For everyone who calls themself a Christian...

Started by Nellinator21 pages

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
1) You are making it your business when you pass judgement. You just stated what heterosexual couples should do.....you have no right to declare what they should or shouldn't do in thier own bedrooms...and secondly, there is no such thing as "normal"...that is simply a social construct, that no one truly falls under.

2) Make me a list of the problems that Homosexuals face that Heterosexuals do not face.....please.....and give me percentage statistics from credible non-biased sources (And no Christian websites do not count)


1) Not really. I'm not stopping them from doing anything. Advice is not evil. Making a recommendation does not equate to being a busybody.
2) I don't think I have ever linked a Christian site here...
Anyway, I will find you a scientific journal on these things.

Umm...to make the argument easier(to comprehend) I'm going to simplify things. I believe I read this argument somewhere else - and I don't remember who wrote it(or what was posted exactly) - so I'm just going to paraphrase..here goes..

"ANAL SEX IS WRONG CAUSE TEH ANUS IS NOT MENT FOR PROCRETION. TEH ANUS IS MENT TO GO POOPY. GOD CREATE TEH REGULAR SEX 4 MEN AND WOMEN - WEN THEY IN LOVE AND MARRIED. GOD WANT THEM TO HALF TEH REGULAR SEX WHEN THEY MARRIED - CAUSE IT HE NTENDED IT 2 BE A EXPRESSION OF LOVE AND COMMITMENT DURING MARRIAGE. WHEN PEEPLE HALF TEH SEX WHEN THEY NOT MARRIED - AND BETWEEN TEH SAME SIXES - AND TEH ANAL SEX - IT NOT LOVING BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST WHAT GODS LOVING INTENTION IS FOR TEH SEX"

Originally posted by Nellinator
1) Not really. I'm not stopping them from doing anything. Advice is not evil. Making a recommendation does not equate to being a busybody.
2) I don't think I have ever linked a Christian site here...
Anyway, I will find you a scientific journal on these things.

You are right, advice is not evil. A little advice for you; lean as much as you can about every religion you are exposed to. How was that? 😄

PVS:
Please read earlier, I already stated that heterosexuality can lead to AIDS and that it was unfair to limit AIDS to homosexuality.
Also, those are curable infections, whereas what I referred to is a recurring infection as sewage continually leaks in.

Urizen:
Heterosexual males do not receive anal sex though. You see the difference? Of course heterosexuality can be equally as unhealthy, but that is not what we are arguing.

Here are some journals. The links won't work for you because you don't have the password, so I'll just give you names and you should try and find them at a library or something. You might be able to find some of them elsewhere on the internet.

Anal sex:
Age-related prevalence of anal cancer precursors in homosexual men: The EXPLORE study
Journal of the National Cancer Institute [0027-8874] yr:2005 vol:97 iss:12 pg:896-905

Oral sex:
Age, sexual behavior and human papillomavirus infection in oral cavity and oropharyngeal cancers
International Journal of Cancer 108 (5) : 766-772 20 February, 2004

Promiscuity:
Natural history of cervicovaginal papillomavirus infection in young women
New England Journal of Medicine 338 (7) : 423-428 Feb. 12, 1998

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are right, advice is not evil. A little advice for you; lean as much as you can about every religion you are exposed to. How was that? 😄

Of course, you will allow me the freedom to make my own choice. I am well versed in many religions I can assure you. I believe that I once told you about my experiences with religions outside of Christianity. I've been there and done that. None of it was good.

Originally posted by Nellinator
PVS:
Please read earlier, I already stated that heterosexuality can lead to AIDS and that it was unfair to limit AIDS to homosexuality.
Also, those are curable infections, whereas what I referred to is a recurring infection as sewage continually leaks in.

then why bring up aids? do you think you can come up with a disclaimer that you dont believe a lie and then go on repeating that lie? i dont get it. why did you mention aids? answer that. why?

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo

"ANAL SEX IS WRONG CAUSE TEH ANUS IS NOT MENT FOR PROCRETION. TEH ANUS IS MENT TO GO POOPY. GOD CREATE TEH REGULAR SEX 4 MEN AND WOMEN - WEN THEY IN LOVE AND MARRIED. GOD WANT THEM TO HALF TEH REGULAR SEX WHEN THEY MARRIED - CAUSE IT HE NTENDED IT 2 BE A EXPRESSION OF LOVE AND COMMITMENT DURING MARRIAGE. WHEN PEEPLE HALF TEH SEX WHEN THEY NOT MARRIED - AND BETWEEN TEH SAME SIXES - AND TEH ANAL SEX - IT NOT LOVING BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST WHAT GODS LOVING INTENTION IS FOR TEH SEX"

have you ever gotten a blowjob?

*edit* crappy server

Originally posted by Nellinator
[BUrizen:
Heterosexual males do not receive anal sex though. You see the difference? Of course heterosexuality can be equally as unhealthy, but that is not what we are arguing. [/B]

Yes, that WAS what we were arguing...or atleast I was....you already answered my question, and I like the answer. Thanks 👆

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
"ANAL SEX IS WRONG CAUSE TEH ANUS IS NOT MENT FOR PROCRETION. TEH ANUS IS MENT TO GO POOPY. GOD CREATE TEH REGULAR SEX 4 MEN AND WOMEN - WEN THEY IN LOVE AND MARRIED. GOD WANT THEM TO HALF TEH REGULAR SEX WHEN THEY MARRIED - CAUSE IT HE NTENDED IT 2 BE A EXPRESSION OF LOVE AND COMMITMENT DURING MARRIAGE. WHEN PEEPLE HALF TEH SEX WHEN THEY NOT MARRIED - AND BETWEEN TEH SAME SIXES - AND TEH ANAL SEX - IT NOT LOVING BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST WHAT GODS LOVING INTENTION IS FOR TEH SEX"

No need to dumb this quote down with all the incorrect spellings Usagi....this quote is stupid ALREADY.....

