Nope, wrong, I'm putting him below Sirak's level. And it's nice how you constantly point out that the students didn't actually train with a lightsaber as if it's even slightly relevant, when it's not, it's completely irrelevant, the training sabers they used were as good as the real thing, it didn't affect their training in any way. So stop bringing it up.
Go away, I'm not even going to dignify that with a serious response, your a idiot fanboi, if you truly believe some sith student is anywhere near the level of DARTH VADER.
The NSO were perhaps the most martial order of force suers ever, how did they suck? They were only lacking in true sith philosophy and knowledge of ancient sith rituals. That's it!
No, no, no. The KOTOR Period Jedi/Sith were, 4 GALACTIC Wars in a 50 year time period, 3 of those coming back to back. How did they suck? THe list is endless.
"Bane recognized him as one of the lesser students from the Academy on Korriban: so weak in the Dark Side, it wasn't even worth learning his name." pg276
These are the kind of JOKES that are made DARK LORDS.
The Sith students on Korriban were supposedly the best of the best, yet most were made Lords after MONTHS of training just to fill numbers
Githany a Jedi Knight after a few months is promoted to Lord.
Most of the Sith were cannon fodder that were easily killed by CHILDREN swing lightsabers like monkeys
They were all subservient to Kaan a petty, narcissistic lunatic with a force ability to influence people.
Revan alone held more knowledge then their ENTIRE Academy.
They blew.
There were only two sith...
Originally posted by Sexyback
No you didn't. Just because I couldn't be bothered to reply, it doesn't mean shit.
Translation: I have nothing to comeback with so Im gonna say I was busy! Even though Im posting right now and could reply...but that would mean I'd have to have a logical argument...something I lack...along with literacy level above a 4 year old.
Go away, I'm not even going to dignify that with a serious response, your a idiot fanboi, if you truly believe some sith student is anywhere near the level of DARTH VADER.
Whether it was Lucas' intention or not, the OT has made it a fact that Vader sucks ass. So I'm sorry, but it's a fact. And it's nice how you try and make it seem like you didn't just come out with a worthless point, great job brother.
No, no, no. The KOTOR Period Jedi/Sith were, 4 GALACTIC Wars in a 50 year time period, 3 of those coming back to back.
B4 I answer this, explain what you mean by the KotOR time period.
How did they suck? THe list is endless."Bane recognized him as one of the lesser students from the Academy on Korriban: so weak in the Dark Side, it wasn't even worth learning his name." pg276
These are the kind of JOKES that are made DARK LORDS.
These are the kind of arguments that make it clear that your bias against the NSO is astounding.
Bane basically considered him so weak in the darkside in comparison to himself and the other student, considering, you know, the fact that he was one of the lesser students you dolt.
The Sith students on Korriban were supposedly the best of the best, yet most were made Lords after MONTHS of training just to fill numbers
Years, not months. Bane was one of the newest students, and he had at least a year at the academy.
Githany a Jedi Knight after a few months is promoted to Lord.
That was because Githany was that good. She defeats Kiel Charny in JVS who is one of the strongest jedi at the time, wields an unorthodox weapon that makes her all the more deadly, and Sirak viewed her as the biggest threat to his position when she joins the academy.
Most of the Sith were cannon fodder that were easily killed by CHILDREN swing lightsabers like monkeys
Those were the sith minions, not dark lords.
They were all subservient to Kaan a petty, narcissistic lunatic with a force ability to influence people.
It just so happens that his ability to influence people is beyond any other's that we've so far seen, the dark lords obeying him isn't a strike against them, what exactly is your point? Kaan was that strong, being influenced by him is not a strike against them.
Revan alone held more knowledge then their ENTIRE Academy.
The archives in the academy only contained knowledge of the history and philosophy of the ancient sith, so that statement is in respect to sith history and philosophy, and not related to combat, so moot point.
Whether it was Lucas' intention or not, the OT has made it a fact that Vader sucks ass. So I'm sorry, but it's a fact. And it's nice how you try and make it seem like you didn't just come out with a worthless point, great job brother.
Oh Im sorry ALMIGHTY GOD of Star WArs Planet! YOUR idiotic view is the only ONE we must accept.
The OT featured Vader never trying to his fullest at all. Oh and you still suck ass.
The point was Sirak is nowhere near Vader. FACT.
B4 I answer this, explain what you mean by the KotOR time period.
From the GSW to the Rise of Nihlius and Sion.
Bane basically considered him so weak in the darkside in comparison to himself and the other student, considering, you know, the fact that he was one of the lesser students you dolt.
And look here you dolt, why in the hell is a LESSER student being made a DARK LORD OF THE SITH.
Years, not months. Bane was one of the newest students, and he had at least a year at the academy.
Which makes it even sadder.
That was because Githany was that good. She defeats Kiel Charny in JVS who is one of the strongest jedi at the time, wields an unorthodox weapon that makes her all the more deadly, and Sirak viewed her as the biggest threat to his position when she joins the academy.
