King Kandy has a point. The power has way to much potential to be abused. Even if he doesn't retain his powers from the previous bout, all he has to do is copy the opponents herald character and they're on par, then copy another person's power and it puts him over the opponent, making him effectively unbeatable.
Originally posted by Scoobless
Yes .... he/she effectively becomes more powerful than the other team combined.
Maybe. He's still just one person. I'm depriving myself of the initiative by starting each match without a Herald-level offense/defense.
With the understanding that it's not cumulative (starting each match at base-level was my stated intent from the first draft) do you still have a problem? Most of these Power Cosmic guys can duplicate the effects of a bunch of lower-level picks at will anyway.
This is the problem I'm seeing with your character.
You have a certain amount of time in prep before the battle for protege to copy everyone's powers on his team.
I understand that Protege would not retain all of his copied powers from round to round all.
But all he would need to do is copy all his teammates powers and then copy all of the opposing teams powers to make him the most powerful guy on the map.
And without knowing how durable this guy is normally without any powers, what difference does it that he starts out with no Herald level powers?
EDIT: Are you saying the only way to take him out is to take him out at the beginning of the match before he has a chance to copy the Herald's power?
It's beginining to look like your going to have to change your Herald level choice.
Unless you can prove otherwise.
Those were certainly the tactics that I had in mind, I guess I just didn't see the lesser powers as being as significant. Any Herald of Galactus of Green Lantern-type can already duplicate most of the powers possesed by most of the E-Meta and Meta picks in the tourney.
I was seeing him as matching my opponent's Herald in power with perhaps a bit more versatility thrown in. Would a bunch of (mostly redundant) lower level powers make somebody like Morg or Silver-Surfer too powerful?
Originally posted by Scoobless
Current Cable would be ok ... TO Cable was as powerful as Nate Grey/"God Like" Cable
Oh damn. Well evangel said the power cap for e-meta telepaths was pre-phoenix Jean Grey. So I guess if he doesn't want to switch characters then maybe we can say his cap is the same as hers for TK and what not, for the sake of staying within the touny boundries.
It would be like picking JG only with advanced fighting abilities. Just a thought.
Originally posted by Typhus
Oh damn. Well evangel said the power cap for e-meta telepaths was pre-phoenix Jean Grey. So I guess if he doesn't want to switch characters then maybe we can say his cap is the same as hers for TK and what not, for the sake of staying within the touny boundries.It would be like picking JG only with advanced fighting abilities. Just a thought.
If we're doing that can I pick Galactus at Herald level and just level him off at the highest power level available?
And then I could take Odin for my Enhanced Meta draft.
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Changed one or two....
Herald:
Enhanced:
Meta:
Street Level:
Ultimate Hawkeye
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Originally posted by Laminator_X
Those were certainly the tactics that I had in mind, I guess I just didn't see the lesser powers as being as significant. Any Herald of Galactus of Green Lantern-type can already duplicate most of the powers possesed by most of the E-Meta and Meta picks in the tourney.I was seeing him as matching my opponent's Herald in power with perhaps a bit more versatility thrown in. Would a bunch of (mostly redundant) lower level powers make somebody like Morg or Silver-Surfer too powerful?
Depends if your going to argue on using the power cosmic to amp up those lower level powers to herald level.
Originally posted by Scoobless
Changed one or two....[b]Herald:
Enhanced:
Meta:
Street Level:
Ultimate Hawkeye
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i know its not the place to say this, but i like wolverine, i loved the origin comicbook, and i think its terrible what they are doing to the character, they are ruining wolverine, just for the fans can say he is immortal and can survive a nuke and can beat this and that, it really sucks
Originally posted by Evangel94
Depends if your going to argue on using the power cosmic to amp up those lower level powers to herald level.
He could take at the entire other team by himself, no matter how powerful they were.
He could be abstract level if he had enough time.
Just ban him already.
Originally posted by Evangel94
Depends if your going to argue on using the power cosmic to amp up those lower level powers to herald level.
That is something I hadn't even considered. Certainly not.
WRT being abstract level, it's not like there're going to be any abstracts around for him to copy are there?
Final Team
Silver Surfer – http://www.marveldatabase.com/Silve...8Norrin_Radd%29
Spawn – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spawn_%28comics%29; http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/spawn.htm
Invisible Woman – http://www.marveldatabase.com/Invis...san_Richards%29
Nightcrawler (aoa style with blades) – http://www.marveldatabase.com/Night...8Kurt_Wagner%29
Banshee - http://www.marveldatabase.com/Banshee_%28Sean_Cassidy%29
Taskmaster – http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/taskmaster.htm
Shang Shi - http://www.marveldatabase.com/Shang-Chi