Originally posted by h1a8How can't he?
No he didn't. Thanos can't attack with shields up.Superman can easily break through them with multiple blows.
A lvl doesn't determine when one should or shouldn't blitz. Superman could have blitz someone under Thanos lvl.Thanos has been hit many times and at his best hasn't proven to react to Superman level speed. Even if we lie and say so then Superman can attack multiple times at multiple angles. Stopping 1 attack is not the same as stopping many from different angles.
Care to prove it? All you do is making claim after claim you cannot prove. Horrible debating tactic.
Originally posted by h1a8Care to prove they weren't moving at top speed?
Dealing with people who aren't using their top speed is not the same as dealing with people who are using their top speed. See the difference?Thanos never dealt with Superman level speed before. Sure he dealt with fast beings, but those beings weren't using their top speed. Superman can evade or vibrate through all Thanos attacks. He can instantly counter a Thanos blast or punch by appearing behind Thanos and comboing him silly.
Superman can't also fight at top speed either.
Originally posted by h1a8Prove it.
Assuming Thanos can get them up in time then
After many strikes the shield will crumble. Thanos can't attack with shields on and thus needs to remove then to attack. Once Thanos does this it will be his doom.
Originally posted by h1a8Thanos wanted him to gather enough strength to destroy the planet. That was his plan the entire time. he played with him prior to mocking his battle skills while easily having his way with him. Then he cut him off with a shield to piss him off to destroy the planet so he'd be helpless and at Thanos' mercy.
Champion was crumbling Thanos shields using less than planet destroying force. The moment he used planet destroying force Thanos had teleported away.I didn't say Superman will crumble Thanos shields. I said that after MANY blows he will. Show me Thanos using a omniblast.
Originally posted by h1a8h right because he saw a space mosquito??????????????
It is speculation that he moved his hand to avoid Surfer. The narrator said SS missed. Plus you see SS coming at Thanos through his eyes. Now you are making stuff up saying that Thanos sensed him when the scan clearly showed that Surfer was coming. Also Thanos being was altered and amped with the exception of future seeing. So any feats with that Thanos is invalid.
He missed because Thanos moved his hand. You cannot even interpret the comics or the message the writer is trying to convey. Wow.
Originally posted by h1a8You are leaving out the context behind this feat. You are pulling a starking.
It was stated that he can. Also we have Superman shattering a planet in his fight with Zod with just the shockwaves. He didn't even touch the planet.Also we have Superman moving planets and structures bigger than the Earth Moon system. It takes more force to move a planet significantly than to destroy it. If X>A and A>B then X>B.
Also Superman can IMP.
Originally posted by h1a8
Oh I missed it. My fault.F=GMm/r^2 where r is the distance away from the center. That means doubling the distance away fourths the Force. Pick a flower and you will affect the furthest star. This is the universal law of gravity. If one has a acceleration of .0000001m/s^2 then it is only a matter of time before they reach a phenomenal speed. Thanos hits Marvel at least hundreds of thousands of miles above Saturn's suface. They are near the moons which is outside the roche limit. You even see Saturn as a ball proving that it is far away. Marvel didn't weight 1 pound where he was.
Actually doing some research Saturn has a smaller gravitational pull than Earth because its density is so low, look it up yourself or try here www.arcadiastreet.com/cgvistas/saturn_020.htm
Jupiter and mars only help Marvel reached Earth faster since they were between but not directly.
Your wrong. the gravitational pull on the SURFACE is slightly lower than on earth.. about 92%. However, the gravitational pull in space is far greater in Saturn than Earth. Not only is the pull stronger but the area of the gravitional pull is significantly bigger. The reason being is its size and how fast it rotates. That is reason why it has about 30 different moons orbiting it and some as large as earth. THat tell you how powerful it gravitional pull is in space and why so many objects get sucked into it and Jupiter and never make it to the other planets.
Originally posted by shokosugiThat wasn't Thanos using the best of his abilities and her attacks really did nothing significant to Thanos at all.
Gamora's speed is too much for ThanosSupes beating the shit out of DS.
DS >> Thanos
We have given you example after example of what he's capable of and Ds is nowhere near Thanos.
