Originally posted by Starhawk
Read over the thread. King_Mungi and I came to an agreement on the issue.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
What the hell are you talking about???
You haven't talked over non of those statements only the stupidity that you have said that the Penance Stare is more powerfull which it isn't and it nearly killed Strange which it hasn't.You haven't talked about anything about Ghost Rider beating Doomsdsay.
Re-read the thread.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
What the hell are you talking about???
You haven't talked over non of those statements only the stupidity that you have said that the Penance Stare is more powerfull which it isn't and it nearly killed Strange which it hasn't.You haven't talked about anything about Ghost Rider beating Doomsdsay.
Originally posted by Galan007
😆I wouldn't call your unfactual oppinion any sort of evidence... Nor do I think [b]YOU
have covered ANYTHING.Advice:
Loose the DC bias.It makes you look childish. 🙄 [/B]
Actually I'm more of a Marvel Fan. In any event read over the thread and you will see we covered everything.
The GR catching strange thing is not really a great feat for him
Strange was trying to talk to GR, not trying to subdue him
If strange had gone all out I dont think there is much debate about weather or not he could decimate Ghost Rider
About the DD superspeed, weather or not it is explicitly in his powerset or not, he has the feats, such as killing superman. Yes, superman is probably faster than DD, but to think that a person of normal speed could finish of supes is ridiculous.
Originally posted by Starhawk
He doesn't have to fight Doomsday or even make a violent move to put the stare on him, just look him in the eye, since Doomsday doesn't know about the stare he wouldn't know the danger. And DOS Doomsday didn't attack first, he only fought the JLA when they got in his way.
But this is a VS topic, DD is supposed to jump to GR as fast as he can.
Are you stating that the stare is absolutely instantaneous, in a time frame of zero as long as GR is locking his eyes with someone. Are you saying that there is proof on panel that at the very moment the eyes are locked, no matter what the other one does, no matter his speed, the effect of the stare will be inmediate? That it will happen even faster than Ghost Rider can think? Is this what I have to understand?
Originally posted by Bentley
But this is a VS topic, DD is supposed to jump to GR as fast as he can.Are you stating that the stare is absolutely instantaneous, in a time frame of zero as long as GR is locking his eyes with someone. Are you saying that there is proof on panel that at the very moment the eyes are locked, no matter what the other one does, no matter his speed, the effect of the stare will be inmediate? That it will happen even faster than Ghost Rider can think? Is this what I have to understand?
Hey, Juggernaught66666 (sorry if I forgot a few sixes 😛) Let's keep the bashing and hatred to a minimum. I've not said much, but I've been reading this thread for a while, and I was really relieved when the Mungi/Starhawk anger died over, please don't start another over-agressive feud.
I totally agree that GR vs DD and GR vs Strange are two totally different topics. GR vs Strange featured Strange teleporting away, GR wasn't under any pressure. Against DD, though, he has to worry about getting his head knocked off from a very fast dude. Furthermore, from what I know about Doomsday he can take a lot of punishment, and most of what he's done doesn't amount to what he's taken. What I mean is that crushing people and ruining houses is clearly bad, but getting attacked on all sides by the likes of Superman, Flash, GL etc... is worse in terms of abuse.
Originally posted by lorddreamer
Hey, Juggernaught66666 (sorry if I forgot a few sixes 😛) Let's keep the bashing and hatred to a minimum. I've not said much, but I've been reading this thread for a while, and I was really relieved when the Mungi/Starhawk anger died over, please don't start another over-agressive feud.I totally agree that GR vs DD and GR vs Strange are two totally different topics. GR vs Strange featured Strange teleporting away, GR wasn't under any pressure. Against DD, though, he has to worry about getting his head knocked off from a very fast dude. Furthermore, from what I know about Doomsday he can take a lot of punishment, and most of what he's done doesn't amount to what he's taken. What I mean is that crushing people and ruining houses is clearly bad, but getting attacked on all sides by the likes of Superman, Flash, GL etc... is worse in terms of abuse.
Yea, I read back and most of his comments have been well refuted, that's totally cool. All I'm saying is its a pretty enjoyable and educational read so far, and I'd hate for it to get closed.
Anyway, what do you think of what I said. I haven't anything to back that up with cuz I've no scanner at the moment.
Originally posted by lorddreamer
Yea, I read back and most of his comments have been well refuted, that's totally cool. All I'm saying is its a pretty enjoyable and educational read so far, and I'd hate for it to get closed.
Anyway, what do you think of what I said. I haven't anything to back that up with cuz I've no scanner at the moment.
Actually other then the super speed, not much of anyting I said has been refutted.
I said the new power of The Penance Stare could kill, and if Strange wasn't immortal the fact that he fell into a coma and stopped breathing would've killed any normal person.
Doomsday attacked things that were in his way. He was travelling on a direct line accross the country, he didn't attack things that weren't in his path till they attacked him.
And he only moved at super speed once the fights had started, most of his travel across country was from leaping like the hulk does.
All Ghost Rider needs to do is look at him for a second for the Stare to go into effect.
Now as to it's effect, THe Penance Stare forces you to relive what youv'e done to your victims as if you were them. So your mental state is irrelevent you feel what they felt, you comprehend it as they comprehended it. You understand it as THEY understood it.
And we still dont know the effect Hellfire would have on Doomsday.
Now see that? I counter debated without having to resort to being rude or insulting.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Actually other then the super speed, not much of anyting I said has been refutted.I said the new power of The Penance Stare could kill, and if Strange wasn't immortal the fact that he fell into a coma and stopped breathing would've killed any normal person.
Doomsday attacked things that were in his way. He was travelling on a direct line accross the country, he didn't attack things that weren't in his path till they attacked him.
And he only moved at super speed once the fights had started, most of his travel across country was from leaping like the hulk does.
All Ghost Rider needs to do is look at him for a second for the Stare to go into effect.
Now as to it's effect, THe Penance Stare forces you to relive what youv'e done to your victims as if you were them. So your mental state is irrelevent you feel what they felt, you comprehend it as they comprehended it. You understand it as THEY understood it.
And we still dont know the effect Hellfire would have on Doomsday.
Now see that? I counter debated without having to resort to being rude or insulting.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Again wring he killed because he found killing funny why do you think he killed the bird and deer...Just for fun anyway this doesn't matter here.
Since this a fight between them Doomsday will attack instantly he Ghost Rider won't have anytime to react.
You haven't countered anything so you put the Hell Fire above a Guardians power??Because a Guardian had to sacrifice his life in order to rmove Doomsday from Oa(Guardians are around skyfather level Imo)
Even if Ghost Rider could use the Stare on him(which won't happen) he could evolve above the Penance Stare since he was able to evolve above the Omega Beam.
The penance stare is magical. You're completely ignoring Doomsday having Kryptonian DNA. Even so, The Penance Stare wouldn't kill him. It would leave him in eternal torment.
Also, he showed speed once. One occasion. Then, Superman was making him look like a fool later on.