LOL! Kiel Charny is one of the strongest! According to whom!? You? And you do know it was Darovit who helps Githany kill Kiel, Githany got owned on her own. She blew, figuratively and literally probably.
Those were the sith minions, not dark lords.
Thats the reflection of the Sith army being owned by kids especially when they were consisted of people like Dessel.
It just so happens that his ability to influence people is beyond any other's that we've so far seen, the dark lords obeying him isn't a strike against them, what exactly is your point? Kaan was that strong, being influenced by him is not a strike against them.
No Kaan isn't "that" strong its their that "weak" to be goaded around by this lunatic, Bane was the only one strong enough to not be dominated by his "act"
The archives in the academy only contained knowledge of the history and philosophy of the ancient sith, so that statement is in respect to sith history and philosophy, and not related to combat, so moot point.
Oh and you can prove this how? Especially when Bane said in regards to force powers that Revan had more then the Achieve had to offer.
Originally posted by Sexyback
Sexy, as usual, all you do is ride other people's arguments. Don't you want to be your own person? 🙁
Now see, if that were true, then I wouldn't have created an argument in the beginning. However, since you like to constantly embarass yourself, keep typing without reading the thread. I assure you, this will be a more humorous and less intelligent thread with you here.
Whether it was Lucas' intention or not, the OT has made it a fact that Vader sucks ass. So I'm sorry, but it's a fact. And it's nice how you try and make it seem like you didn't just come out with a worthless point, great job brother.Oh Im sorry ALMIGHTY GOD of Star WArs Planet! YOUR idiotic view is the only ONE we must accept.
[quote]The OT featured Vader never trying to his fullest at all. Oh and you still suck ass.
O RLY? From the Ultimate Visual Guide, PG83:
'Darth Vader senses his former master's presence on the Death Star, and intercepts Kenobi. They duel with lightsabers, and Vader is confident that he will be the victor, asserting that the roles have reversed since their last fateful encounter on Mustafar - and that now, he is the master. As their battle brings them to the corridor outside the docking bay, the Sith Lord does his best to wear down the aged jedi, and when Ben appears to surrender, Vader does not hesitate to strike.'
The point was you've yet to respond to my ownage of you and yet you keep posting the same crap I've already disproved.
I couldn't be bothered to, there's nothing more to it, all your 'ownage' consisted of are strawman arguments, irrelevant misdirection and false analogies.
From the GSW to the Rise of Nihlius and Sion.
As in Exar Kun's sith war?
And look here you dolt, why in the hell is a LESSER student being made a DARK LORD OF THE SITH.
I really don't see your point here. The problem here, for you, is that you can't quantify how strong/weak the student is, so you can't really make an argument. You know, you really should try and be a bit more clearer, I wouldn't want to miss your point. You know what, start again, but change the wording and try and write a bit better.
LOL! Kiel Charny is one of the strongest! According to whom!? You? And you do know it was Darovit who helps Githany kill Kiel, Githany got owned on her own. She blew, figuratively and literally probably.
According to the NEC, he was labelled a 'champion' of the jedi. And Githany defeated him all on her own, she had cut of his arm and he was lying there helpless, Darovit just delivered the execution.
Thats the reflection of the Sith army being owned by kids especially when they were consisted of people like Dessel.
Are you talking Gloom Walker Dessel here? Really, you need to be more clearer, I'm finding it really hard to get some of your points here. If you're trying to make an argument against the DLs of the NSO by using the sith minions, good luck buddy! 👆
No Kaan isn't "that" strong its their that "weak" to be goaded around by this lunatic, Bane was the only one strong enough to not be dominated by his "act"
Do you actually have proof that Kaan was weak? No? Thought so. Now here's the problem with your argument, you are arguing that the NSO masters were weak because they were influenced so easily, correct? Well for your argument to work, you would actually have to proof that Kaan's mind influence was weak, but you can't do that, so you have no argument. You're doing this quite a lot, that is what many of your arguments consist of, making comparisons mixed with unsupported assumptions.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Now see, if that were true, then I wouldn't have created an argument in the beginning. However, since you like to constantly embarass yourself, keep typing without reading the thread. I assure you, this will be a more humorous and less intelligent thread with you here.
You know Sexy, I'm that confident in my superiority in debate over you that I think I could argue the most ridiculous point, and I think I would still beat you. In fact, let's put it to the test. I'm gonna argue that Freedon Nadd is the chosen one, kinda ridiculous don't you think? Prove me wrong, if you can. If you can't, that's kinda worrying.
From the Ultimate Visual Guide, PG83:
'Darth Vader senses his former master's presence on the Death Star, and intercepts Kenobi. They duel with lightsabers, and Vader is confident that he will be the victor
, asserting that the roles have reversed since their last fateful encounter on Mustafar - and that now, he is the master. As their battle brings them to the corridor outside the docking bay, the Sith Lord does his best to wear down the aged jedi, and when Ben appears to surrender, Vader does not hesitate to strike.'
