Uru vs. Admantium

Originally posted by leonidas

are you blind or something? seriously, is that it?? it would explain things. you don't see the power trailing the swing, the bog FLASH at the point of contact . . . [blah blah]

hey Flash got a trail when he runs, get that makes him more durable too 😱

yes. yes you are . . .

nothing else is worth commenting on. go make some muffins in your easy bake oven, read some captain america and go to sleep. maybe it'll all make sense to you when you wake up. [/B]

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
yeah but not cut (they scratch 1 substence with another when they compare hardness on moh scale)

The Mohs scale does not encompass every aspect of durability, and is even considered to be unwieldy by the scientific community. Being hard and brittle is possible. Look at glass.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

oh...link? (unless its alloy with somethin else lol)
they use lasers to cut diamond

Google is your friend.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

yeah and a punch from Hulk 😐

Dented, not shattered or destroyed. Very different concepts.

Originally posted by Ouallada
The Mohs scale does not encompass every aspect of durability, and is even considered to be unwieldy by the scientific community. Being hard and brittle is possible. Look at glass.

Google is your friend.

Dented, not shattered or destroyed. Very different concepts.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
yeah well then same queston i ask b4, if glass ball & iron ball colide @ super duper hi-speed, which of the 2 gonna be broken??

You're missing the point. Glass IS harder than non-reinforced steel. Does not mean it does not shatter more easily.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

k so from what they say it depend on angle, bronze or steel can cut thru diamond at certain angle or somethin cuz diamond aint that hard at those angles

Correct. I repeat. An item does not need to be harder to damage another item.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

not dented - cracked. u cant slip thru a dent can u 😐 hulk made 1 crack in the armor & that bee-chick wuz able to slip thru. only a small crack but its still broken & Hulk wasnt even that pissed

Same difference in the grand scheme of a point. A hairline fracture isn't the same as adamantium shattering, and neither is a dent nor a scratch. Primary adamantium has still never been physically shattered save by cosmic powers.

Originally posted by Ouallada
You're missing the point. Glass IS harder than non-reinforced steel. Does not mean it does not shatter more easily.

w/e

Correct. I repeat. An item does not need to be harder to damage another item.

Same difference in the grand scheme of a point. A hairline fracture isn't the same as adamantium shattering, and neither is a dent nor a scratch. Primary adamantium has still never been physically shattered save by cosmic powers.

so ima keep this version if u dont mind:

Originally posted by Ouallada
In any case, true adamantium has NEVER been physically broken by anything less than universal threats.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
yeah but who cares bout that kinda "hardness" wtf glass cant even scratch steel anyways
if its another word u want then lets say its "tough", so thors hammer tougher > adamantium

w/e

No one does, except you, it seems -- you brought up the Mohs scale. Point Leo and I were making is that harder materials can be damaged by softer materials.

I'm not looking for a different word. I'm looking for either a reasonable counterpoint to the point we were making or a concession. Frankly, I don't expect the former.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

with yur exemple it only mean diamond is less hard at certain angles then the metal
thats what they say anyway:
http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5195356_can-steel-blades-cut-diamond.html
("hardness varies"😉

So? Being able to be damaged by a softer material is still being able to be damaged by a softer material.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
lol whys it "shatter" now. whats next "pulverize"? lol
adamantiums been broken by non-cosmic force (WAY less then non-comic force)

From dictionary.com:

2. reduced to fragments; fragmented.

From MSN Encarta:

1. no longer whole: in two or more pieces, e.g. after having been dropped or struck with something hard

From Webster's:

1: violently separated into parts : SHATTERED

Need more? Using the word "shatter" better ensures that you get my point. God knows you need said help.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
so ima keep this version if u dont mind:and...not true 💃 good n8 😄

Go ahead. Makes no difference to me.

Originally posted by Ouallada
No one does, except you, it seems -- you brought up the Mohs scale. Point Leo and I were making is that harder materials can be damaged by softer materials.

I'm not looking for a different word. I'm looking for either a reasonable counterpoint to the point we were making or a concession. Frankly, I don't expect the former.

From dictionary.com:

From MSN Encarta:

From Webster's:

Need more? Using the word "shatter" better ensures that you get my point. God knows you need said help.

Go ahead. Makes no difference to me.

