Ways to kill Wolverine

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually, I think this is the best idea.

My explanation: When Wolverine's soul comes back to his body, it's lungs are STILL filled with cement. So, he dies again instantly. He comes back, dies again. Comes back, dies again.

A never-ending, vicious cyle of death. This method would work beautifully.

Assuming it would work, it still wouldn't kill Wolverine permanently.

He would return to life, asphyxiate, die, return to life, asphyxiate, die, return to life....

He wouldn't be kept permanently dead.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually, I think this is the best idea.

My explanation: When Wolverine's soul comes back to his body, it's lungs are STILL filled with cement. So, he dies again instantly. He comes back, dies again. Comes back, dies again.

A never-ending, vicious cyle of death. This method would work beautifully.

you sound like you don't care for wolverine much?

Originally posted by Soljer
OFF TOPIC EDIT: Also, Capoeira, Taekwondo, and Aikido are notoriously ineffective in an actual confrontation.

And Jiu Jitsu is a great style when you are fighting one on one, but if you have multiple attackers (which would often be the case in a street scenario), the LAST place you want to be is on the ground. You wrestle with someone on the ground, get an armbar, and all the while someone else comes over and kicks your skull in with steel toed boots.

Krav Maga, Muay Thai, Judo, and Jiu Jitsu would be a more effective combination. Jiu Jitsu only so you learn how NOT to be taken down, rather than learning how to win a fight on the ground. 😉.

I've had some great experience with ITF taekwondo myself(Not that I've walked around wearing a hockeymask beating people up), but now days I do KickBoxing & Taido (Not for self defence, but I wanted to learn some flips and such)

WTF (World federationship of Taekwondo) is rather useless in a real situation, as it mainly focuses on flashy kicks and doesn't do anything with punches or arms in general. Taekwondo, would be a good choice if you had lot of room to maneuver and didn't had that many opponents.

If you're looking for a self defence art, I'd suggest something simple. Krav Maga or Kickboxing is rather good for a beginner.

Can't really say much about Aikido though. It relies quite a lot on weapons and different locks.

Capoeira is really hard to use in an actual situation as it also relies on very flashy moves and has it's limitations.

IMO nearly all martial arts are good, but some focus on some things better than others.

drowing, putting him in the sun, turning him to stone and shattering him, teleporting his head off, knocking him into space, or simply taking away his powers with leech and killing him.

Originally posted by Soljer
Assuming it would work, it still wouldn't kill Wolverine permanently.

He would return to life, asphyxiate, die, return to life, asphyxiate, die, return to life....

He wouldn't be kept permanently dead.

I never said it would work "permanently". But he would be stuck on a never-ending death-loop.

Originally posted by masterbruce
you sound like you don't care for wolverine much?

Untrue. It tends to be his writers I don't care for at all.

Wolverine? I've always liked him. He's a badass with claws and a healing factor. He gets the job done. What I don't care for are some of the scenarios they (his writers) have him surviving. A lot of them don't make sense, even for Wolverine.

That's my only beef.

A way to kill Wolverine?

Get a good writer.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I never said it would work "permanently". But he would be stuck on a never-ending death-loop.

not neverending. he'd be kept in the loop until the next writer gets around to retconning his immortality away, then it's sweet oblivion for mr. logan.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
drowing, putting him in the sun, turning him to stone and shattering him, teleporting his head off, knocking him into space, or simply taking away his powers with leech and killing him.

None of those would work, as far as we know.

Originally posted by Jyppe
I've had some great experience with ITF taekwondo myself(Not that I've walked around wearing a hockeymask beating people up), but now days I do KickBoxing & Taido (Not for self defence, but I wanted to learn some flips and such)

WTF (World federationship of Taekwondo) is rather useless in a real situation, as it mainly focuses on flashy kicks and doesn't do anything with punches or arms in general. Taekwondo, would be a good choice if you had lot of room to maneuver and didn't had that many opponents.

If you're looking for a self defence art, I'd suggest something simple. Krav Maga or Kickboxing is rather good for a beginner.

Can't really say much about Aikido though. It relies quite a lot on weapons and different locks.

Capoeira is really hard to use in an actual situation as it also relies on very flashy moves and has it's limitations.