DD, Orion, and Superman have all proven so.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Your wrong. the gravitational pull on the SURFACE is slightly lower than on earth.. about 92%. However, the gravitational pull in space is far greater in Saturn than Earth. Not only is the pull stronger but the area of the gravitional pull is significantly bigger. The reason being is its size and how fast it rotates. That is reason why it has about 30 different moons orbiting it and some as large as earth. THat tell you how powerful it gravitional pull is in space and why so many objects get sucked into it and Jupiter and never make it to the other planets.
The gravity in space is negligible. That means things almost weight nothing. Outside the roche limit Saturn would be pulling a 170lb person less than .1lbs. If you don't believe me try the math problem
F=GMm/r^2 where G is about 6.67E-11 M is Saturn's mass, m is 170/2.2 kg and r is Radius of Saturn plus 750,000 miles (convert to meters). You answer would be in Netwons so convert to lbs. I would do the math but I don't feel like getting my calculator now and you will respect your own answer better than mine. This is how much one would weigh outside of Saturn (how strong the gravitation pull would be).
I don't care if Saturn had the same mass as one of its moons. it will always capture a moon. The radius of orbit would be larger though.
Do you know what force is? Or even acceleration? If a pea is pulling a huge asteroid an acceleration of .000000001m/s^2 then in a matter of years the asteroid will be headed toward the pea at incredible speed. Gravity extends throughout the universe. Earth is even pulling in asteroids.
Originally posted by h1a8
The gravity in space is negligible. That means things almost weight nothing. Outside the roche limit Saturn would be pulling a 170lb person less than .1lbs. If you don't believe me try the math problemF=GMm/r^2 where G is about 6.67E-11 M is Saturn's mass, m is 170/2.2 kg and r is Radius of Saturn plus 750,000 miles (convert to meters). You answer would be in Netwons so convert to lbs. I would do the math but I don't feel like getting my calculator now and you will respect your own answer better than mine. This is how much one would weigh outside of Saturn (how strong the gravitation pull would be).
I don't care if Saturn had the same mass as one of its moons. it will always capture a moon. The radius of orbit would be larger though.
Do you know what force is? Or even acceleration? If a pea is pulling a huge asteroid an acceleration of .000000001m/s^2 then in a matter of years the asteroid will be headed toward the pea at incredible speed. Gravity extends throughout the universe. Earth is even pulling in asteroids.
Of course Earth pulls things towards it… Hence why we even have a moon orbiting our planet. However, it's your claim that Saturn and Jupiter both who have moons LARGER than earth has less gravitational pull than earth? On its surface this is true although only 8% less. However, this isn't true in space. This is why Saturn has over 30 moons orbiting it because its captured them throughout billions of years. So it's your claim that our earth could capture moons and some larger than our own planet and we could have 30 orbiting around us just like Saturn? Come on h1a8 you must be joking me. Their pull and area of pull are nowhere near the same. This is exactly why Saturn and Jupiter have some many moons around them and take so many hits from asteroids. They pull is so strong and so wide it sucks up a lot of debris before it even makes it to use. Although Jupiter has a pull vastly stronger than Saturn even.
All that aside though, this is just another example of how you try and by pass writer and artist intent for your own. Even if you were right.. Do you honestly think the writers were taking into account these mathmatical caculations you spewing in this thread? Isn't there a much easier and logically answer to all this. If one writer shows someone getting hit from Saturn to earth and another from earth to the moon. Which do you think they are logically trying to convey is the stronger more powerful hit? That is a very easy and logic question you should really think about. Even though your wrong about the gravitional pull, even if you are right they aren't taking that into consideration. The writer/artist go.. hmmm lets show Thanos hiting somebody so hard that they fly through space ALL THE WAY from Saturn. That was all they were trying to convey.. not your silly caculations about what people why in space etc etc. Thus… thanos hiting somebody from Saturn to earth (exponentially greater distance) than Earth to the moon we can safely say the Thanos strike was exponentially greater using simple logic and reason.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosino need to respond to that
Of course Earth pulls things towards it… Hence why we even have a moon orbiting our planet. However, it's your claim that Saturn and Jupiter both who have moons LARGER than earth has less gravitational pull than earth? On its surface this is true although only 8% less. However, this isn't true in space. This is why Saturn has over 30 moons orbiting it because its captured them throughout billions of years. So it's your claim that our earth could capture moons and some larger than our own planet and we could have 30 orbiting around us just like Saturn? Come on h1a8 you must be joking me. Their pull and area of pull are nowhere near the same. This is exactly why Saturn and Jupiter have some many moons around them and take so many hits from asteroids. They pull is so strong and so wide it sucks up a lot of debris before it even makes it to use. Although Jupiter has a pull vastly stronger than Saturn even.All that aside though, this is just another example of how you try and by pass writer and artist intent for your own. Even if you were right.. Do you honestly think the writers were taking into account these mathmatical caculations you spewing in this thread? Isn't there a much easier and logically answer to all this. If one writer shows someone getting hit from Saturn to earth and another from earth to the moon. Which do you think they are logically trying to convey is the stronger more powerful hit? That is a very easy and logic question you should really think about. Even though your wrong about the gravitional pull, even if you are right they aren't taking that into consideration. The writer/artist go.. hmmm lets show Thanos hiting somebody so hard that they fly through space ALL THE WAY from Saturn. That was all they were trying to convey.. not your silly caculations about what people why in space etc etc. Thus… thanos hiting somebody from Saturn to earth (exponentially greater distance) than Earth to the moon we can safely say the Thanos strike was exponentially greater using simple logic and reason.
