Biblical salvation, by faith only?

Started by Regret3 pages

Originally posted by Nellinator
To be fair to Freud he made some strong contributions outside of behavior analysis. Of course, his behavior analysis is all crap, but his introduction of the idea of developmental stages is rather influential everywhere. His dream theory of day residue is also fairly good.
🤨 Freud was antithesis to behavior analysis. Freud was the father of psychoanalysis. Behavior analysis does not hold Freud of any value that I am aware of.

As to his dream theories, dreams are merely random firing of neurons which then begin a series of firing that generally follow, thus a seeming near conscious experience. There is no evidence supporting any tie between a persons activities during periods of wakefulness and dreams.

Outside behavior analysis, his contributions are minimal, and the harm he caused was great. People think of Freud when they think of psychology, this misconception is worse than nearly anything else he did. His flaws so far outweigh his contributions as to make his presence in the history of psychology abhorent to many, if not most, psychologists.

Originally posted by Regret
🤨 Freud was antithesis to behavior analysis. Freud was the father of psychoanalysis. Behavior analysis does not hold Freud of any value that I am aware of.

As to his dream theories, dreams are merely random firing of neurons which then begin a series of firing that generally follow, thus a seeming near conscious experience. There is no evidence supporting any tie between a persons activities during periods of wakefulness and dreams.

Outside behavior analysis, his contributions are minimal, and the harm he caused was great. People think of Freud when they think of psychology, this misconception is worse than nearly anything else he did. His flaws so far outweigh his contributions as to make his presence in the history of psychology abhorent to many, if not most, psychologists.

Exactly....Freud himself was a nutcase...one of his many teachings was that if you dream about your teeth falling out, that means you want to have sex with your mother 😘

He's like a much more obnoxious version of me.....everything in his line of reasoning goes back to sex....he relates all concepts to sex, even the ones where sex is irrelevant.

I think he had a permanent droolio smilie in his head that endured throughout his entire career

Originally posted by Regret
🤨 Freud was antithesis to behavior analysis. Freud was the father of psychoanalysis. Behavior analysis does not hold Freud of any value that I am aware of.

As to his dream theories, dreams are merely random firing of neurons which then begin a series of firing that generally follow, thus a seeming near conscious experience. There is no evidence supporting any tie between a persons activities during periods of wakefulness and dreams.

Outside behavior analysis, his contributions are minimal, and the harm he caused was great. People think of Freud when they think of psychology, this misconception is worse than nearly anything else he did. His flaws so far outweigh his contributions as to make his presence in the history of psychology abhorent to many, if not most, psychologists.


He did dabble in behavior analysis. Defense mechanisms would be a major contribution of his.

This is just one theory of dreams. There are many others. None has proven more valid than the other. I personally believe different dreams can be related to different theories. Day residue does apply in many dreams, but not in others as I do believe that many dreams are random firing of neurons.

I agree with you. Freud made things much worse, but his influence does still exist.

Originally posted by Nellinator
He did dabble in behavior analysis. Defense mechanisms would be a major contribution of his.

This is just one theory of dreams. There are many others. None has proven more valid than the other. I personally believe different dreams can be related to different theories. Day residue does apply in many dreams, but not in others as I do believe that many dreams are random firing of neurons.

I agree with you. Freud made things much worse, but his influence does still exist.

I also beleive Dreams are more than just neuron firings....just like our conciousness is more than just neural activity....just like our existance is more than just awareness....

Originally posted by Nellinator
He did dabble in behavior analysis. Defense mechanisms would be a major contribution of his.
🤨 Defense mechanisms are not a behavioral concept. I have never heard of Freud doing anything in the area.

Originally posted by Regret
🤨 Defense mechanisms are not a behavioral concept. I have never heard of Freud doing anything in the area.

If I am thinking the right defense mech. it had to do with his "advanced" thinking on the ego, superego and Id. The "ego defense mechanism" is the barrier between Id and SE that stops them from conflicting (since the things the two represent aren't all that compataible.)

The mechanisms themselves later came to be things like denial and rationalisation, I believe it is claimed he was the first one to come up with the concept, but like so many of his theories those potential useful ones had to be fixed up/expanded up/reigned in by later thinkers in the field.

Originally posted by Regret
🤨 Defense mechanisms are not a behavioral concept. I have never heard of Freud doing anything in the area.

I know, they were supposed to be in seperate paragraphs. As in, defensive mechanisms are a major contribution of his, outside of behavior analysis. Of course, Freud really predated the modern idea of behavior analysis, but many of his theories were trying to explain behavior and tendencies.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The entire premise behind Christianity is faulty and mostly wrong,

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Originally posted by ska57
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This was the most on topic post on this page.

Iron Chariots

. . . the idea that God would come to earth, take physical form and sacrifice Himself, to Himself, as a loophole for laws He created, in order to save us from His wrath—that defines a schizophrenic deity, not a benevolent one.

The notion that God had to jump through hoops instead of simply changing the law is patently absurd. Consider a similar dilemma in the movie "Coming to America," where James Earl Jones, as king, is explaining his objections about his son's non-traditional choice of a bride, to his wife. "It's tradition," he says, "and who am I to change tradition?" His wife poignantly responds, "I thought you were king."

Originally posted by ska57
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Ya, I know... the truth can hurt and hard to understand. 🤣