IMO nearly all martial arts are good, but some focus on some things better than others.

Capoeira has it's limitations? It's hardly a fighting style!

😆

Sorry, I don't mean to insult or anything, I've just had people, face to face, tell me that it was some kind of AMAZING style that could take anyone. It's pathetic, and it's ANYTHING but effective.

I agree that it's usually not the art, but the practitioner that matters, but (in general), Taekwondo and aikido are pretty useless in street confrontations.

Muay Thai is a vicious striking art, that is ideal for taking on a single or multiple opponents. Krav Maga is similar, but it incorporates 'dirty fighting,' and a ton of other techniques that aren't really 'ring legal.'

Judo is nice, if you need to put someone on their ass, so you can deal with someone else first. And Jiu Jitsu is useful for getting out of holds or takedowns.

That's, mostly, why I believe that a combination looking something like that would be ideal for street confrontations.

For in the ring, though? Enough striking skill to last till the takedown, and then a heavy emphasis on ground work will get you pretty far.

I, myself, train in american boxing and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Couldn't be happier with it, as a hobby.

I'm pretty confident that I'd want to NOT use shoot fighting on the street though.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
A way to kill Wolverine?

Get a good writer.

Originally posted by Galan007
Nah, that will [b]NEVER happen.. [/B]

so, just because wolverine is portrayed differently than you would like, the writers are bad?

Originally posted by Soljer
Capoeira has it's limitations? It's hardly a fighting style!

😆

Sorry, I don't mean to insult or anything, I've just had people, face to face, tell me that it was some kind of AMAZING style that could take anyone. It's pathetic, and it's ANYTHING but effective.

Actually I pretty much agree with you. I never intended anything else. I just didn't want to insult the art THAT much.

As an art, Capoeira resembles more like dancing. The "fights" they have in capoeira are pretty much dance show offs. It's damn good for your body though (a Friend of mine does it)

I agree that it's usually not the art, but the practitioner that matters, but (in general), Taekwondo and aikido are pretty useless in street confrontations.

Pretty much agreed.

Muay Thai is a vicious striking art, that is ideal for taking on a single or multiple opponents. Krav Maga is similar, but it incorporates 'dirty fighting,' and a ton of other techniques that aren't really 'ring legal.'

Muay Thai is exactly same as Thai boxing I've done in here. I'm not sure where you're from, but AFAIK it's usually called Thai Boxing. What I've seen it only diffeers from Kickboxing, because it uses elbows, knees, you can grab your opponent's leg, and there's Thai wrestling involved.

Yeah, Krav maga isn't a competition art. It's a self defence art. Nothing more.

Judo is nice, if you need to put someone on their ass, so you can deal with someone else first. And Jiu Jitsu is useful for getting out of holds or takedowns.

Couldn't care less about Judo. It's hilarious when some Judokas try to grab and throw a guy and then they get a knee to the face. If a guy has a knife, you don't really want to grab him. There was a video on the internet where (Simulated) a guy attacks 'nother one with a knife in an elevator. First the guy tries to grab the knife guy. He gets hit like 40 times. Then what would happen if he was kicking the guy who attacks with the knife. He doesn't get hit nearly at all. So It's smart to keep your distance against knife wielders.

I, myself, train in american boxing and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Couldn't be happier with it, as a hobby.

I'm pretty confident that I'd want to NOT use shoot fighting on the street though.

Lacks kicks though :/
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Now let's get back to the topic.

Originally posted by masterbruce
so, just because wolverine is portrayed differently than you would like, the writers are bad?

Meh, even though I'm defending Wolverine's immortality, I'll be the first to admit it isn't the best writing.

"Wolverine is immortal, now."

"Why?"

"Uhhmm...he chooses to be!"

What?! 🤨

A secondary mutation or some such would have made more sense. 😬.

Originally posted by masterbruce
so, just because wolverine is portrayed differently than you would like, the writers are bad?

He started out with a kick ass healing factor and a bad attitude which was cool.

But now he has crossed the thin line of comic book rediculousness, in that, he dies if he wants to die, and lives if he wants to live....

Thats just bad judgement on the writers part, and I doubt I am the only person who feels this way.