Originally posted by h1a8as you can see this kid NEEDS to apply real world rules to each thread to suffice for not reading the comics in which bending of laws are commonplace.
I know Superman will win if these characters existed
ironically, superman holding a singularity is ignored, but be damned if hulk were to ever do it, we'll never hear the end of it.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThis is all moot. Just calculate it yourself and you will see. Use R=8.6367x10^8m (804672000m + Saturn's radius 59,000,000m) then
Of course Earth pulls things towards it… Hence why we even have a moon orbiting our planet. However, it's your claim that Saturn and Jupiter both who have moons LARGER than earth has less gravitational pull than earth? On its surface this is true although only 8% less. However, this isn't true in space. This is why Saturn has over 30 moons orbiting it because its captured them throughout billions of years. So it's your claim that our earth could capture moons and some larger than our own planet and we could have 30 orbiting around us just like Saturn? Come on h1a8 you must be joking me. Their pull and area of pull are nowhere near the same. This is exactly why Saturn and Jupiter have some many moons around them and take so many hits from asteroids. They pull is so strong and so wide it sucks up a lot of debris before it even makes it to use. Although Jupiter has a pull vastly stronger than Saturn even.
It takes tremendous strength to knock someone from Saturn's roche limit to Earth in reasonable time, more than a million tons. So the writer did a great job of portraying Thanos power. I'm just saying that it takes more force to knock someone in orbit from Earth's surface due to higher gravitational force and that dreaded wind resistance. Again, I'm not downplaying the feat but rather saying that it doesn't prove that Thanos is stronger than say Superman or Thor.
All that aside though, this is just another example of how you try and by pass writer and artist intent for your own. Even if you were right.. Do you honestly think the writers were taking into account these mathmatical caculations you spewing in this thread? Isn't there a much easier and logically answer to all this. If one writer shows someone getting hit from Saturn to earth and another from earth to the moon. Which do you think they are logically trying to convey is the stronger more powerful hit? That is a very easy and logic question you should really think about. Even though your wrong about the gravitional pull, even if you are right they aren't taking that into consideration. The writer/artist go.. hmmm lets show Thanos hiting somebody so hard that they fly through space ALL THE WAY from Saturn. That was all they were trying to convey.. not your silly caculations about what people why in space etc etc. Thus… thanos hiting somebody from Saturn to earth (exponentially greater distance) than Earth to the moon we can safely say the Thanos strike was exponentially greater using simple logic and reason.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
editalso take note, thanos punched mar-vell straight to earth without much path deviation and time lapse( i.e. aging on mar-vell's part)
Aging? The faster one travels the slower they age according to relativity.
But Marvel doesn't take relativity into consideration. I doubt relativity even exists in that universe.
As for path deviation, what if Jupiter and Mars were arranged in such a way that prevented path deviation (or help Marvell stay on path)?
Originally posted by h1a8the first rebuttal proved my point, and the second point is moot due to the speed of the punch that you have so graciously endorsed. 🙂
Aging? The faster one travels the slower they age according to relativity.
But Marvel doesn't take relativity into consideration. I doubt relativity even exists in that universe.As for path deviation, what if Jupiter and Mars were arranged in such a way that prevented path deviation (or help Marvell stay on path)?
pleasure doing business friend.
and you still have to put up or shut up, scans please.
