EVANGEL94's 2nd SLUGFEST SHOWDOWN Tournament: Confirmation and Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Scoobless
No, you're missing the point, they don't have super powers, she does = she is not street level

so you want her banned because everyone does what she does, except she just has a super power to do it? that is unfair and ridiclous

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No, you missed the point, and you just shot yourself in the foot. You admitted her powers give her preternatural advantage. Thus a superpower. Street is defined as no or limited super powers.

Edit: Damn it scoob. You beat me to it. 😛

1) it's not an advamntage if everyone else can do it

2) they are limited super powers, hence by your reasoning, street level

Originally posted by stormfront13
so you want her banned because everyone does what she does, except she just has a super power to do it? that is unfair and ridiclous

I want her moved into the correct catagory.

You wanting super powered people in the non-super powered persons catagory is unfair and ridiculous.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I want her moved into the correct catagory.

You wanting super powered people in the non-super powered persons catagory is unfair and ridiculous.

1) She's in the correct Category

2) Street doesn't mean absolutley no powers

neway, i'm out for the night, but i'm going to leave saying this. there are powered people in the Street Tourney, and Roses's powers give her no advantage over people, so what's all the complaining about?

The "street tourney" was for people up to Venom ... which is Meta in this tourney.

In this tourney "street" = no powers

It's really not a difficult concept to grasp.

you have two choices storm. you can either drop her, or keep her in street minus her precognitive power. You're gonna have to fight everyone in this tournament, because we're not gonna let you cheat by trying to sneak a meta level character in as a street level character.

The complaining is about the advantages her power gives her, and if your mind is too limited to think of why her abilities are meta level, then that's your problem. The rest of us see it quite clearly.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Taskmaster has no powers, he's just very skilled and uses his perfect memory to work out what the opponent is most likely to do.

"it is nonetheless conceivable that Sentry's powers are limitless, and may even rival those of the Silver Surfer's and Phoenix's. In effect, the Sentry's powers are seemingly limitless"

"Conceivable" "may" "seemingly" ... it's all guesswork ... the guy is very possibly above Herald level

🙄

He hasn't been shown to be above a herald level so far... And who knows "maybe" Kitty Pride in 2007 will be explained to be the Beyonder's twin sister and that she also shares all of his vast power. Who knows "possibly".

I guess having your own comic...Being a member of The New Avengers... Along with fighting along the side of the FF, X-Men, The HULK...etc. Doesn't garner you enough legitimacy for this tourney.

🙂

Here's my Pick;
Herald level
Superman Red/Blue

Enhanced Meta Level
Dane
Grail

Meta
Backlash
Havok

Street
Iron Fist
Zealot

Sorta off topic, but Typhus made Boba Fett a pick as street level. But he's more likely meta due to his technology. Can we get a ruling on that?

Yeah i second that he should be meta...

Maybe E-meta if he gets Slave I.

Yeah, so everyone alright w/ my current pick..

All except Havok. I'm not sure about him. Havok is probably closer to E. Meta than meta.

I would'nt exactly put him to E. Meta class his just not that versatile as the other guys he just pack powerfull blast but nothing a forcefield could handle.. Ie.. Polaris, IW...

Hahahaha, oh my god, people, be aware. Joining this tourney means you're risking the tourney starter vanishing into thin air midway through this thing, leaving you all with your thumbs stuck up your @$$es.

Originally posted by Roldz
Here's my Pick;
Herald level
Superman Red/Blue

Enhanced Meta Level
Dane
Grail

Meta
Backlash
Havok

Street
Iron Fist
Zealot

damn you picked iron fist in meta and now you change it to street, if you hand´t done that i would had choosen iron fist first for street

Originally posted by Scoobless

Temugin - Mandarin's rings have always kept him well above Iron Man in terms of power ... has a ring that disintegrates matter and one that can manipulate matter

Ruling: Enhanced Meta
The tournament rules limit his certain powers of the rings to be banned. If you your refering to direct tranmutation of the opponent and other certain powers that violate the rules.