Originally posted by Ouallada
true adamantium has NEVER been physically broken by anything less than universal threats.

ey btw hammers never been liquifeid or disintagrated not even cosmic force! so there! 😄

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

ey btw hammers never been liquifeid or disintagrated not even cosmic force! so there! 😄

molecule man disintegrated the hammer. 😐

( doh why am i bothering . . .? )

Originally posted by leonidas
molecule man disintegrated the hammer. 😐

( doh why am i bothering . . .? )

btw since u insisted on teh "shatter" part, Caps sheild is harder & its been shatter by less then cosmic (Thanos w/power gem)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
lol i knew some1 wuz gonna mention dat. yaeh he did same thing to Caps sheild & Surfers board btw
Molecule Man the guy who can bust a billions o universes with 1 blast, hes right up there with Beyonder
thats kinda way beyond cosmic aint it lol
better then Magneto anyways 💃

btw since u insisted on teh "shatter" part, Caps sheild is harder & its been shatter by less then cosmic (Thanos w/power gem)

i don't know what you're going on about with the shatter thing, but mephisto MELTED thor's hammer. he've never done that to the shield. 😉

and magneto controlled the flight of the shield.
and magneto controlled the flight of the hammer.

he did EXACTLY the same thing to both. 😐

Originally posted by leonidas
i don't know what you're going on about with the shatter thing, but mephisto MELTED thor's hammer. he've never done that to the shield. 😉

and magneto controlled the flight of the shield.
and magneto controlled the flight of the hammer.

he did EXACTLY the same thing to both. 😐

oh, and ss and thor have BOTH overpowered mephisto in hell, btw. thor and ss>>>"cosmics" now? 😂

nwoot

Originally posted by leonidas
i don't know what you're going on about with the shatter thing, but mephisto MELTED thor's hammer. he've never done that to the shield. 😉

and magneto controlled the flight of the shield.
and magneto controlled the flight of the hammer.

he did EXACTLY the same thing to both. 😐

what mephisto did to hammer RKT can do same thing to sheild & he can do it without even touchin it (mephisto catch it to melt it & he wuz ON HIS OWN TURF btw. RKT < Mephisto on his turf)
Mephisto dint do it to sheild uh maybe cuz he never had teh chance? 😐

Originally posted by leonidas
oh, and ss and thor have BOTH overpowered mephisto in hell, btw. thor and ss>>>"cosmics" now? 😂

nwoot

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
k but magneto liquify adamantium & he dint do squat to hammer (cept move it 😂 )

he didn't liquify adamantium, but he did extract it from logan. but he's never done that to the shield. 😉

what mephisto did to hammer RKT can do same thing to sheild & he can do it without even touchin it (mephisto catch it to melt it & he wuz ON HIS OWN TURF btw. RKT < Mephisto on his turf)
Mephisto dint do it to sheild uh maybe cuz he never had teh chance? 😐

sure mephisto had a chance. he faced cap on a number of occasions. and RKT>mephisto, even in hell. and yes, i'm sure RKT COULD destroy the shield if he wanted to. so what . . .? 😕

mephisto is NOT all-powerful in hell. he lost to surfer, thor and warlock! IN hell.

you keep saying all these things never destroyed the hammer but we now have a rather lengthy list of things that HAVE destroyed the hammer, but next to NOTHING that has destroyed the shield OR primary adamantium. you keep losing, but keep insisting otherwise. i applaud your persistence, but it really is pointless at this point.

as proven by feats, shield>adamantium>hammer.

again.

nope nope Mephisto ommipotent in his own ralm very strong thats why his magic > thors hammer. that suit me 😛

😂

mephisto is afraid of odin. hell, he's even afraid of THANOS! he's been beaten in hell several times, so no, he most certainly is NOT omnipotent. 😂

but i know you'll keep trying, and you'll keep losing. i'm sure someone out there is getting some amusement out of following this "discussion".

Originally posted by leonidas
he didn't liquify adamantium, but he did extract it from logan. but he's never done that to the shield. 😉

sure mephisto had a chance. he faced cap on a number of occasions.

and RKT>mephisto

mephisto is NOT all-powerful in hell. he lost to surfer, thor and warlock! IN hell.

you keep saying all these things never destroyed the hammer but we now have a rather lengthy list of things that HAVE destroyed the hammer,

but next to NOTHING that has destroyed the shield OR primary adamantium.

you keep losing, but keep insisting otherwise. i applaud your persistence, but it really is pointless at this point.

as proven by feats, shield>adamantium>hammer.

mephisto is afraid of odin. hell, he's even afraid of THANOS! he's been beaten in hell several times, so no, he most certainly is NOT omnipotent. 😂

yeah and Thanos stalemate Galactus and a robot beat MJJ whos omniversel threat so what. u sayin there aint no such thing as PIS?

but u know I'll keep trying, and I'll keep losing.

i'm sure someone out there is getting some amusement out of following this "discussion".

