Originally posted by python99
Wolverine is Wolverine no matter what wolverine is being used.
Wolverine is the same badass whether he gets owned or not.
First off logan was trained by punisher and fury no one else in HOM.
Not to mention logan about a 60 years younger in house of m.
logan whole character was different he had no were enar the training or the experience. he was far younger then his 616 counter part. They were copmpletwe different.
wait so you believe logan can kill magneto, juggernaut and every other major villain in the world? He did it in a what if wolverine was war. according to your logic that sueable evidence
Originally posted by capt it up
It not the same reality. Logan was complete different. They were made up memories that never took place.First off logan was trained by punisher and fury no one else in HOM.
Not to mention logan about a 60 years younger in house of m.
logan whole character was different he had no were enar the training or the experience. he was far younger then his 616 counter part. They were copmpletwe different.
wait so you believe logan can kill magneto, juggernaut and every other major villain in the world? He did it in a what if wolverine was war. according to your logic that sueable evidence
Do you think that Wolverine wont get owned no matter what reality he is in? 🙄
What I am saying is simple. Wolverine is the same badass in all realities, he will own and be owned by some of his opponents. If this was spiderman being owned you would not have a problem with what reality or version osf Spiderman he is as long as it is him being owned and not Wolverine. Stop defending Wolverines character with reality useage. He is Wolverine and he got owned simple 😉
I cant believe you brought in a what if comic into this discussion.
What if comics are used to keep the reader thinking about what things would be like if that particular event took place. We know that Wolverine does not stand a chance against Magneto. Guess what? Wolverine did not kill Magneto. Are you thinking about the comic right now? hmmmmmmmm what if he did kill Magneto.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
HoM Wolverine doesn't have the same history as 616 Wolverine. In HoM Wolverine's military career started when he was recruited and mind whipped by SHIELD after which he was trained by Nick Fury and the Punisher. He was only used in covert operations, he was taken out of commission during the Human/Mutant War and he was released from duty when the War ended. HoM Wolverine had a fraction of the training and skill 616 Wolverine had. Also the fact that he kept his original name seems to suggest that he never killed Thomas Logan and he and Rose never went on the lam. This would mean he never met Smitty, was never compiled to travel to Japan, and was never trained as a Samurai. HoM Wolverine is not 616 Wolverine and the ability to beat him doesn't transfer over to the original.
Do you understand that python99? I'm not sure how I can explain it in simpler terms. Do I need to make a pop up picture book or write a nursery rhyme for you to understand that 616 Wolverine and HoM Wolverine are different?
Not to mention it was implied in the story line that HoM Wolverine purposely took a fall against Fury so Earshot could get Fury to the Hanger-bay when it was about to explode. Hence the note in Earshots locker which read "You do your part. I did mine."
Originally posted by python99Except it's not the same Wolverine.He hasn't had the same training and experience that 616 has and it does make a difference.Your using an alternate Wolverine to debate with the normal one and that doesn't work any better than using a what if Logan.
Do you think that Wolverine wont get owned no matter what reality he is in? 🙄
What I am saying is simple. Wolverine is the same badass in all realities, he will own and be owned by some of his opponents. If this was spiderman being owned you would not have a problem with what reality or version osf Spiderman he is as long as it is him being owned and not Wolverine. Stop defending Wolverines character with reality useage. He is Wolverine and he got owned simple 😉I cant believe you brought in a what if comic into this discussion.
What if comics are used to keep the reader thinking about what things would be like if that particular event took place. We know that Wolverine does not stand a chance against Magneto. Guess what? Wolverine did not kill Magneto. Are you thinking about the comic right now? hmmmmmmmm what if he did kill Magneto.
I am sorry I gunna get my response later and I tryign really hard not to be mean, but python you are dumb ass rocks if you can not understand different realities means different character.
here a preview of what i gunna type later. 616 logan is over a 100 years old.
HOM wolverine was around 50 and younger then fury.
HOM wolverine was trained by fury and Punisher
616 wolverine was a master martial artist before fury first battle
HOM logan was never trained in japan
616 was trained in japan by the greatest swords men to ever live.
616 logan has good deal more experience then Fury
HOM wolverine has far less expereince then fury
here just a preview hopefully you will understand what I am saying
Originally posted by capt it upalll true...but at the end of the day pointless..... because punisher and Nick Fury still take this one thanks to technology.
I am sorry I gunna get my response later and I tryign really hard not to be mean, but python you are dumb ass rocks if you can not understand different realities means different character.here a preview of what i gunna type later. 616 logan is over a 100 years old.
HOM wolverine was around 50 and younger then fury.
HOM wolverine was trained by fury and Punisher
616 wolverine was a master martial artist before fury first battle
HOM logan was never trained in japan
616 was trained in japan by the greatest swords men to ever live.
