EVANGEL94's 2nd SLUGFEST SHOWDOWN Tournament: Confirmation and Discussion Thread

Started by King Kandy15 pages

Herald Choice

Erica:http://www.geocities.com/jhaeman/Comics/spellbo.html

Enhance Meta Choices

Legacy Genis-Vell:http://marvelite.prohosting.com/sur...genis-vell.html
Jack of Hearts:http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi...ackofhearts.htm

Meta Choices

Beast:http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotl...&fldAuto=57
Demogoblin:http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/demogoblin.html

Street Leveler

Daredevil:http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi...d/daredevil.htm
The Question: http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/q/question.htm

Genis-Vell is hearld level and your link doesn't work anyways.

edit: your Jack of Hearts link doesn't work either

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Genis-Vell is hearld level and your link doesn't work anyways.

He's specified early-Genis, from Nicieza's 90's series. He didn't get Herald-powerful until Peter David got a hold of him post-Avengers Forever.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
He's specified early-Genis, from Nicieza's 90's series. He didn't get Herald-powerful until Peter David got a hold of him post-Avengers Forever.

Gotcha.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
To the best of my ability to search, there is no "guidebook" style link for the Protege available. Once again, the link I provided is Jim Valentino, the writer & artist for the series who created the character providing issue by issue synopses and commentary. How is that not on par with all the some-guy-with-a-fortunecity/angelfire/geocities link? How are all the "classicmarvel" links with fan-submitted RPG stats for a game that's been out of print for 15 years ok, but my primary-source material not. I'll also point out that most of the answers.com or about.com links are in-fact just mirrors of wikipedia articles, yet they're not being challenged. How is any

I'm sorry if I'm coming on a little strong here, but I stated exactly what that link was almost a week ago. Why is it suddenly not good enough? Again, I'd think creator commentary would be preferable to fansite content.

If it matters, I ordered every issue in which he appears from Mile-High the day after the Herald draft, anticipating the need to make up for his obscurity with scans. Frankly, I wouldn't have spent the $15 or so if I thought there were serious objections.

1. I never asked you to change your character. I asked you to find a better link. How is anyone going to know anything about your character based on a forum summaries of comics where your character was mentioned in passing? Already we have people like loot questioning your character.

2. Any website that provides clear and concise details is okay because they are in "guidebook" format for everyone to clearly understand.

3. Wikipedia links are not okay for the simple reason that user created content can be changed. How would you like it if somebody edits the power and abilities of a character just to sneak in a hidden power and then reveal it later. Mirrors cannot be edited or changed.

4. Links aren't the end all. They are guides and they aren't always correct, but they do give people with unfamiliarity with the character a chance to understand the character better.

5. No offense, but nobody asked you to go out and spend $15 dollars on comics for this tournament. That's your own business. But If you really needed to order comics just to argue and establish your character then you shouldn't have picked a character that hasn't made a well-known appearance in the last 15 years.

EDIT: And that goes out to everyone else who is picking unfamiliar characters that have faded into obscurity. You might come to regret it in the tournament when you can't provide proven solid facts about your character.

To everybody, if you post a link like this:
{url}http://link.gov{/url}
it will get truncated if it's over a certain length and cease to work.
This way:
{url=http://long-a$$-link.org}link description{/url}
will work with long links just fine.

I used braces rather than brackets so you could se the tags inside, but you need to use bracketts in practice, of course.

Okay... I think I see the problem.

Herald Choice

Erica:http://www.geocities.com/jhaeman/Comics/spellbo.html

Enhance Meta Choices

Legacy Genis-Vell:http://www.leaderslair.com/legacy/legacy.html
Jack of Hearts:http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/j/jackofhearts.htm

Meta Choices

Beast:http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=57
Demogoblin:http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/demogoblin.html

Street Leveler

Daredevil:http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/daredevil.htm
The Question: http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/q/question.htm

Do they work now?

Yep your aces now

Yeah, no offense Laminator, but when you pick an obscure character that YOU think is badass, then who says everyone's gonna believe you based on what you're saying alone. I mean, I don't even know who Protoge is and your link is hard to follow. Also just a reminder that there are a few solid big names left. Loki and Superman to start.

there are characters better then superman and loki remaining.

and what about jack of hearts since his powers have increased exponentially trough time

Originally posted by Typhus
Yeah, no offense Laminator, but when you pick an obscure character that YOU think is badass, then who says everyone's gonna believe you based on what you're saying alone. I mean, I don't even know who Protoge is and your link is hard to follow. Also just a reminder that there are a few solid big names left. Loki and Superman to start.

Protege's stronger then that.

He ended up with LT's power, didn't he?

For those of you taking your jolly sweet time in picking your character, I'm ending the time to change your character at 1:00 PM US CENTRAL TIME.

No changes after that will be allowed. Those who miss this time and are still completely missing some characters will have to PM me with their choices before 6:00 PM US CENTRAL TIME today. Those who don't....I'll pick your characters for you.

Originally posted by Evangel94
For those of you taking your jolly sweet time in picking your character, I'm ending the time to change your character at 1:00 PM US CENTRAL TIME.

Don't get snippy ... I asked over an hour ago how long we had left.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Don't get snippy ... I asked over an hour ago how long we had left.

That post wasn't even directed at you. It was just motivation to get everyone to finish their picks.

And ...

Snippy?

.... 😆

So is my latest list approved?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Protege's stronger then that.

He ended up with LT's power, didn't he?

Potentially stronger. When he tried to copy the LT, one of the Celestials put him down.

Let me lay it out clearly here. He can fully copy any power or ability he sees used. This is potentially without limit. I specified him coming in at base-level, where he cant do much besides float around.

Since there'll be no powers above Herald-level available for him to mimic, he's effectively capped at that level-too. Does anybody have a problem with this?

I wasn't trying to pull a fast one via an obscure character. If I were, I'd neve have raised the question about him, Taskmaster, and Echo; and asked for a ruling that was against my benefit.

If it's a problem, I'll pick somebody else.

The only problem is that ionce he learns the powers of a whole bunch of herald levels, he's above all of them.

His powers work on a culminative basis.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Let me lay it out clearly here. He can fully copy any power or ability he sees used. This is potentially without limit. I specified him coming in at base-level, where he cant do much besides float around.

Since there'll be no powers above Herald-level available for him to mimic, he's effectively capped at that level-too. Does anybody have a problem with this?

Yes .... he/she effectively becomes more powerful than the other team combined.

Plus, he can copy his own teams powers.

After copying everyone, he'd be as powerful as everyone on both teams combined.

Originally posted by King Kandy
The only problem is that ionce he learns the powers of a whole bunch of herald levels, he's above all of them.

His powers work on a culminative basis.

That's what I suggested should not be permitted.

I was never expecting him to retain powers from bout to bout.