Originally posted by Scoobless

Violator - seems to be completely invulnerable

"He is immune to most terrestrial weapons, which pass through him without doing any real injury."

I have a problem with that. Re-choose

Originally posted by Scoobless

Vixen - Far outweighs Spider-Man in powerset .... Spider-Man's powers are only a fraction of her overall abilities[/q]

Ruling: Meta
If she doesn't get colossus level strength, then it's fine.
She can only use one animal power at time. She has to abandon any power she has before switching again. She also prefers to use stealth-like atributes of animals

Originally posted by Scoobless

Quicksilver - would pound Spider-Man into pulp inside 20 seconds

This quicksilver has to be Pre-Isotope E, AND Pre-Terrigen Mists for him to be meta.

This would be how quicksilver would operate at meta level.

"Quicksilver has been timed at speeds of up to 175 miles per hour, approximately three times faster than the fastest land animal, the cheetah. He has sufficient energy reserves to enable him to run at this average speed for about four hours, whereupon he must reduce his speed, replenish his body's store of energy, or do both. "

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/q/quicksilver.htm

Originally posted by Scoobless

Omega Red - can drain life force

Ruling: Enhanced Meta

"The severity of the effect is based on the endurance, health, and relative proximity of the victims. Normal humans would be killed in a matter of seconds of exposure, while beings with heightened endurance can withstand it for minutes or hours."

Plus certain armor clad heroes aren't even affected by the death factor and he can only dry the life force of those ensnared by his tentacles, so all you would need to do is stay away.

Originally posted by Scoobless

Mr Fantastic - virtually invulnerable ... should be in Enhanced

Hmm...he is pretty tough. But Reed is vulnerable to energy based attacks and get hurt by being Superheated or Supercooled. He will start to melt when being superheated or supercooled.

Ruling: Enhanced Meta

Originally posted by Scoobless

Prometheus - fine if we trim off the Superboy owning weaponry

Yeah, he won't get that

Originally posted by Scoobless

Gambit (Death) - OHK with that poison thing

His poison will not kill right away. It slowly kills you. This gambit will not get the enhanced kinectic control such as looking at things and making them blow either. Basically gambit that can either make things charged and blow up by touching or turning them into gas by touching them. Also, he cannot use his power directly on his opponents body or armor.

Originally posted by Scoobless

Classic Deathstroke - If the same as current is too strong for street level/immortal

This guy doesn't get his immortal powers ala super regeneration and immortality.

Originally posted by Scoobless

Baron Zemo - he's fine if he doesn't have the moonstones

If he's street then he gets no moonstones.

Originally posted by Scoobless

Gamora - Beyond Captain America level strength/durability

When she first appeared she didn't have any powers. She only trained skills and quite skilled in hand to hand combat. If it's that version then its fine. "Pre-Infinity Watch" must be specified if choosing her for street.

Originally posted by Scoobless

Ultimate Spider-Man - way too powerful for street

Agreed. He's meta at least.

Originally posted by Scoobless

Ultimate Captain America - most KMCers agree that he's far stronger/more durable than regular Cap (has caught a large tree before)

Proof of this? Also it seems to me that this captain america is just a more vicious version that uses guns and whatever means necessary to take the opponent. Also, 616 captain america has stated that he holds back certain tactics and strategies that would endanger human life. Also since this is questionable, his strength would be reduced to the max of 616 captain america.

Ruling: Street.

Originally posted by Scoobless

M (Monet St. Croix)

😈

I don't know what your trying to pull, but I would have expected better from you since your such a strong advocate of everyone being on equal terms. Shame on you.

M is not meta in the least. Re-choose.

Originally posted by stormfront13
Herald: Pulsar
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Rambeau,_Monica

E.Meta: Mimic, and Prysm
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/chara...asp?fldAuto=712
http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/prysm.html

Meta:Vixen, Meltdown
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=698
http://www.answers.com/topic/vixen-comics

Street:Echo, Ravenger
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Echo_(Maya_Lopez)
http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/rose.html

Echo is meta.