Thats why he wouldn't try his hardest, you don't seem to get that Vader going all out in a duel does not mean him slamming his lightsbaer against Old Ben's, it emans him taking it serious from the start, as he did with Dark Lady, as he did with Maul. So on and so forth.
I couldn't be bothered to, there's nothing more to it, all your 'ownage' consisted of are strawman arguments, irrelevant misdirection and false analogies.
Then why not dissect my argument piece by piece and point out the fallacies, you obviously have enough time to do so since your still posting here.
As in Exar Kun's sith war?
THE GREAT SITH WAR. YES. Acronym: GSW.
I really don't see your point here. The problem here, for you, is that you can't quantify how strong/weak the student is, so you can't really make an argument. You know, you really should try and be a bit more clearer, I wouldn't want to miss your point. You know what, start again, but change the wording and try and write a bit better.
Uh yes I can, if even some of the strongest students like Githany and Sirak could barley shot out a strand of Force lightning and they are the purported "top dogs" then a lesser student like this wouldn't have even been included in the lesson. AND HE IS A DARK LORD.
According to the NEC, he was labelled a 'champion' of the jedi. And Githany defeated him all on her own, she had cut of his arm and he was lying there helpless, Darovit just delivered the execution.
Direct Quote please, I believe NOTHING you say. And since when does Champion = The Strongest.
a person who fights for or defends any person or cause: a champion of the oppressed. a fighter or warrior.
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=8&page=086
Easy to beat an foe when he you know...wont fight back... 🙄
Are you talking Gloom Walker Dessel here? Really, you need to be more clearer, I'm finding it really hard to get some of your points here. If you're trying to make an argument against the DLs of the NSO by using the sith minions, good luck buddy! 👆
No, my point was toward the NSO in general, I never limited it to Dark Lords, they ALL suck.
Do you actually have proof that Kaan was weak? No? Thought so. Now here's the problem with your argument, you are arguing that the NSO masters were weak because they were influenced so easily, correct? Well for your argument to work, you would actually have to proof that Kaan's mind influence was weak, but you can't do that, so you have no argument. You're doing this quite a lot, that is what many of your arguments consist of, making comparisons mixed with unsupported assumptions.
Sexy, as usual, all you do is ride other people's arguments. Don't you want to be your own person?
LMAO 😆
Now see, if that were true, then I wouldn't have created an argument in the beginning. However, since you like to constantly embarass yourself, keep typing without reading the thread. I assure you, this will be a more humorous and less intelligent thread with you here.
😂 😂
The whole forum practically hates Planet. I find it quite amusing.... 😆
You know Sexy, I'm that confident in my superiority in debate over you that I think I could argue the most ridiculous point, and I think I would still beat you. In fact, let's put it to the test. I'm gonna argue that Freedon Nadd is the chosen one, kinda ridiculous don't you think? Prove me wrong, if you can. If you can't, that's kinda worrying.
ROFL, what a stupid topic?
Answer: George Lucas
Extra Proof: From Star Wars Databank- "A child born of prophecy, possibly conceived by the will of the Force itself..."
A child born of prophecy, basically none other than the Chosen One.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I think you are seriously misinterpreting the statement. ROTS Vader was nowhere near as powerful as Sidious, at least not yet. Vader at his PEAK would be twice as powerful as ROTJ Sidious, that's all. Furthermore, Vader was no pushover in saber combat. He did defeat many jedi, and darth Maul. Bane was good with a lightsaber but not that good, not to mention your control of the force is a key determinant in your skill with a saber, so while Bane's control is incredible, Vader's control is better.
"From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor". If from then on he wasn't as strong as the Emperor then before that he was as strong as the Emperor.
Originally posted by Sexyback
Only because people think I'm a sock and because I shortly went through a dick phase which people can't seem to get over.
To be honest, that "dick phase" has encompassed most of your time here - which you seemed to have devolved to, back on that "Legacy Comics" thread ("I don't believe you! Prove it! Waa!"😉. Likewise, the whole sock issue spawns from your constant references to events made before your time here, your similar attitude/opinions/tactics that Nebaris used, and your references to EoD - despite you not being registered there.
I lurk.
Or, you're a sock. Especially if you see my profile, you've made references to situations about myself and you. Which don't fit in, exactly, unless you're Nebaris/Kas'im. There are methods around the whole "sock-checker". It has been done before. It is also extremely convenient how you lurk around EoD and know enough about KMC despite your recent registry.
And sure, I kind of go back and forth with the whole acting like a dick thing, but people take it too seriously, they should just see that it's nothing personal.
Being a dick isn't appealing. What can I say? When people act like a dick, it is fun to see them get humiliated, and only encourages further public embarrassment.