Originally posted by Bentley
Ok, fine, how can Iceman deal with being speed blitzed by a scream that can destroy him to atomic level? Water is not water to that level, he wouldnt be able to survive just like that.
Speedblitzed with a scream?
😆
Is this before or after Iceman spreads his consciousness out to every molecule of water on earth? Including the very water that resides INSIDE Black Bolt?
Is this before or after Iceman FLASH FREEZES Black Bolt with a mere thought?
Before or after Iceman rips every droplet of moisture out of Black Bolt's body?
Before or after Iceman turns Black Bolt into water - which is, incidently, incapable of speech?
Originally posted by Soljer
Speedblitzed with a scream?😆
Is this before or after Iceman spreads his consciousness out to every molecule of water on earth? Including the very water that resides INSIDE Black Bolt?
Is this before or after Iceman FLASH FREEZES Black Bolt with a mere thought?
Before or after Iceman rips every droplet of moisture out of Black Bolt's body?
Before or after Iceman turns Black Bolt into water - which is, incidently, incapable of speech?
Is this before or after Bobby totally doesn't use his power to the full potenttial and jobs?
Now, i understand iceman is very powerful
on the other hand
Im not so sure if some of the ways iceman could possibly beat blackbolt would work
Keep in mind, blackbolt has control over his own molecules and very very very very high level matter manipulation
thats not to say iceman wouldent win (he has a huge advantage being able to plant his consciousness into water, which is pertty much everywhere)
So in essense if thats the case, it might be hard for bb to put iceman down.
As far as flash freeze goes, that could do it
but i lack the iceman knoweldge to make a fair judgement here.
I knew people would come and say Iceman could do thing he has never done, he has never inhabited in someone who can manipulate matter. I'm pretty sure that would kill Iceman badly.
That aside, I would like to see some scans about Iceman moving his essence through water around the world, how can he travels through the space in his "essence form"? Does he has to touch the mentioned material? See it?
All scans shown I tried to keep to his moisture inversion form, or manipulating water from someones body, being blown up in HUMAN form, or just an extreme ice feat (Legion/Stranger/Oblivion)
Gets blown up in ice form and the Sentinels cannot detect him, but he comes back to life during Juggernauts battle with them:
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforeverdrake2yu.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforeverdrake24dz.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforeverdrake32cy.jpg
Stealing someones water:
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman13gv.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman20rs.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman32ns.jpg
turns into water:
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=monk11gw.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=monk24ri.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=monk30kk.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=monk45nq.jpg
He can transmute his element:
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=transmutesicetowater2my.jpg
Why not water into gas (in the human body)?? 😈
his should prove how fast Iceman is, Prosh thought he could (if he used his powers properly) that he could get from his house (in Boston) to atlanta in less than the few minutes that Mystique killed her son (in Atlanta!!)
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever2p056lt.jpg
Prosh showing Iceman how to REALLY use his powers:
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever2p161gf.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever2p180hw.jpg
Becoming a part of everything at the same time as freezing a celestial ship:
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever5p192kj.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever5p208wl.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever5p217vf.jpg
and coming back to form says that he is "everywhere"
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever5p227kd.jpg
Freezes the stranger (put it in because...its cool 🙂 )
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever6p268ua.jpg
Famous Flash Freeze:
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenn41p143oa.jpg
Iceman escapes having the Celestial Ship compressed so tightly it creates a suction while it is "teleporting" (iceman was the "stars"😉
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever6p27wg4.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever6p28sj0.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever6p29ew7.jpg
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http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever6p31hc1.jpg
Emma Frost using Icemans body. Anything she can do he can do, and nowadays? Even better. Credit goes to ExodusCloak for the scans 😄
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2138/uncxmenv131307rougherkk7.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5808/uncxmenv131323roughergq2.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7814/uncannyxmen314large01nm1.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1886/uncannyxmen314large02ow3.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5894/uncannyxmen314large03ce6.jpg
I just realized how fast she travelled in his Ice-form...3 miles in 5 seconds...and that was via the river in liquid form...imagine his gas form shock
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8259/uncannyxmen314large04uh0.jpg
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Also being blown up in HUMAN form (which is the most impressive part), going into steam form, then reconstructing himself out of ice (some pictures are repeats just cut to emphasize where Iceman is) :
http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=steamtoice01zw6.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3575/ice1mq3.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=steamtoice02nq3.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1158/ice2cx0.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9092/ice3xu2.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=steamtoice03lw1.jpg
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6403/ice4td2.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=steamtoice04ss6.jpg
He has been blown up in human form before as well:
http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uncannyxmen430p19hb6.jpg
He also took down Oblivion (the abstract 😂 )
http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ice14dz5.jpg
In the previous issue of X-Men, Iceman faced off against someone who can draw energy from whats around him to fuel his fires. He "fed" on Iceman till there was nothing left apparently absorbing him.
In the issue that just recently came out, it appears that Iceman was inside the opponents body, laying dormant until the time was right. Iceman must have been in his body for probably up to an hour. Could have been more, but hard to tell the full length of time that passed. Anyways, heres the feat. Impresive as hell imo. I wonder how long he can stay inside someones body without them knowing it?
Note: It appears Iceman killed him.
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=icemandormantiq9.png