616 logan has good deal more experience then Fury
HOM wolverine has far less expereince then fury
here just a preview hopefully you will understand what I am saying
Originally posted by capt it up
I am sorry I gunna get my response later and I tryign really hard not to be mean, but python you are dumb ass rocks if you can not understand different realities means different character.here a preview of what i gunna type later. 616 logan is over a 100 years old.
HOM wolverine was around 50 and younger then fury.
HOM wolverine was trained by fury and Punisher
616 wolverine was a master martial artist before fury first battle
HOM logan was never trained in japan
616 was trained in japan by the greatest swords men to ever live.
616 logan has good deal more experience then Fury
HOM wolverine has far less expereince then fury
here just a preview hopefully you will understand what I am saying
Think before you type and read before you post.
Dumb 😉 The definition of dumb means you cant speak, but I guess you are to STUPID to know that.
Anyways what I am saying is simple.
Question 1- Is that character Wolverine/YES
Question 2- Is this the same Wolverine with claws and a badass attitude? YES
Question 3- Can Wolverine get owned no matter what reality? YES
All I am putting up is a battle between Wolverine and Nick simple. Where it happend ? who cares? When it happened ? Big deal. I have seen so many of your post on a debate whether Spiderman or Wolverine would. and what do you do ? hmmmmmmmm go back and forth showing clips of Spiderman getting thrown around by Wolverine. Stop being a hypocrite. I know you are just putting up showings of the battles the 2 had but I guess I am no better than you 🙄
Sorry man I dont mean to be offensive but I hate HYPOCRITES
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Do you understand that python99? I'm not sure how I can explain it in simpler terms. Do I need to make a pop up picture book or write a nursery rhyme for you to understand that 616 Wolverine and HoM Wolverine are different?Not to mention it was implied in the story line that HoM Wolverine purposely took a fall against Fury so Earshot could get Fury to the Hanger-bay when it was about to explode. Hence the note in Earshots locker which read "You do your part. I did mine."
I know. The point I am trying to make is simple Wolverine is still the same badass Wolverine who just got owned. If it was the other way around no one would be complaining
Originally posted by jgiant
Im just gunna say what everyone is thinking...Punisher could take both these guys on himself and then kill fury just for the hell of it.
Maybe! Given the right equipment CURRENT PUNISHER can hold down his OWN against 616 WOLVERINE.
Capt it up, here you go buddy. 616 all the way
Originally posted by python99
I cant believe you brought in a what if comic into this discussion.
What if comics are used to keep the reader thinking about what things would be like if that particular event took place. We know that Wolverine does not stand a chance against Magneto. Guess what? Wolverine did not kill Magneto. Are you thinking about the comic right now? hmmmmmmmm what if he did kill Magneto.
Are you slow? I beign serous are you? HOM is an alternate reality just like what if are it no better. Hell if any thing it worse. First the what if issue change when logan was capture by apoc. HOM was a different reality from the start. I am not sure how you have such trouble crasping such an ease concept.
Originally posted by python99
Question 1- Is that character Wolverine/YES
Question 2- Is this the same Wolverine with claws and a badass attitude? YES
Question 3- Can Wolverine get owned no matter what reality? YES
Originally posted by python99
All I am putting up is a battle between Wolverine and Nick simple. Where it happend ? who cares? When it happened ? Big deal. I have seen so many of your post on a debate
Originally posted by python99
whether Spiderman or Wolverine would. and what do you do ? hmmmmmmmm go back and forth showing clips of Spiderman getting thrown around by Wolverine. Stop being a hypocrite. I know you are just putting up showings of the battles the 2 had but I guess I am no better than you 🙄Sorry man I dont mean to be offensive but I hate HYPOCRITES
I show 616 evidence what you show is a bunch of useless scans from an alternate universe were logan who history and past is different.
Originally posted by python99
I know. The point I am trying to make is simple Wolverine is still the same badass Wolverine who just got owned. If it was the other way around no one would be complaining
also if it was the other way around we never would of tried to sue it as evidence. WE use cannon stuff not that crap your trying to use.
I have scann of logan killing spiderman in an alternate universe and I would never use it as evidence sicne it not cannon and un usable.
Originally posted by capt it up
No the point is it not the same. Logan was totaly different his whole history past and age.also if it was the other way around we never would of tried to sue it as evidence. WE use cannon stuff not that crap your trying to use.
I have scann of logan killing spiderman in an alternate universe and I would never use it as evidence sicne it not cannon and un usable.
Cap I am making this a simple as possible. Wolverine may not be the same Wolverine but it is still Wolverine. If he was owning Fury would you care?
Originally posted by python99
Cap I am making this a simple as possible. Wolverine may not be the same Wolverine but it is still Wolverine. If he was owning Fury would you care?
