Originally posted by leonidas
😐like i said, take it up with the people who make the rules of the KMC.
Don't have to it was clear that future Thor merged with current version616. So feats stand unless you get a mod to say else wise
obviously, but neither is he magical.
MM is beyond must abstract beings so you rright he is greater then magic and if iam not mistaken his orgiins were on a cosmis level as see when the beyonder and him combine into a cosmic cube.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
when both are solid (rigid ) then yeah u do. how dyou think they test hardness (cf Moh scale o hardness)
Diamonds can be broken by far less than another diamond. Hardness isn't all-encompassing when it comes to durability. Bronze saws, for instance, are used in diamond sawing.
Originally posted by SoulDevourernope
I will admit that I cannot recall if Loki placed any enchantments on the giants' hammers. As far as I recall, he was only looking for the forge. In any case, true adamantium has NEVER been physically broken by anything less than universal threats. While it isn't a perfect comparison, it alludes to how durable adamantium is. Denting =/= breaking.
Originally posted by SoulDevoureryeah but imo every1 agree that adamantium > plain uru so no contest there 🙂
No problem.
Originally posted by SoulDevourerhey i swear man, PIS exists in comics! true! 😄
Yup. Comic book science exists in comics too.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
rofl u gotta be kiddin the blue things somethin else & Thor aint even lookin at it 😂
the cylinders as thick as a pen or somethin
even marvel handbook say "small cylinder" so there
doh
believe what you'd like. at this point it clearly doesn't matter what anyone says.
uh no it only mean the hammers been thru a LOT more. basicaly its been tested more then the other things (no kiddin its a waepon) so obvously it got damage more often. its a statistic thing, simple
of course. a statistics thing. cuz cap's shield hasn't been through anything. 😐
btw whats the point in havin a hammer thats a unique waepon when theres a substance that earth can mass-produce that woud be harder then the hammer, lol kinda takes away the point in havin that hammer in the 1st place does it
dear gawd . . .
stop talking about the gods in a COMIC BOOK WORLD, like they should automatically be greater than the HUMANS IN A COMIC BOOK WORLD just because YOU think so. 60yrs of comics outweighs what you THINK things should be like. do you even know anything at all about the shield, or adamantium?
regardless, i'm done with discussing this with you. you're giving me an aneurysm.
Originally posted by Oualladayeah but not cut (they scratch 1 substence with another when they compare hardness on moh scale)
Diamonds can be broken by far less than another diamond.
Bronze saws, for instance, are used in diamond sawing.oh...link? (unless its alloy with somethin else lol)
In any case, true adamantium has NEVER been physically broken by anything less than universal threats.yeah and a punch from Hulk 😐
Originally posted by leonidasnot as much as Thors hammer
doh
of course. a statistics thing. cuz cap's shield hasn't been through anything. 😐
the only real test wuz when they went 1 on 1, and then only the sheild got damage (instead of hammer, or both hammer and sheild)
this aint even about the gods its about the hammer. its suppose to be unique legendry weapon yet your sayin it aint even as tough as substence thats mass produced. kinda takes away from the "legendray" factor dont it lol
dear gawd . . .stop talking about the gods in a COMIC BOOK WORLD, like they should automatically be greater than the HUMANS IN A COMIC BOOK WORLD just because YOU think so. 60yrs of comics outweighs what you THINK things should be like. do you even know anything at all about the shield, or adamantium?
regardless, i'm done with discussing this with you. you're giving me an aneurysm.wut...
all i coud find:
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6016/31064219.jpg
no small dent either
btw Thors suppose to have pounded it out after that!! thats even more ofa feat IMO (unless he didnt pound it out but use magic instead, tbh dont remeber but i think he fixed it with his hammer. iirc its a Avengers crossover or somethin)
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
all i coud find:http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6016/31064219.jpg
no small dent either
btw Thors suppose to have pounded it out after that!! thats even more ofa feat IMO (unless he didnt pound it out but use magic instead, tbh dont remeber but i think he fixed it with his hammer. iirc its a Avengers crossover or somethin)
but do we know for sure that blow wasn't backed by the odinforce?
Originally posted by leonidasit prolly was backed by odinforce 🙂 (in fact i think Thor told Stark the odinforce wuz unlimited when Stark ask him how he did it, not sure tho)
but do we know for sure that blow wasn't backed by the odinforce?
unlikely Thor coud do it only with his lvl of strenght. hed need the power gem or somethin like that
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
it probably was backed by odinforce 🙂 (in fact i think Thor told Stark the odinforce wuz unlimited when Stark ask him how he did it, not sure tho)unlikely Thor coud do it only with his lvl of strenght
it WAS backed by the odinforce! so of couse he could dent it! yet again, that proves nothing.
seriously. i'm done now. seriously.