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Umm...to make the argument easier(to comprehend) I'm going to simplify things. I believe I read this argument somewhere else - and I don't remember who wrote it(or what was posted exactly) - so I'm just going to paraphrase..here goes..

"ANAL SEX IS WRONG CAUSE TEH ANUS IS NOT MENT FOR PROCRETION. TEH ANUS IS MENT TO GO POOPY. GOD CREATE TEH REGULAR SEX 4 MEN AND WOMEN - WEN THEY IN LOVE AND MARRIED. GOD WANT THEM TO HALF TEH REGULAR SEX WHEN THEY MARRIED - CAUSE IT HE NTENDED IT 2 BE A EXPRESSION OF LOVE AND COMMITMENT DURING MARRIAGE. WHEN PEEPLE HALF TEH SEX WHEN THEY NOT MARRIED - AND BETWEEN TEH SAME SIXES - AND TEH ANAL SEX - IT NOT LOVING BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST WHAT GODS LOVING INTENTION IS FOR TEH SEX"

Sounds JM. And stupid. Yes, stupid, too.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Sounds JM. And stupid. Yes, stupid, too.

With or without JM, the quote is stupid. Add JM to the mix, and you got yourself the dumbest shit in the world.....

Originally posted by PVS
have you ever gotten a blowjob?

Umm..Based on the fact you posted that question twice - I'm not sure if it is a request or a question. If it is a request then the answer is unreservedly *No* If It is just an honest question then the answer is *Yes* There was a point in my life when I did engage in immoral sexual behaviour. I no longer engage in the acts anymore, but I still have much problems with thoughts about these acts(lust). I'm working on God on these problems though.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Umm..Based on the fact you posted that question twice - I'm not sure if it is a request or a question. If it is a request then the answer is unreservedly *No*. If It is just an honest question then the answer is *Yes* There was a point in my life when I did engage in immoral sexual behaviour. I no longer engage in the acts anymore, but I still have much problem with thoughts about these acts(lust). I'm working on God with that one though.

A Blowjob is a one-way ticket to Hell

🙄

Your religion is stupid.....

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Umm..I'm not sure if this is a request or a question. If it is a request then the answer is unreservedly *No*. If It is just an honest question then the answer is *yes* There was a point in my life when I did engage in immoral sexual behaviour. I no longer engage in the acts anymore, but I still have much problem with lust. I'm working on God with that one though.

so, if your wife gave you a blowjob that would be immoral? hypothetically, under the wild assumption that any woman would actually volunteer to put up with you till one of you dies. 😉

Originally posted by PVS
so, if your wife gave you a blowjob that would be immoral?

Yes of course.

Originally posted by PVS
hypothetically, under the wild assumption that any woman would actually volunteer to put up with you till one of you dies. 😉

*Sigh*

The truth is often spoken in jest..He..he..(except for the fact that I'm not married - yet, hopefully I will be someday though).

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
The truth is often spoken in jest..He..he..(except for the fact that I'm not married - yet, hopefully I will be someday though).

So what happens if you never get married ? you will never have sex ?

🙁

I feel so bad for you. You are putting restrictions on YOURSELF, and any suffering that results from this will be your own fault.

I have a friend who is called Christian. He calls himself Christiand, and other people do too....I'll ask him to visit this thread..

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
No need to dumb this quote down with all the incorrect spellings Usagi....this quote is stupid ALREADY.....

Ummm..Considering that most in here(including yourself) don't believe that anal sex is harmful - I thought it was a bit overcomplicated..He..He..

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yes, that WAS what we were arguing...or atleast I was....you already answered my question, and I like the answer. Thanks 👆

I hope you at least looked for the journals... If you do not find them, you probably won't ever be able to understand my position and the validity of my argument.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I have a friend who is called Christian. He calls himself Christiand, and other people do too....I'll ask him to visit this thread..

HE is a Christian, simply because he identifies as one...tell him not to waste his time.

Originally posted by Usagi dumbass
Ummm..Considering that most in here(including yourself) don't believe that anal sex is harmful - I thought it was a bit overcomplicated..He..He..

Your claim that Homosexuality is harmful because it is not part of God's plan, is NON-FACTUAL, therefore invalid.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I hope you at least looked for the journals... If you do not find them, you probably won't ever be able to understand my position and the validity of my argument.

If you're argument is that ANAL SEX can be harmful, then yes, I agree. But so can Vaginal Sex, and so can Oral Sex. NOT HAVING SEX can be very harmful as well....for your physical AND mental state of being.

But if you're argument still entails that Homosexuality itself is harmful, then I again see this as invalid.

Since you already stated that Heterosexuality can be EQUALLY harmful, then the only conclusion you can make is that SEX itself can be dangerous. Which is absolutely true, since EVERYTHING can be dangerous.