Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Set 3
Speedball is quickly becoming one of my favirote characters.
He's gone from being the annoying bouncy guy in the blue and orange costume with the bubbles to being a guy who has absolutely nothing going for him. Everyone hates him and no one is going to help him and yet he still stands up for what is right. Gotta respect that 😎
Originally posted by willRules
We don't know. there are lots of opinions as to what is going on but all we know is someone who has the same abilities of Thor and looks just like him, electrocuted Herc at the end of Civil war ish 3. Anything else is speculation at the moment. ✅
that's not entirely true. the second storyline running through fantastic four, a la thor's hammer, was somewhat resolved when a man carrying a case [engraved with the letters DB] simply walked up to the hammer, seemingly erupted in energy, and flew away in issue 538. we just don't know what connects that scene to the scene in civil war number 3.
Originally posted by Grimm22Correction, he's standing up for what he believes in. In this case, what is right is speculative at best. He's saying that no part of the Stamford disaster was his fault, I disagree.
Speedball is quickly becoming one of my favirote characters.He's gone from being the annoying bouncy guy in the blue and orange costume with the bubbles to being a guy who has absolutely nothing going for him. Everyone hates him and no one is going to help him and yet he still stands up for what is right. Gotta respect that 😎
Originally posted by DisappearBut Marvel has been throwing out some hints that the "DB" thing may've just been a red herring.
that's not entirely true. the second storyline running through fantastic four, a la thor's hammer, was somewhat resolved when a man carrying a case [engraved with the letters DB] simply walked up to the hammer, seemingly erupted in energy, and flew away in issue 538. we just don't know what connects that scene to the scene in civil war number 3.
Originally posted by BlaqChaosThere is no "right" side. The issue is government control vs "civil rights" which is actually vigilantism. Neither is right, but clearly government control is the not-so-subtle "villain" of this crossover narrative. Marvel would not put Captain America on the "wrong" side. He is their poster child.
Correction, he's standing up for what he believes in. In this case, what is right is speculative at best. He's saying that no part of the Stamford disaster was his fault, I disagree.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotTrue, but they wouldn't put Iron Man on the "wrong" side, just because he's obeying and enforcing the law. Imagine the message that would convey.
There is no "right" side. The issue is government control vs "civil rights" which is actually vigilantism. Neither is right, but clearly government control is the not-so-subtle "villain" of this crossover narrative. Marvel would not put Captain America on the "wrong" side. He is their poster child.
Spoiler:
* Marvel editor-in-chief Joe Quesada said there's a reason why the recently returned Thor chooses a side.* Fantastic Four writer J. Michael Strazynski said that because Ben Grimm can't conform to the registration and that he remains a patriot, he will be moving out of the country.
* Ms. Marvel writer Brian Reed said she will be another character who begins to see the other side of the debate.
* Current Wolverine writer Marc Guggenheim said that Wolverine's pursuit of Nitro won't be as straight-forward as it sounds, with a conspiracy behind the event in Stamford.
Massive crossovers will get a rest after Civil War, Quesada said. "What you will see is smaller events within family groups," he said.
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
Correction, he's standing up for what he believes in. In this case, what is right is speculative at best. He's saying that no part of the Stamford disaster was his fault, I disagree.
I think so far its been interesting whats happening to him because he lost his powers(temporariily as it seems) but Im sure he will become annoying again but like I said, so far his situation is been pretty interesting. I agree with BQ, he and the New Warriors are to blame, not 100% but their fault nonetheless.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotActually, that line I posted about their stance on Iron Man not being bad for obeying the law came from Marvel themselves (either their web-site, or a Wizard interview).
But they have. 😬It's not exactly subtle which side Marvel is portraying as "right". Iron Man and his machinations etc.
Originally posted by BlaqChaosI know what Marvel are saying as their official line... 😬 I'm saying that the portrayal by writers however speaks far louder.
Actually, that line I posted about their stance on Iron Man not being bad for obeying the law came from Marvel themselves (either their web-site, or a Wizard interview).
my point was that there was a starting point prior to civil war #3, one which actually built for a few months, rather than a random appearance of a costumed, empowered thor simply out of nowhere. whether DB is donald blake or not remains to be seen, and given the on-and-off nature of the "red herrings" being dropped in various interviews, we might as well just kick back and let it happen around us. i already lost the excitement of who daredevil deux was because of this crazy overspeculation.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotNo they have donea good job of showing that both sides are right to some degree.
I know what Marvel are saying as their official line... 😬 I'm saying that the portrayal by writers however speaks far louder.
The only problem is that the Anti-Reg has been shown as this doomed thing that doesn'y have nearly the firepower of the Pro side people normally side with the underdogs.
Originally posted by Disappear
that's not entirely true. the second storyline running through fantastic four, a la thor's hammer, was somewhat resolved when a man carrying a case [engraved with the letters DB] simply walked up to the hammer, seemingly erupted in energy, and flew away in issue 538. we just don't know what connects that scene to the scene in civil war number 3.
Good point. I'd forgotten about that ✅
Originally posted by BlaqChaosSpoiler:
* Fantastic Four writer J. Michael Strazynski said that because Ben Grimm can't conform to the registration and that he remains a patriot, he will be moving out of the country.
But in the latest issue of Amazing spider-man, before the fight with Peter and Cap, the Thing is there and there is an editor's not saying shame on the reader for thinking whatever they were told about the Thing. ✅
Originally posted by willRulesNo, they said "We know what you're thinking, and shame on you for even thinking it."
Good point. I'd forgotten about that ✅But in the latest issue of Amazing spider-man, before the fight with Peter and Cap, the Thing is there and there is an editor's not saying shame on the reader for thinking whatever they were told about the Thing. ✅