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
it was all liquid when he rip it out o wolvie and hes only a mutant lol. far cry from RKT or mephisto
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8247/pwn3d.jpg
dat look solid to you? 😂

you saying he turned the metal liquid? 😂

duh so did he catch caps sheild did he even try o guess wut HE DIDNT
not in mephistos turf (my turn: remeber kmc rules : no PIS aloud! 😄)
so what he also stalemate Galactus outside hell are u sayin Surfer & Thor < galactus? lol

pis? mephisto is FULL of crummy showings AND good ones. and thor also chased galactus away so yeah, thor>hungry galactus. 🙂

yeah cosmic things like devil in hell or MM or skyfather lvl
cept a class 4 mutant & a punch from hulk

mags CONTROLS metals. oh, and about mags being able to melt the hammer's metal, here:

duh so did MAG'S TRY TO "MELT" THOR'S HAMMER did he even try o guess wut HE DIDNT

as for hulk--where did hulk damage pure adamantium again?

d00d cheatins not winning 😄 sure thing if u ignore all good examples then u gonna "win" heck yeah haha
sure and hammer = sucky legendary unique waepon & asgard "gods" = vilage witch **** yeah that sure what writers wanted LOLOL 😂
every1s afraid o Thanos 😄 (u gonna make them Thanos fans here not happy lol)

i can barely understand that grammatical nightmare. i love how you go on about how things are legendary and so they should be better just because of that. brilliant reasoning. sound logic. 🙄

yeah and Thanos stalemate Galactus and a robot beat MJJ whos omniversel threat so what. u sayin there aint no such thing as PIS?
fixed 💃

ahhhhh, at last--the ultimate defense of the beaten. PIS. the only reason someone cries PIS is because they have no reply. why no reply? because they lost the debate. about 100 times, 5 pages ago in this case. but PIS makes the loss official. well done. i accept your defeat and will now bow out of this thread permanently. my thanks for an . . . entertaining discussion. 😉

Originally posted by leonidas
thor>hungry galactus. 🙂

mags CONTROLS metals. oh, and about mags being able to melt the hammer's metal, here:

duh so did MAG'S TRY TO "MELT" THOR'S HAMMER did he even try o guess wut HE DIDNT

as for hulk--where did hulk damage pure adamantium again?

i love how you go on about how things are legendary and so they should be better just because of that. brilliant reasoning. sound logic. 🙄

ahhhhh, at last--the ultimate defense of the beaten. PIS. the only reason someone cries PIS is because they have no reply. why no reply? because they lost the debate. about 100 times, 5 pages ago in this case. but PIS makes the loss official. well done. i accept your defeat and will now bow out of this thread permanently. my thanks for an . . . entertaining discussion.

i can barely understand that grammatical nightmare.

sheesh dont pretend u dont understand cuz u know, your the only one who complain. what is this, Oxford forum or somethin? 🙄 (you brit? lol)
u know what,im actually makin effort, usually im more concise (SMS powaaaa 😄)

i accept your defeat and will now bow out of this thread permanently. my thanks for an . . . entertaining discussion. 😉

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
k so now your sayin adamantium has a weakness or somethin? panel? 😕

Nope. Read what I said properly. Self-explanatory.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

uh point? point is hammer is harder then ykw and u havent even coutered that

Point is there are different aspects to durability, which you insisted on by bringing up the hardness scale. Being higher on one aspect does not mean that an object's durability is definitely higher than another's. Comprende?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

u sure dont need help 4 cheatin lol
makes all teh difrence=>wrong 💃

Sure. Prove those sources wrong. Good luck trying.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

ey btw hammers never been liquifeid or disintagrated not even cosmic force! so there! 😄

Molecule Man, Perrikus, Destroyer, Frost Giants' hammers, battle against Exitar all say otherwise. Mjolnir has been sundered and destroyed far more than primary adamantium.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Nope. Read what I said properly. Self-explanatory.
Point is there are different aspects to durability, which you insisted on by bringing up the hardness scale. Being higher on one aspect does not mean that an object's durability is definitely higher than another's. Comprende?

Sure. Prove those sources wrong. Good luck trying.

Molecule Man, Perrikus, Destroyer, Frost Giants' hammers, battle against Exitar all say otherwise. Mjolnir has been sundered and destroyed far more than primary adamantium. [/B]

Hercules hammer never been damage ever ever

sigh . . . not sure why i'd expect anything different, but that's wrong too . . .

thor's hammer has been BROKEN several times. adamantium has been slightly DENTED twice. which is more impressive? AND ultron survived a blast from galactus. but he's probably not a cosmic . . . 🙄

Originally posted by leonidas
sigh . . . not sure why i'd expect anything different, but that's wrong too . . .

thor's hammer has been BROKEN several times. adamantium has been slightly DENTED twice. which is more impressive? AND ultron survived a blast from galactus. but he's probably not a cosmic . . . 🙄

What blast from Galactus, are you referring to the secret wars one?