 😬.

It's ridiculous as all hell, I agree. But at least he finally has an excuse for surviving the 'Nitro' incident.

Before it was explained as such, I'd argued against Wolverine being able to heal from a skeleton.

But now? Even if Wolverine's entire anatomy were destroyed?

Well, it seems as if his soul would return to the land of the living, and perhaps take nutrients from the air and the ground in order to begin building the constituent particles needed for his bones, after which his healing factor could take over.

😬. That's all assumption, though. I'm not sure exactly how Wolverine would revive if his body were molecularly obliterated - but, according to the comic, he would. Somehow. :vomit:

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok how about this....

Have someone who can astrial project team up with the guy that Wolverine has to fight when he dies. Then when the two of them kill Wolverine again, he stays dead.

*nods*

Entirely plausible.

Anyone who could effect Wolverine on a spiritual level could keep him dead.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Read page 3 and 4
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=431450&perpage=20&pagenumber=3

I remember that. Comedy GOLD. someone needs to make a masterbruce quote thread archive somewhere.

Learn Akido, Jujitsu, Caipera, greco wrestling, taekwando, street defense, and any other method you have time for.

Btw, it's Aikido, Capoeira & Taekwondo

And you also might have meant Jujutsu, as it's the more known of the 2 (Jujutsu, Jujitsu)
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Who's the lowest character who could kill Wolverine permanently?

Originally posted by Jyppe
Btw, it's [b] Aikido, Capoeira & Taekwondo

And you also might have meant Jujutsu, as it's the more known of the 2 (Jujutsu, Jujitsu)
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Who's the lowest character who could kill Wolverine permanently? [/B]

And Jiu Jitsu is a great style when you are fighting one on one, but if you have multiple attackers (which would often be the case in a street scenario), the LAST place you want to be is on the ground. You wrestle with someone on the ground, get an armbar, and all the while someone else comes over and kicks your skull in with steel toed boots.

Krav Maga, Muay Thai, Judo, and Jiu Jitsu would be a more effective combination. Jiu Jitsu only so you learn how NOT to be taken down, rather than learning how to win a fight on the ground. 😉.

ON TOPIC:
Anyone that can kill him "non-permanently" assuming that Wolverine makes the choice to die, or Lazaer actually succeeds in killing him in the after life.

The lowest level character that could kill Wolverine permanently WITHOUT relying on Wolverine's choice or Lazaer?

Not sure. Anyone that could affect that spirit, or astral plane has a good chance, though.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Wolverine still needs to breathe...his healing factor's never rendered him immune from drowning, IMHO.

Thor/BRB/Hulk/Someone strong drowns him, then fills his lungs with concrete just to be sure.

Actually, I think this is the best idea.

My explanation: When Wolverine's soul comes back to his body, it's lungs are STILL filled with cement. So, he dies again instantly. He comes back, dies again. Comes back, dies again.

A never-ending, vicious cyle of death. This method would work beautifully.