Originally posted by Jyppe

Muay Thai is exactly same as Thai boxing I've done in here. I'm not sure where you're from, but AFAIK it's usually called Thai Boxing. What I've seen it only diffeers from Kickboxing, because it uses elbows, knees, you can grab your opponent's leg, and there's Thai wrestling involved.

Couldn't care less about Judo. It's hilarious when some Judokas try to grab and throw a guy and then they get a knee to the face. If a guy has a knife, you don't really want to grab him. There was a video on the internet where (Simulated) a guy attacks 'nother one with a knife in an elevator. First the guy tries to grab the knife guy. He gets hit like 40 times. Then what would happen if he was kicking the guy who attacks with the knife. He doesn't get hit nearly at all. So It's smart to keep your distance against knife wielders.

Lacks kicks though :/

Yeah, Muay Thai IS synonymous with Thai boxing, as far as I know.

Also, I didn't mean to use Judo in a knife-defense situation. Nor did I mean to imply that Judo alone was a good self defense art. But you combine Judo with a little bit of boxing, you can take a nice parry into a hip throw or ankle sweep, and put someone on their ass. Stomp their face one time, and move on.

I wouldn't really want to fight someone with a knife period. How do you out box someone that's wielding a blade? And you SURE AS **** don't want to go to the ground with them, then they are just that much closer...

And, Im aware that I lack kicks. I try to cross train with some friends, I have one friend that did some Jeet Kune Do for years, Muay Thai for a couple years, and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for about a single year. He's pretty good about helping me train my kicks. Another that's done Muay Thai for sixteen years and Jiu Jitsu for about four. He's a beast. He whips the rest of us stand up or on the ground. It's hilarious.

When we train, he offers to play 'dummy' for us on the ground, so that we just work positions and the like? He doesn't even try to go with intensity or submit us or anything. No one's caught him in a submission yet....😛.

Awww, why get back on topic? This one's so much more fun!

We could always swap back to the topic of MasterBruce's dumbshit quotes. 😈

Soljer, why do you always have to diss me?

I actually like this whole new coming back from the dead thing. It makes a lot more sense having him die and come back than to have him survive what he's been surviving lately. Now Wolverine can go back to doing what he does best 😛 Getting into fights, kicking ass and getting his ass kicked, and then come back for more.

I like it. This means Wolverine have just officially become the Marvel punching back, because now anybody can kill him any time they feel like it, and they don't have to worry about feeling bad, because to him it's all in a day's work. 😈

Nice. Do I sound like I hate Wolverine? I don't. I just think lately he's become so overrated that he wasn't interesting anymore. For the same reason I stopped reading Superman - if you can shrug off a nuclear explosion and walk away from it like nothing happened - well then where's the excitement, the drama, the nail-biting suspense?

But this seems to me a more acceptable explanation. It also means he can be used in cool ways now. Remember that scene in Highlander II where Sean Connery and Christopher Lambert got riddled with bullets? And then they woke up in the morgue and it was like the whole Trojan Horse thing?

See, Wolverine is perfect for those kind of scenarios.

Cap proved that it's not very difficult to deal with Wolverine. In fact, it's easier with him than with superheroes you have to worry about killing! Just toss a grenade in his direction, wait for the explosion, then walk up and put Logan's body in cuffs and ta-da! One captured mutant bad boy.

So I'm with the most rabid of Wolverine fanboys here: Bring on the immortality! I fact, I feel a little sorry for him, because every writer is gonna wanna see in how many new and interesting ways poor old Logan can be killed... 😉

If I were against someone with a knife, I'd try to keep a leg between him and me. It would be rather difficult for him to attack me directly if he had a boot in his nose everytime he tried something.

I've had some pretty fun with Taido. It's not very practical, but I do Kickboxing for that depoartement. I startted it in order to learn some acrobatics and the flashy kicks. TK-D was little boring for me. I did get a red belt, but then I stopped it.

Have you learned any tricks or something?

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guys, let me settle this once and for all

Hulk >>>>> Onslaught >>>>>>> Juggernaut
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Originally posted by masterbruce
Soljer, why do you always have to diss me?

Diss you? I'm not dissing you. I'm just saying that your moronic and ridiculous quotes are quite entertaining.