Originally posted by LanaAlthough you are correct, if the tips along with the wage do not equal the same as if they were getting minimum wage, the employer is required by law to make up the difference
Servers do not get paid minimum wage in the US. They are paid a significant amount UNDER minimum wage.
not that it makes it any better, of course
Originally posted by Mišt
You should be able to dispute it then, min. wage here is $6.50 I think, currency converter says its about $5US, if you are earning under that and you are over 20 then somethings ****ed up. You're not with any workers unions or anything?Hell you would make twice that in fast food, why you would get a job like that in the first place is beyond me....srug
$8US = $10AU (Im using this http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi so it might be off), you work at EB right? How the **** does a 20 yr old make under $10AU at a retail chain store? 😑 I gotta say, your economy sucks, you would make more at McDonalds doing piss work than retail.
I work in fast food and I make about $9US @ 19 yrs old, and its not even that big of a chain brand like McD's. And I thought that was piss pay so I got a second job and make $9.6US on training pay with about 3 upcoming pay rises in the next 3 months..
But back on the tipping thing, some of the customers might be doing the same kind of work and simply cant afford to spare the extra $ despite how good the service is, usually they have signs here saying something like 'A 10% service charge applies to all transactions' or something of the sort rather than people paying for what it advertised and then just assuming people will tip.
The national minimum wage in the US is $5.15, though what it actually is varies from state to state; in Illinois it is $6.50 right now but will be soon raised to $7.50. Minimum wage for servers is $2.13 an hour, I think, or something about that, because they are expected to make up the difference in tips.
Right now I make $6.90 an hour at EB, which is 40 cents over minimum wage. If I were working fast food - which was my last job - I would be making minimum wage. When I worked at the movie theater I made $6.75 an hour. Wages also are not at all effected by your age either, for the most part.
Can't really try and dispute things like wages with employers, either, as most states in the US are 'at will' - meaning you can be fired on whatever whim your boss thinks up.
Simply put, in the US the pay for retail/fast food/service jobs sucks ass, and it seems the laws care more about protecting the big businesses than the people themselves.
Originally posted by Mišt
Hell you would make twice that in fast food, why you would get a job like that in the first place is beyond me....srug
I don't know where Lana lives, but where I am, you're lucky if you find a job that pays over min. wage. Over here fast food is a very shitty job.
I'm not a waiter but I do deliver for the local pizza place and I make more in tips then I do through a weekly paycheck, so I NEED the tips.
Originally posted by Lana
The national minimum wage in the US is $5.15, though what it actually is varies from state to state; in Illinois it is $6.50 right now but will be soon raised to $7.50. Minimum wage for servers is $2.13 an hour, I think, or something about that, because they are expected to make up the difference in tips.Right now I make $6.90 an hour at EB, which is 40 cents over minimum wage. If I were working fast food - which was my last job - I would be making minimum wage. When I worked at the movie theater I made $6.75 an hour. Wages also are not at all effected by your age either, for the most part.
Can't really try and dispute things like wages with employers, either, as most states in the US are 'at will' - meaning you can be fired on whatever whim your boss thinks up.
Simply put, in the US the pay for retail/fast food/service jobs sucks ass, and it seems the laws care more about protecting the big businesses than the people themselves.
That is maaajorly screwed.
Originally posted by Röland
I don't know where Lana lives, but where I am, you're lucky if you find a job that pays over min. wage. Over here fast food is a very shitty job.I'm not a waiter but I do deliver for the local pizza place and I make more in tips then I do through a weekly paycheck, so I NEED the tips.
But thats why its called minimum wage, they cant pay you under it or else its illegal 🤨 Glad I dont live there..
Originally posted by Mišt
That is maaajorly screwed.But thats why its called minimum wage, they cant pay you under it or else its illegal 🤨 Glad I dont live there..
Yeah, it really is.
And what he means is that most places pay minimum wage and that's it, not a cent over. And then if you're a server you don't even get that, you have a different minimum wage.
And you guys dont have any workers unions or anything? I've got one, basically they nick $5 out of my pay each week and then they go off and do deals and stuff with the businesses for pay rises and stuff, and also protect you if your employer suddenly fires you..
Still cant believe that $2.13........daaamn. I'd make more than that in 10mins sitting around doing nothing..
Certain places have unions, but most places don't. And unions in general have a pretty bad rap in the US.
Also can't forget that a good portion of paychecks are taken out for taxes. Which especially gets ridiculous when you don't make enough to actually have to pay income taxes. I mean, yeah, I'll get it all back, but I'd really rather have it NOW.
Originally posted by Mišt
Holy shit if you worked full time 5 days a week you'd get less than $100...Whats your tax rate? I think mine is something like..$10 out of every $100 or so..but they cant take any if you dont make a certain amount...
Yup, which is why you need tips so badly.
I'm not actually sure what the percentage is, but the amount missing out of my checks is about that, maybe a bit more. Though I know the chances of me making $20,000 in a year are completely non-existant, thus I don't have to pay income tax, so I want my damn money back.
Originally posted by Mišt
How much does tipping actually improve your pay rate? Like does it just bring it up to minimum rate standards or do you get extras and so on?
Honestly, I don't know exactly as I haven't worked a job where I needed tips or really got any, though when I worked at the coffee place I'd get tipped on occassion, there was one guy who came in every day, ordered the same thing, and always tipped me a dollar, which was like a 75% tip.
I would say it probably depends on the restaurant and how busy it is and such, I'd imagine that on a busy night you could make some damn good money, but if it's slow not so much. And it also depends on if you get good customers or ones who are assholes.
One thing I've heard, though, and I've seen it to be true, is that it's usually the people who work for low wages that tend to tip the most - because they know what it's like to make so little money.
I have always had a tendancy to tip a bit much, as Jess always loved to point out when we go out to dinner.
Originally posted by Mišt
Holy shit if you worked full time 5 days a week you'd get less than $100...Whats your tax rate? I think mine is something like..$10 out of every $100 or so..but they cant take any if you dont make a certain amount...
Originally posted by PandoraMomo
agreed.
My only problem with some people is that some dont think about tipping, even when they get good service. I'm just poining out that, when deserved, tipping can be a great thing that is greatly appreciated.
I agree. Tipping is a good thing. Makes you all feel good in your tummy too.