Originally posted by leonidasum thats irelevent
it WAS backed by the odinforce! so of couse he could dent it! yet again, that proves nothing.seriously. i'm done now. seriously.
ok ima try again:
suppose you throw GLASS ball at IRON wall at REALY HIGH speed (like 100000mph. I dunno, Speedforce ^^), u think the ball gonna be intact after impact? lol
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
um thats irelevent
odinforce dont make the hammer more durable
that's actually completely wrong. we've seen unenchanted uru--it's not much. thor can use his HAND to carve it. it's the enchantment that GIVES the hammer durability. ADD enchantment (ala thor's belt vs exitar) add power, add durability. thor had the odinforce backing him up, the odinforce was SURROUNDING THE HAMMER when he struck! you think that means nothing?? i know you're a kid, but c'mon already . . .
and for like the 1000th time--JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING DAMAGES SOMETHING DOES NOT MEAN IT IS HARDER.
you just . . . don't get that, do you. 🙁
ok ima try again:
suppose you throw GLASS ball at IRON wall at REALY HIGH speed (like 100000mph. I dunno, Speedforce ^^), u think the ball gonna be intact after impact? lol
your analogy is retarded. a millimeter thick stream of water under enough pressure can cut steel.
water harder than steel?
good lord . . .
Originally posted by leonidasyeah and your not suppose to be a kid but you cant understand this : THERES DIFFRENT TYPES OF ENCHANTMENT (gee that aint news isit)
that's actually completely wrong. we've seen unenchanted uru--it's not much. thor can use his HAND to carve it. it's the enchantment that GIVES the hammer durability. ADD enchantment (ala thor's belt vs exitar) add power, add durability. thor had the odinforce backing him up, the odinforce was SURROUNDING THE HAMMER when he struck! you think that means nothing?? i know you're a kid, but c'mon already . . .
odinforce "surround the hammer"? lol 😂 why aint it permanent then? why aint it part of the hammers enchatments?
hammers own magic makes it harder (and other things), odinforce is somethin else aint got nothin to do with xtra durablity, again your just speculatin. 4 all we know odinforce only make the hammer go a lot faster, so bigger impact on the sheild
what about godblast then? when Thor use it against Exitar and the hammer blow up...? why dint the godblast magic make the hammer harder instead hmm? 🙄
and for like the 1000th time--JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING DAMAGES SOMETHING DOES NOT MEAN IT IS HARDER.when 2 similar size solids collide & only one get damage then yeah it doesyou just . . . don't get that, do you. 🙁
your analogy is retarded. a millimeter thick stream of water under enough pressure can cut steel.and your anal-ogy is bullshit, since when is water solid? were talkin about solid rigid substence not liquid vs solid or somethinwater harder than steel?
good lord . . .
here, i'll make it simple:
without the odinforce has thor ever dented the shield?
no.
with the odinforce has thor dented the shield?
(say it with me . . .) yes.
is mjolnir harder than uroc?
yes.
which one has stronger enchantment, uroc or mjolnir?
c'mon you can get that one yourself . . . right?
now, give thor the odinforce with which to back mjolnir up . . .
and he can amazingly dent the shield! 😱
you think with the odinpower he couldn't make mjolnir even STRONGER?? you must be joking . . . i HOPE you're joking . . .
you said when 2 things meet the softer one breaks or is damaged. water is softer than steel. a thin plastic straw can be driven through a thick tree. wood can damage iron. etc . . .
you can keep repeating whatever you'd like of course, it just . . . doesn't make you look too good . . .
Originally posted by leonidashere ima make it simpler:
here, i'll make it simple:without the odinforce has thor ever dented the shield?
no.
with the odinforce has thor dented the shield?
(say it with me . . .) yes.
THEREFORE odinforce made hammer go faster (stronger throw. get it?)
is mjolnir harder than uroc?eeeeey at least we can agree on that part 😄yes.
which one has stronger enchantment, uroc or mjolnir?mjolnir but thats what ive been tyrin to explain 2 u :/c'mon you can get that one yourself . . . right?
now, give thor the odinforce with which to back mjolnir up . . .oh wait...wheres the odinforce "surroundin" the hammer like u said?and he can amazingly dent the shield! 😱
you think with the odinpower he couldn't make mjolnir even STRONGER?? you must be joking . . . i HOPE you're joking . . .it makes himself stronger. its HIS power. simple aint it?
u think hulks fist was backed by some force when he cracked ultron armor?
you said when 2 things meet the softer one breaks or is damaged. water is softer than steel. a thin plastic straw can be driven through a thick tree. wood can damage iron. etc . . .apple orange & all that 😄you can keep repeating whatever you'd like of course, it just . . . doesn't make you look too good . . .
hey u dint even answer this previous question :
if glass ball & iron ball collide, which of the 2 gonna get damaged? 💃
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
here ima make it simpler:THEREFORE odinforce made hammer go faster (stronger throw. get it?)
really, nothing more need be said.
oh wait...wheres the odinforce "surroundin" the hammer like u said?
woot? no lightning around hammer? no forcefield or somethin? not single sfx? 😱
are you blind or something? seriously, is that it?? it would explain things. you don't see the power trailing the swing, the bog FLASH at the point of contact . . . you have one of those cool brail keyboards, or is it one of those voice activated jobs where you just talk and it types the words automatically.
simple aint it?
yes. yes you are . . .
nothing else is worth commenting on. go make some muffins in your easy bake oven, read some captain america and go to sleep. maybe it'll all make sense to you when you wake up.
