Originally posted by Starhawk
Still want scans, but he wasn't breathing, hence dying.Page.2
*Full page of GR standing over the body of Dr.Strange, no clear pupils on Strange*
Ghost Rider: "and just like that, I'm back in the drivers seat..and holding the bag. I screwed up.Page.3, panel.1
*Ghost rider kneels to Strange's body*Page.3, panel.2
*Ghost Rider puts his head on Strange's chest*
Ghost Rider: ""Oh god.."Page.3, panel.3
*GR trys to revive Strange*
Ghost Rider: "Breathe..C'mon..Breathe!"Page.3, panel.4
*close up on GR looking at Strange's face*
Ghost Rider: "You have to help me, damnit..because I can't help you."
I don't know about you, but to the rest of us not breathing is a pretty bad thing.
And when did Dan ketch's stare cause someone not to breathe? Please provide scans for that as well.
Originally posted by Starhawk
I don't know about you, but to the rest of us not breathing is a pretty bad thing.And when did Dan ketch's stare cause someone not to breathe? Please provide scans for that as well.
That doesn't mean your dead you idiot. Did they do anything to help? no. If he was dying, don't you think they would have done something. Please. Frig, notice your claims of how the penance stare was stronger is no where to be found? another lie of yours.
That I will get, because it's my mission to show your a liar
Wow , you take this wayy to seriously.
Not breathing? It's one sing of a person whos dying. Cause if they don't start breathing again they will be dead. Biology 101.
And once again IF there is a scan of Dan Ketch's stare doing the same thing then it's doesn't make me a liar since I asked when it happened and for you to prove it.
That's me not being 100% and asking you for proof.
You shouldn't take the debates so personally.
()=Inner thoughts
""=Talking
**=what's happening
Page.8, panel.1
*flashback of GR escaping Hell and falling to Earth*
Numecet: (You--and only you--possess the ability to transverse between the planes..this is why he used you to escape.)
Page.8, panel.2
*flashback big lightening blast*
Numecet: (But unlike you, Lucifer has no physical repository on the mortal plane in which to reside--so when he crossed over...)
Page.8, panel.3
*flashback, huge explosion*
Numecet: (..He disintegrated)
Page.8, panel.4
*close up on Numecet*
Numecet: "like a falling star"
Page.9, panel.1
*shot of Numecet and GR*
Ghost Rider: "But..he's here! I've seen him"
Numecet: "You've only seen peices of him."
Page.9, panel.2
*shot of falling rocks*
Numecet: (When Lucifer's celestial form, disintegrated, the seperate particles rained down on Earth--)
Page.9, panel.3
*shot of falling rock about to hit a hospital*
Numecet: "--Coming to rest in the bodies of those who were, at that moment"
Page.9, panel.4
*shot of morge*
Numecet: "--crossing over to the immortal plane, taking possession of their souls"
Page.9, panel.5
*shot of dead body rising on morgue table*
Numecet: "..and reawakening them."
Page.10, panel.1
*Shot of GR and Numecet*
Ghost Rider: "How many?"
Page.11, panel.2
*flashback of GR dealing with the trucker*
Page.11, panel.3
*Ghost Rider yelling*
Ghost Rider: I said, How many?"
Page.11, panel.4
*shot of Numecet"
Page.11, panel.5
*shot of Numecet"
Numecet: "surely, you already know the number of the beast, Johnny"
Notice not once are they helping Strange
Originally posted by Starhawk
Wow , you take this wayy to seriously.Not breathing? It's one sing of a person whos dying. Cause if they don't start breathing again they will be dead. Biology 101.
And once again IF there is a scan of Dan Ketch's stare doing the same thing then it's doesn't make me a liar since I asked when it happened and for you to prove it.
That's me not being 100% and asking you for proof.
You shouldn't take the debates so personally.
Dr.Strange ventures into space, and can't die as stated in his series. Get it? oh probally not
Right, and did they aid him to help him breath again? no. thus he wasn't serious
God you anger me, when you made comments about similar manner did you provide evidence? no. Yet I have to automatically do it and then you claim I can't and attacked my credibility. No your done.
You personally attacked my credibility, now yours is in question
Originally posted by Starhawk
Still isn't scans. so I have no way of knowing if it's real or not.And I never said it killed him, I said it nearly killed him.
You have the damn ISSUE YOURSELF
oh no? Also stop dodging where is your quote that the penance stare is stronger?
Originally posted by Starhawk
It sent Dr Strange into a cataonic state and it would've killed him.
Then you made several comments about how the penance stare could kill, and no where was that stated either. You implied it could have killed him, when Death even stated Strange is immortal
Originally posted by Starhawk
But Strange DID make comment as to him being granted more power and the old Penance stare didn't kill.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes and the Penance Stare never used to kill people.
Originally posted by Starhawk
It was killing him, Clea had to save him.
Originally posted by Starhawk
yes and he wasn't breathing, hence dying. Read a biology textbook.
I graduated from pre: health and not breathing does not equal death fool. So if I hold my breath or get punched in the throat I'm dead? It means you can't take in oxygen for sustanance, but notice in the issue not one of them help him to breath. So was he really in serious trouble? By your logic he was already dead. Brilliant.
Alright captain wow, where or where is the scan that shows the two desperately trying to save Strange who all this time when they were talking wasn't breathing? they talked for an extedned period of time and not once did they do anything? Oh my oh my...ignoring points is your strong suit. Oh my oh my, your still dodging your earlier comments about how Strange stated the penance stare was stronger. Oh my oh my.
Originally posted by Starhawk
As I said your the one on a (far too) personal mission to prove me wrong, you provide scans.And ask any paramedic, not breathing means dying. We aren't talking about diffculty breathing, we are talking about passed out and NOT breathing at all.
inamilist will shortly, still dodging the fact your earlier claims are lies? oh my.
You obviouslly missed the point. As if Strange was not breathing for that extended period of time, don't you think he would have..I don't know been dead? Get the analogy? if he was actually dying don't you think he would have been dead by your logic? yet they did nothing, and yet they continued talking over top of his body like nothing happened. They didn't help...AT ALL.
Originally posted by thedude1948
Strange seemingly had no pulse and wasn't breathing, and the first thing Numecet did when she appeared was check on Strange. But even if Strange wasn't breathing or had no pulse I still wouldn't say he was close to death, it is Strange after all.....
Exactally, even Death said he was immortal. Death even tried personally tried to go after Strange and of course still lives.
Part 1, the stare and Strange's reaction
nothing really revealing here, just the PS.
Ghost Rider explains why he can use the Penenance stare and stating that clearly the Spirit of Vengence is working through him*
pretty self explainitory
here things get interesting
the first 3 panels show that, yup, strange isnt breathing, which, as any paramedic will tell you, leads to further complications such as heart failure, which leads to brain failure, which leads to death.
Johnny clearly knows this, as by the third panel he is panicking and by the end of the page he is clutching the body desperatly
*please excuse my lack of knowledge on GR and the Spirit of Vengence, but couldn't the fact that it was the spirit and not just GR in control explain why the PS was stronger, if it even was?
